SYRIA WAR MEGATHREAD - Mod Note First Post

Nodin wrote: »

No, you'll find that isn't what happened at all. Why do you think you can lie when your remarks are here on thread?

You were very subtle with your comment but I think it's obvious what you meant.

seanie_c wrote:

Now, we see the so-called "evidence" of Syrian government using chemical weapons against Syrian civilians came from The Mossad..

The evidence did come from Mossad, but making such a statement could only mean I hate Jews in Nodin's little world of fantasy.

This is the same Mossad that provided the evidence for America to go to war with Iraq but...let's not dwell on past errors, let's just go ahead and bomb more Arab countries for Israel.

Nodin wrote:

You're beginning to walk and quack like a very specific sort of duck.

But of course I hate Jews . . .what other reasonable answer could there be?

returnNull wrote:

http://bfolder.ru/_ph/67/114956865.png

You thanked this post by returnNull

You described MSF as a "pro-Israeli" NGO purely because the co-founder was Jewish.

It was you that mentioned he was half Jewish, not me.
Putting words in my mouth.

You then started using a false quote from Ariel Sharon, which states that 'Jews run America'
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86639897&postcount=907

Maybe it's false, maybe it's true. The site you gave me doesn't really provide any concrete evidence to invalidate it. Again, you're using your opinions as fact.

It's well known fact the Israeli lobbies in America are extremely powerful. For you to deny this and claim it's just Jew hating propaganda, truly exposes what you're all about.

Here's Netanyahu talking in 2001 about how he can control America, but I suppose you think it's fake too?



Then he testifies there's no doubt Iraq had Nuclear Weapons, which we know was a lie too. But hey, don't mention this to Nodin, because you'll be called a Jew Hater.

That's the same "waah, lemme alone" you tried with Fred earlier. Its not that convincing, tbh. Particularily when I haven't yet awarded you a title.

I don't know what the hell you're talking about now, kid.
Where in this thread did I respond to "Fred" ...

If a drunk man is arguing with you, would you stand around and try reason with him?

Better things to do with my time than debate an issue with people that clearly have no clue what they're talking about.

Nodin wrote:

He did not support the invasion of Iraq. You threw that in because he's of Jewish extraction.

No, I didn't throw it in because of his Jewish extraction, that's what you wrongly assumed and probably won't bother apologizing for.

In a US embassy cable, it states he supported the US-led invasion of Iraq.

(SBU) In a surprise move, President Sarkozy has appointed world renowned humanitarian Bernard Kouchner as Minister of Foreign and European Affairs.

Kouchner's appointment to lead the Quai d'Orsay represents the fulfillment of a longtime dream for the celebrated champion of humanitarian causes.

Kouchner has made a career out of drawing attention to international humanitarian issues. His numerous efforts include projects in Somalia, Bosnia, Northern Iraq, Nagorno-Karabakh, Sudan, Ethiopia and Lebanon.

Considered a maverick among his Socialist Party colleagues, Kouchner was one of the few politicians (left or right) to openly support the American-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

An experienced administrator, he has held three ministerial portfolios in Socialist governments: as Junior-Minister for Health (1997-98 and 2001-2002), as Minister of Health and Humanitarian Affairs (1992-93), and as Secretary of State for Humanitarian Affairs (1988-92). During 1994-97, Kouchner served as a Member of the European Parliament. He officially joined the Socialist Party in 1998.

So far you've made so many factual errors, that's rather laughable.

Your opinions are not factual.
Have you anything to back up your opinions?

Perhaps they're factual in your own little world, just not the real world.

Nodin, what Kouchner says publicly and privately are 2 different things. He's a politician and It goes without saying, they get paid very well to be convincing liars.

Kouchner seems to have a uncanny habit of being misinterpreted by the media given his position on enemies of Israel.

When he wrote a letter in 2007 encouraging the EU to impose sanctions on Iran over their Nuclear Program, he was supported by Britain.

Britain said Thursday it "wholeheartedly" backs French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner's call for the European Union to consider new economic sanctions against Iran over its nuclear regime.

Kouchner said of relations with Iran: "We have to prepare for the worst, and the worst is war." He later clarified his comments to his Iranian counterpart, saying he wanted to avoid war.

When he met with US General Petraeus in 2008, he lauded the US for their "spectacular" progress . . .

French FM Kouchner congratulated MNF-I Commanding General (CG) Petraeus on "spectacular" progress in Iraq during an hour-long June 1 meeting held at the Guest House on President Talabani's Karrada compound.

Also attending were S/I Satterfield, and, for the French, Ambassador Jean-Francois Girault, NEA A/S-Equivalent Jean Felix-Paganon, and MFA Advisor for the Middle East Christophe Bigot.

Kouchner emphasized the need to forge strong ties to Iraqi Shi'ites and to foster a split with their Iranian co-religionists.

He remarked in Feb 2008 about Iran.

"Yes to sanctions but we must engage in a dialogue with Iran, which is a great country with a great culture."

Publicly, he likes to sit on the fence but privately it's clear what his objectives are.

"It's not for us to say if Israel has to negotiate with Hamas or not. An understanding could be reached,"

Referring to last week's killing of top Hezbollah commander Imad Mughnieh in a Damascus car bombing, Kouchner said: "Assassinations are not a good way to resolve conflicts."

For someone who apparently doesn't support Israel, he sure does work diligently to support their war on Iran.

You claim he doesn't support settlements on Palestinian land, yet he denied settlements in Gilo would hinder peace process.

Under International law, the settlements were illegal, but that didn't stop him stating.

"I understand that this is not a political decision, and it should not be an obstacle to resuming negotiations."

Kouchner continued to say that France would not recognize a unilateral Palestinian declaration of statehood, adding that statements made by Palestinian officials in this regard are merely aimed at attracting international attention to the Palestinian issue in the absence of negotiations with Israel.

In a nutshell, he's a professional liar and complete hypocrite with zero credibility, easily duping his supporters left and right.

Jonny7 wrote: »

These are fairly standard tame statements.. you're on a bit of a witch-hunt here with this guy.

He sits on the fence publicly two faced politician, pretending to be a humanitarian ...it's sickening.
Privately, he supports Israeli policies and is just another war monger.

History will judge him.