I pay taxes for that

LeinsterDub · 02-10-2013 01:44PM #1

http://www.publicpolicy.ie/where-does-your-tax-go

Was surprised (for some reason) the debt was the 3 group of items and biggest single item.

Anything else surprise you?

Wacker The Attacker · 02-10-2013 01:46PM

Its all like tax and sh1t

Shenshen · 02-10-2013 01:49PM

The fact that within "Social Programs", the biggest chunk goes to - wait for it - no, not welfare and benefits, but pensions. :eek:

stevenmu · 02-10-2013 01:49PM

That's a pretty cool site.

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Was surprised (for some reason) the debt was the 3 group of items and biggest single item.

The debt shows up 4th for me, behind Social, Health and Education. What's really worth noting is that the bank bailout is only 23% of the debt.

vitani · 02-10-2013 01:52PM

Over €450 to debt repayments. Only 35c to libraries, 31c to the Fire Service and 7c to the Secret Service...

...we have a Secret Service?

Kylo Ren · 02-10-2013 01:53PM

What if you earn more than €150,000?

02-10-2013 01:54PM

Shenshen wrote: »

The fact that within "Social Programs", the biggest chunk goes to - wait for it - no, not welfare and benefits, but pensions. :eek:

Pyramid scheme go!

vitani wrote: »

Over €450 to debt repayments. Only 35c to libraries, 31c to the Fire Service and 7c to the Secret Service...

...we have a Secret Service?

It's REALLY effective

Jonny Blaze · 02-10-2013 01:59PM

Sssshhhhh.... It's a secret!

vitani wrote: »

Over €450 to debt repayments. Only 35c to libraries, 31c to the Fire Service and 7c to the Secret Service...

...we have a Secret Service?

Owen_S · 02-10-2013 02:00PM

Keno wrote: »

What if you earn more than €150,000?

Then you can afford a good accountant and this all become irrelevant.

Filibuster · 02-10-2013 02:00PM

vitani wrote: »

Over €450 to debt repayments. Only 35c to libraries, 31c to the Fire Service and 7c to the Secret Service...

...we have a Secret Service?

Haha I know how much you earn now!!

Banjo String · 02-10-2013 02:08PM

No coke and hookers on that list

Current govt either shrewd or slow.

Kylo Ren · 02-10-2013 02:10PM

Owen_S wrote: »

Then you can afford a good accountant and this all become irrelevant.

What if you're an accountant and earn more than €150,000?

spank_inferno · 02-10-2013 02:13PM

Pensioners vote.

So they have always been insulated from cuts.

Just 1/4 of the social welfare budget is dole

overshoot · 02-10-2013 02:26PM

Banjo String wrote: »

No coke and hookers on that list

Current govt either shrewd or slow.

secret service(ing of officials)?

Tabnabs · 02-10-2013 02:32PM

So many areas that should be cut out. A fascinating insight into how our hard earned money is squandered. Why do I feel like I'm being pick-pocketed...

Jester252 · 02-10-2013 02:34PM

Well this slider is one way to shut up the tax the rich guys. Just look at the % difference of rate of tax between 11,000 and 150,000 and at the end of the day your still the same people using the services.

Uriel. · 02-10-2013 02:36PM

Great little site for sure.

I was surprised that so little goes to the Environment actually. Although maybe there is more money under Polluter Pays etc...
However....

damn Centenarian's taking almost €0.50 for their bounty.... Let's get 'em!!!!

EDIT: Who is behind the site and are the calculations trust worthy and/or accurate

seanie_c · 02-10-2013 02:36PM

I left my job because of tax I was paying and not really seeing any benefit.
Now I'm on the dole and plan to take full advantage of the system.

Not one bit ashamed either, Ireland is a fcking joke and it doesn't reward hard work what so ever. I realized in short time it rewards useless bastards.

The harder you work, apparently you're an idiot...who'd have thunk it?
It's run by the rich for the rich, always was.

I fully expect FF to get back into office next election and what difference does it make anyway? FF, FG...all the same, clean useless.

What grinds my teeth are these chimpanzees on the radio shows crying about politicians breaking promises....waken up morons, politicians are professional liars -- All of them.

But they still go vote for them in an election. Gimps.

Uriel. · 02-10-2013 02:38PM

seanie_c wrote: »

I left my job because of tax I was paying and not really seeing any benefit.
Now I'm on the dole and plan to take full advantage of the system.

Not one bit ashamed either, Ireland is a fcking joke and it doesn't reward hard work what so ever. I realized in short time it rewards useless bastards.

