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More Speed Limits for Bikes

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    #212
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Kav0777 wrote: »
    Well, if you're not in a race, you're not a racing cyclist. You're a cyclist on a racing bike. ;)

    At least we're getting to the crux of the issue now.... :D

    unless it is the race that shall not be mentioned ;)


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    #213
    Kav0777
    Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Kav0777


    Jawgap wrote: »
    unless it is the race that shall not be mentioned ;)

    ssshhhh.... I didn't mention it ... ;)


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    #214
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Kav0777 wrote: »
    Well, if you're not in a race, you're not a racing cyclist. You're a cyclist on a racing bike. ;)

    At least we're getting to the crux of the issue now.... :D
    Jawgap wrote: »
    unless it is the race that shall not be mentioned ;)

    Pedantic point...

    If you use Strava are you not always in a race against yourself and your previous results?


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    #215
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Pedantic point...

    If you use Strava are you not always in a race against yourself and your previous results?

    No.


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    #216
    Lusk_Doyle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Pedantic point...

    If you use Strava are you not always in a race against yourself and your previous results?

    No. It records distance.


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    #217
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Jawgap wrote: »
    No.
    Lusk_Doyle wrote: »
    No. It records distance.
    deandean wrote: »
    Naw the Gardai don't even have to leave their desk. Here are the results for the Clontarf cyclopath. GPS certified, names excluded..... :pac:
    277282.bmp



    Where's that from is it not Strava? Looks like a useful resource


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    #218
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    What's your point?

    I'm on that list - but I can tell you the day I posted the speed recorded there was a feckin' roaring tailwind.

    Are you suggesting Strava becomes admissible in court? I think you're being a bit ridiculous now.

    By the way if you want to see how most people use Strava.................................
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    #219
    Lusk_Doyle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    I think that spook.ie possibly has issues with cyclists due to the fact that he may have regular / have had previous run ins with them as he is a taxi driver.


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    #220
    07Lapierre
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    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Pedantic point...

    If you use Strava are you not always in a race against yourself and your previous results?


    If you drive a Sports car are not always in a race? ... ( No your not)


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    #221
    Kav0777
    Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Kav0777


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    If you drive a Sports car are not always in a race? ... ( No your not)

    a racing motorist?


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    #222
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Jawgap wrote: »
    What's your point?

    I'm on that list - but I can tell you the day I posted the speed recorded there was a feckin' roaring tailwind.

    Are you suggesting Strava becomes admissible in court? I think you're being a bit ridiculous now.

    By the way if you want to see how most people use Strava.................................
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    Just asking, so you can race against yourself using Strava measurements despite your initial denial, so therefore you can be a racing cyclist in a race against your previous times, not looking for anything admissible in court just looking at the fact that some people could ( and indeed appear to ) race.


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    #223
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    If you drive a Sports car are not always in a race? ... ( No your not)
    Kav0777 wrote: »
    a racing motorist?

    Only if you were timing yourself ala Strava or something similar and trying to improve on your times


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    #224
    Kav0777
    Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Kav0777


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Just asking, so you can race against yourself using Strava measurements despite your initial denial, so therefore you can be a racing cyclist in a race against your previous times, not looking for anything admissible in court just looking at the fact that some people could ( and indeed appear to ) race.

    ..and you accuse me of making a pedantic point.


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    #225
    lennymc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


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    #226
    quozl
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    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Only if you were timing yourself ala Strava or something similar and trying to improve on your times

    So you're saying that we need more speed limits for cars drivers using 'strava or something similar'.

    I agree! That Hailo app thing is very similar to Strava with its geolocation services and all. The fact that you get paid based on your performance in it means that it's even more high risk IMO. Click the button within 30seconds or lose the job/money!

    We should start a campaign together, Spook. More speed limits for racing taxi drivers. I'll make the facebook site, can you come up with a catchy slogan?


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    #227
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Pedantic point...

    If you use Strava are you not always in a race against yourself and your previous results?
    Kav0777 wrote: »
    ..and you accuse me of making a pedantic point.

    No I made my own pedantic point


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    #228
    Kav0777
    Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Kav0777


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    No I made my own pedantic point

    You just made another one. ;)


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    #229
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    quozl wrote: »
    So you're saying that we need more speed limits for cars drivers using 'strava or something similar'.

    I agree! That Hailo app thing is very similar to Strava with its geolocation services and all. The fact that you get paid based on your performance in it means that it's even more high risk IMO. Click the button within 30seconds or lose the job/money!

    We should start a campaign together, Spook. More speed limits for racing taxi drivers. I'll make the facebook site, can you come up with a catchy slogan?

