The Hazards of Belief

Gbear · 05-09-2013 06:28PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Fcuk the Taliban.

It's horrible but to Captain Hindsight things in admittedly indecent fashion, given the circumstances, if you want to speak out about civil rights and not get murdered then don't live in very Muslim countries.

joseph brand · 05-09-2013 07:25PM

Can You Believe In Global Warming AND God? (Rush Limbaugh)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kuY4otrUSk

Obviously, pumping millions of tonnes of CO2 and methane (which iirc is a lot worse), can't possibly affect the Earth's natural system. There's no way that god would let it happen? Sure, he doesn't even let war, famine, plagues, rape, paedophilia and X Factor happen.

God: "I got this one covered, carry on."

FouxDaFaFa · 05-09-2013 10:53PM

Gbear wrote: »

It's horrible but to Captain Hindsight things in admittedly indecent fashion, given the circumstances, if you want to speak out about civil rights and not get murdered then don't live in very Muslim countries.

I know you mean well, but nothing will ever change if everyone has that attitude. I'm sure she knew the risks in going back but she went anyway to try to do some good.

Hotblack Desiato · 05-09-2013 11:07PM

Gbear wrote: »

It's horrible but to Captain Hindsight things in admittedly indecent fashion, given the circumstances, if you want to speak out about civil rights and not get murdered then don't live in very Muslim countries.

If you want to speak out about Nazi atrocities, don't live in Nazi Germany.

There is a strange logic to it all right.

It's a repugnant thing to have to say but nobody ever made a good livin' out of being a martyr.

Speak out by all means but it's easier (although perhaps less effective) to speak out from a place of safety.

Gbear · 05-09-2013 11:56PM

Thinking about the theocracies and quasi theocracies throughout the Middle East and to a lesser extent, Africa, is really depressing.

It's very hard to see how things are going to un**** themselves in those places but it seems pretty clear that there's going to be an awful lot more senseless deaths before they do.:(

robindch · 06-09-2013 09:44AM

A new documentary claims that televangelist Pat Robertson has been less than fully honest about his activities in Africa:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/05/mission-congo-pat-robertson-aid-rwanda

Sarky · 06-09-2013 10:06AM

F*ck me sideways, what a scumbag.

FouxDaFaFa · 06-09-2013 10:27AM

robindch wrote: »

A new documentary claims that televangelist Pat Robertson has been less than fully honest about his activities in Africa:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/05/mission-congo-pat-robertson-aid-rwanda

Wow, it's so much more complex than him simply being corrupt. It's staggering.

kylith · 06-09-2013 10:59AM

How can they decline to prosecute him if he has clearly been gaining money under false pretences?

Sarky · 06-09-2013 11:09AM

He fixshed the road?

Brian Shanahan · 06-09-2013 05:31PM

robindch wrote: »

A new documentary claims that televangelist Pat Robertson has been less than fully honest about his activities in Africa:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/05/mission-congo-pat-robertson-aid-rwanda

That's actually pretty old news, Greg Palast for example, reporting about it since at least 1999. It's just that the major news outlets, especially in America wouldn't touch him until very recently (and only because he's exposed himself too much to hit them back).

recedite · 08-09-2013 11:33AM

joseph brand wrote: »

It's like jesus used to say: "You don't need to have a lobotomy to believe in me, but it helps."

The Bible according to Brand

Well, I suppose its as valid as any other version.

MrPudding · 08-09-2013 01:23PM

Gbear wrote: »

It's horrible but to Captain Hindsight things in admittedly indecent fashion, given the circumstances, if you want to speak out about civil rights and not get murdered then don't live in very Muslim countries.

But, but it's a religion of peace...! Why can one not speak out and remain in the country?

MrP

robindch · 09-09-2013 01:21PM

Lots of sick people to hear about Syria in France:

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-lourdes-pilgrimage-1073724-Sep2013/

TheJournal wrote:

ABOUT 2,000 PEOPLE, including patients, doctors, nurses, volunteers and secondary school students, departed Dublin Airport this morning, ready to take part in the annual Lourdes pilgrimage. Seven planes took off as part of the country’s largest pilgrimage despite fears over recent flooding in the French region.