The harder you work, apparently you're an idiot...who'd have thunk it?
It's run by the rich for the rich, always was.

I fully expect FF to get back into office next election and what difference does it make anyway? FF, FG...all the same, clean useless.

What grinds my teeth are these chimpanzees on the radio shows crying about politicians breaking promises....waken up morons, politicians are professional liars -- All of them.

But they still go vote for them in an election. Gimps.

I like your trolling

seanie_c · 02-10-2013 02:39PM

Uriel. wrote: »

I like your trolling

I'm deadly serious.

I'm not working another fcking day in Ireland unless it's in the government.

I can assure you, I'm not joking.

Matter of fact, I might just get involved in crime seeing as nothing happens to criminals in this country anyway..want examples? :rolleyes:

cson · 02-10-2013 02:43PM

€300 of it goes to the Dole for me. As opposed to €183 for illness/carers/disability.

Something's out of whack there.

Uriel. · 02-10-2013 02:43PM

seanie_c wrote: »

I'm deadly serious.

I'm not working another fcking day in Ireland unless it's in the government.

I can assure you, I'm not joking.

Matter of fact, I might just get involved in crime seeing as nothing happens to criminals in this country anyway..want examples? :rolleyes:

no thanks

shruikan2553 · 02-10-2013 02:43PM

67,131 euro in taxes if you earn 150k. It's amazing that the more you earn the less likely you are to use these services and yet you pay even more.

folan · 02-10-2013 02:46PM

not surprised at pensions being so high. would have thought that people were aware that its a major area of expenditure.

also fully expect it to be slashed by the time i get to that age, which is why i have a pension fund now.

folan · 02-10-2013 02:46PM

shruikan2553 wrote: »

67,131 euro in taxes if you earn 150k. It's amazing that the more you earn the less likely you are to use these services and yet you pay even more.

socialism

cson · 02-10-2013 02:51PM

shruikan2553 wrote: »

67,131 euro in taxes if you earn 150k. It's amazing that the more you earn the less likely you are to use these services and yet you pay even more.

Not that amazing. Its a standard redistribution of wealth that occurs in nearly every quasi-socialist democratic state in the World.

Look at the Government tab and prepare to have your eyes water at how much of your tax goes to Civil Service pensions compared to the other Government agencies in the tab.

There are either a **** load of Civil Service pensioners or, more likely, we're funding a fairly jet set lifestyle for a certain number of ex Civil Servants who got out when the time was right.

Probably the most corrupt and injust society this side of Russia we've got going on here.

crockholm · 02-10-2013 02:52PM

Personally,given the chance,I would juxtapose the heritage and overseas aid payments.

dxhound2005 · 02-10-2013 02:57PM

seanie_c wrote: »

I left my job because of tax I was paying and not really seeing any benefit.
Now I'm on the dole and plan to take full advantage of the system.

Not one bit ashamed either, Ireland is a fcking joke and it doesn't reward hard work what so ever. I realized in short time it rewards useless bastards.

The harder you work, apparently you're an idiot...who'd have thunk it?
It's run by the rich for the rich, always was.

I fully expect FF to get back into office next election and what difference does it make anyway? FF, FG...all the same, clean useless.

What grinds my teeth are these chimpanzees on the radio shows crying about politicians breaking promises....waken up morons, politicians are professional liars -- All of them.

But they still go vote for them in an election. Gimps.

How long had you to wait to qualify for the dole? Can you intentionally make yourself unemployed and get dole straight away? If you can the country is indeed a joke.

seanie_c · 02-10-2013 03:00PM

Uriel. wrote: »

no thanks

That wasn't a genuine offer....sarcasm.

There's an old Chinese proverb that exemplifies the failure of leadership in Ireland today and one that applies reasonably well to old Bertie Ahern and his mentor/crony, Charlie Haughey.

"A Fish rots from the head down."

seanie_c · 02-10-2013 03:03PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

How long had you to wait to qualify for the dole? Can you intentionally make yourself unemployed and get dole straight away? If you can the country is indeed a joke.

I'm not willing to divulge how I can work the system but I didn't have to wait.
I just observe what other people do. Ireland will be consumed by crime because it's fostered a welfare system that's completely unsustainable.

I have no long term plans to remain in the country but If I did get a cushy number with the government, I'd obviously stay.

TheBandicoot · 02-10-2013 03:04PM

Is there any source for the data used or any evidence at all that is accurate and not biased?

I pay taxes for that

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