    No I don't race. I worked it out a long time ago that all it does is get you to a traffic queue quicker.

    As to Hailo, then it's fastest finger not fastest car


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    #230
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Just asking, so you can race against yourself using Strava measurements despite your initial denial, so therefore you can be a racing cyclist in a race against your previous times, not looking for anything admissible in court just looking at the fact that some people could ( and indeed appear to ) race.

    you could, but why would you?

    I often appear to be racing but rarely am - I'm just trying not to cough up a lung......If I'm moving fast it's usually because the wind is behind me and now there are so many Strava segments it's become a pointless feature of the system because you're effectively always on a segment.

    I will admit using Strava and trying to beat my times on certain selected climbs of which none are in the the vicinity of Clontarf.

    Have you any kind of objective evidence that people are racing themselves and / or each other on the stretch of dedicated cycling track to which the original proposal applies?

    If so post it, if not move along - although in your case the fact we are discussing happenings in the Meadow of the Bull seems appropriate........


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    #231
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Zillah wrote: »
    Step 3 - ???
    Profit!


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    #232
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,634 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    No I don't race. I worked it out a long time ago that all it does is get you to a traffic queue quicker.

    As to Hailo, then it's fastest finger not fastest car

    Yea, course it's not the fastest Taxi who wins! :D :pac:

    http://youtu.be/IWL8IjfsrII?t=4s


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    #233
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Yea, course it's not the fastest Taxi who wins! :D :pac:

    http://youtu.be/IWL8IjfsrII?t=4s

    If someone would care to open up a thread elsewhere and move the relevent posts to it I'll answer it


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    #234
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Zillah wrote: »
    McGrath's update is ridiculous.

    Step 1 - Propose cycling speed limit.
    Step 2 - Publish incoherent list of unreferenced anti-cyclist anecdotes.
    Step 3 - ???

    Shows the level of thinking that has gone into this.
    I don't know, I'm kinda rooting for this couple.
    "Another man just met a lovely old lady who had been knocked down on a footpath in Baggot Street by a hit and run cyclist."


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    #235
    nomdeboardie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    Spare a thought for cyclists in Brisbane's South Bank Parklands :pac:

    http://road.cc/content/news/90431-brisbane-cyclists-complain-10kmph-speed-limit-so-slow-its-dangerous


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    #236
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    nomdeboardie wrote: »
    Spare a thought for cyclists in Brisbane's South Bank Parklands :pac:

    http://road.cc/content/news/90431-brisbane-cyclists-complain-10kmph-speed-limit-so-slow-its-dangerous
    10km/h. Give. Me. Strength.


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    #237
    Seweryn
    Registered Users Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    nomdeboardie wrote: »
    Spare a thought for cyclists in Brisbane's South Bank Parklands :pac:

    http://road.cc/content/news/90431-brisbane-cyclists-complain-10kmph-speed-limit-so-slow-its-dangerous
    I would half ignore anything from Australia. It must be the most anti-cyclist place on Earth with their speed limits and compulsory helmets when cycling 6 mph.


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    #238
    laraghrider
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    So what's going to happen here. The speed limit is put in place and most cyclists move onto the road. Motorists complain that cyclists are not using the cycle lane. A motion is put in to make use of the cycle lane mandatory which kicks up a fuss all over the country as all lanes then become mandatory.

    Cyclists stop cycling as it's too much hassle in the city and the roads go back to 2008 levels of traffic. People moan about the amount of cars on the road and we have to do something to encourage the use of public transport and get people cycling again. Meanwhile the pedestrians who shouldn't be in the cycle lane anyway are happy.


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    #239
    check_six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Seweryn wrote: »
    I would half ignore anything from Australia. It must be the most anti-cyclist place on Earth with their speed limits and compulsory helmets when cycling 6 mph.

    Well, falling off at 10kph would probably keep you within the design limitations of a helmet so maybe they're on to something...

    Why not have a man with a flag to walk in front of every cyclist to warn of his approach? (I hope they don't read boards in Oz!)


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    #240
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,485 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    will they not need a legal basis for any such speed limit? Sure the council can throw up a few signs but without an amendment to the RTA what's the point since it won't make it into the RTAs on the speedo issue?


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    #241
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    will they not need a legal basis for any such speed limit? Sure the council can throw up a few signs but without an amendment to the RTA what's the point since it won't make it into the RTAs on the speedo issue?

    No, they just need to bring in a by-law.

    Incidentally, maybe the proposed limits are MINIMUM rather than MAXIMUM speed limits :pac:


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