The Archodiocese of Dublin said it was taking 140 secondary schools students from 23 schools, as well as their teachers, on this trip – but huge demand meant not everyone on the waiting list was facilitated. Prayers are to be offered up in both Dublin and Lourdes today for a peaceful resolution to the ongoing conflict in Syria.

“Lourdes is such a peaceful, prayerful shrine,” said director Fr Martin Noone. “Our prayers, on the Vigil of her birth, will be to Our Lady Queen of Peace as we fervently hope that dialogue, peace and reconciliation will triumph in Syria over scenes of desperation and destruction.” Archbishop Diarmuid Martin will lead prayers for peace in Syria at St Bernadette’s Church in Lourdes, while at the same time, an evening service will be held at St Mary’s Pro Cathedral in Dublin with Bishop Eamonn Walsh.

Sarky · 09-09-2013 01:22PM

Well that's Syria sorted. Hooray!

Delirium · 09-09-2013 02:08PM

"Class we're going to do what we can for the people of Syria. The school has organised a school trip to Disneyland!" :rolleyes:

Bannasidhe · 09-09-2013 02:38PM

koth wrote: »

"Class we're going to do what we can for the people of Syria. The school has organised a sponsored school trip to Disneyland! Get knocking on the neighbours doors tonight and don't forget to tell them it is for the babbies in Syria" :rolleyes:

FYP.

swampgas · 09-09-2013 08:31PM

koth wrote: »

"Class we're going to do what we can for the people of Syria. [...]

Surely most of these Syrians are not Christian and therefore going to burn in hell for all eternity? Or has the Catholic church changed its mind while I wasn't looking?

Brian Shanahan · 09-09-2013 08:58PM

swampgas wrote: »

Surely most of these Syrians are not Christian and therefore going to burn in hell for all eternity? Or has the Catholic church changed its mind while I wasn't looking?

"But Johnny, the reason why they are suffering now is that they are filthy heathens. By going to Lourdes and praying for them, Jebus will convert them, and by the act of conversion the bad things will stop happening, and Syria will turn into a land of milk and honey, like good old Ireland used to be before the gov'mint started killing all dem baybeeeeees!"

Gordon · 09-09-2013 09:21PM

I thought the catholic god smote Lourdes with a flood? Are catholic people not barred from there now that its been smote?

recedite · 10-09-2013 10:38AM

A rainbow was seen there recently, and that's God's signal that he is back in a good mood again, so its OK for them to return there now.

Sarky · 10-09-2013 10:45AM

It was probably a hoax by the homosexual agenda.

Links234 · 10-09-2013 10:58AM

absolute filth :mad:

http://www.examiner.com/article/yemen-8-year-old-girl-dies-from-internal-injuries-on-wedding-night

SebBerkovich · 10-09-2013 11:32AM

Links234 wrote: »

absolute filth :mad:

http://www.examiner.com/article/yemen-8-year-old-girl-dies-from-internal-injuries-on-wedding-night

This is one of those news stories that makes me want to question my stance against the death penalty.

Hard to see how the world could benefit from this monster being alive in it.

robindch · 10-09-2013 02:40PM

Religious publications enter choppy financial waters. Jesus will accept checks, I'm sure:

http://www.religionnews.com/2013/09/06/as-publications-struggle-christian-literary-magazine-books-culture-could-shut-down/

Sarky · 10-09-2013 02:49PM

It always irked me no end that I could walk about Cork, seeing the odd pub in danger of shutting down when they did almighty work promoting new bands, giving struggling musicians a venue and a chance, hosting art exhibitions, and generally providing community services as well as serving alcohol and food, and then turn down an alleyway and see some place filled with religious tat (and recently those despicable Alive-O schoolbooks) ticking over without an apparent care in the world.

robindch · 10-09-2013 03:07PM

And a rerun of an old story -- teenage pregnancy rates are higher where abstinence-only programs are in place:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/07/us-teen-pregnancy-rate-drops-due-to-contraception-access-remains-high-in-abstinence-only-red-states

PopePalpatine · 10-09-2013 06:04PM

I think Michelle Bachmann is trying to prove that you can survive with anencephaly. Link

Hotblack Desiato · 10-09-2013 06:45PM

She's living proof.

the_monkey · 10-09-2013 07:52PM

lunatics !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23986595

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