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Big Book event this weekend in case anyone is interested
https://www.facebook.com/groups/123081624385185/Saturday 31st August, Fellowship of The Spirit Ireland Conference in Red Cow Morans Hotel,see attached flier for details. Please SHARE this with anyone you think might be interested.0 -
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Carpet diem wrote: »Slipped up last night. Variety of reasons . Comments Appreciated. Its definitely when I feel very refreshed and weekend that things can unwind very quickly.
I'm not gonna dwell too much on it and focus on today. I will post later with update
There are loads of AA meetings all over the city today.
Maybe you ought to consider trying one out
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Carpet diem wrote: »Feeling ok today - trying to get back to normal physically. It takes that much of a toll on me for days and my sleep was a disaster last night. Wakening up sweating etc and not being able to get back to sleep.
It's made me even more determined not to mess up again is the only positive. Have AA tonight I will go to at least 2 this week. Today and Thursday and possibly Sunday. No more putting it off. Apprehensive about tonight but I have no other choice. Ì want to live my life and that is why I'm doing it.
I was thinking of mixing it up with Lifering as well? I went a few times before and I liked the idea of it. We discuss your plans for weekend etc and anything that was bothering you. It was forward looking and I liked it. But maybe I should just stick with AA? What do ye think?
Sometimes I think it is harder now in our age than any other for alcoholics seeking help. There are so many "treatment" choices now that it can be difficult to find where one really 'fits'.
I can only say this: my experience with AA it that it has worked for me and for many other real drunks, some that I used to drink with, haha, so I am an eyewitness to what it can do in my own life and the lives of others too.
Also, AA's definition of alcoholism rang true for me, whereas I found other's didn't really speak to my own experience, particularly anyone that counsels 'moderation'.....for me, only absolute abstinence from alcohol has proved successful.
So I guess it's up to you. Whatever you do, don't get too confused and then invoke the alkie's favorite slogan "F*CK IT"
Ps: this book is Free today for anyone interested. I found it quite good, but again, to each his own:
http://www.amazon.com/Real-Meditation-Alcoholics-those-love/dp/1481118722/ref=la_B00AYKLFFK_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357766026&sr=1-10 -
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I'm proud of you, as silly as that sounds, coming from one anonymous name to the other.
You're walking your talk, and that ranks as just about the number one trait of people that 'make it ' out of the alcoholic cesspool in my books .
An old AA pal of mine told me "I don't pay much attention to what alkies say, but I sure as hell watch where their feet are headed"
He's gone now, but died sober after 30 years of continuous sobriety, which is just about as good as it gets in our club.
Ps: One of my friends slept, yes...slept, through almost every meeting I took her to her first year. It was unbelievable!
I think it was some kind of stress reaction or something (?), but the magic must have sunk in because she is coming up to 10 years of continuous sobriety. And guess what? She has never been the main speaker at a meeting. She did start sharing a little bit after a few years, but fro the start she did most of her talking outside of meetings with her friends and her sponsor, and she's stayed that way.
My point is this: don't ever feel pressure to talk before you're ready. For now, just being there is brilliant.
Having said that though, my pal is by far in the minority amongst AA's. Once most of us get over the initial shyness at meetings, you can't shut us up, as I'm sure you'll discover 0 -
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Amazingfun wrote: »I'm proud of you, as silly as that sounds, coming from one anonymous name to the other.
You're walking your talk, and that ranks as just about the number one trait of people that 'make it ' out of the alcoholic cesspool in my books .
An old AA pal of mine told me "I don't pay much attention to what alkies say, but I sure as hell watch where their feet are headed"
He's gone now, but died sober after 30 years of continuous sobriety, which is just about as good as it gets in our club.
Ps: One of my friends slept, yes...slept, through almost every meeting I took her to her first year. It was unbelievable!
I think it was some kind of stress reaction or something (?), but the magic must have sunk in because she is coming up to 10 years of continuous sobriety. And guess what? She has never been the main speaker at a meeting. She did start sharing a little bit after a few years, but fro the start she did most of her talking outside of meetings with her friends and her sponsor, and she's stayed that way.
My point is this: don't ever feel pressure to talk before you're ready. For now, just being there is brilliant.
Having said that though, my pal is by far in the minority amongst AA's. Once most of us get over the initial shyness at meetings, you can't shut us up, as I'm sure you'll discover
I guess talking is a good way of letting of steam. All stories in AA are diverse and you think you are not so bad but in fact we are all the same - were all in there because of alcohol. So we are a in same situation that we want to get out of.
I have long way to go - I think there are issues I will need to get yo bottom of once I'm sober for long enough.
Thanks for kind words of encouraging - it really does help.0 -
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This is a site I found very helpful, and I will also extend an offer of private chats too if need be. I see Clementine Brave Sunglasses has reached out which is great, feel free to pm myself too if you ever feel the need. We can even do a meeting sometime if ya like! I am sure there are loads more on here who would be more than happy to help.
http://xa-speakers.org/
Can't say enough about this site, excellent collection of speakers and they have entire Big Book studies and tapes of conferences where people , many decades sober, will walk you through the steps, traditions, and even the whole history of AA if you are so inclined. There is even a recording of the first 'Fellowship of the Spirit' conference here in Dublin, 2007
Some of my fav speakers are Tom I, Don P, Mark H, Joe H, Chris R......but there are TONS of good folks on there, you have enough experience to last months and even years of listening. I used to listen to them at night when I had trouble sleeping, and in between meetings when I felt antsy, etc. Now I listen for the joy of it, and when I need a kick in the arse myself
Truth is, some of those folks helped get me sober, even though I only met some of them 'in real life'. It's a valuable tool.
Here is the link to the various conferences, etc:
http://xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php?action=category&id=1
Here are single speakers:
http://xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php?action=category&id=2
Ps: Here is a good video making the rounds at the moment:
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Amazingfun wrote: »This is a site I found very helpful, and I will also extend an offer of private chats too if need be. I see Clementine Brave Sunglasses has reached out which is great, feel free to pm myself too if you ever feel the need. We can even do a meeting sometime if ya like! I am sure there are loads more on here who would be more than happy to help.
http://xa-speakers.org/
Can't say enough about this site, excellent collection of speakers and they have entire Big Book studies and tapes of conferences where people , many decades sober, will walk you through the steps, traditions, and even the whole history of AA if you are so inclined. There is even a recording of the first 'Fellowship of the Spirit' conference here in Dublin, 2007
Some of my fav speakers are Tom I, Don P, Mark H, Joe H, Chris R......but there are TONS of good folks on there, you have enough experience to last months and even years of listening. I used to listen to them at night when I had trouble sleeping, and in between meetings when I felt antsy, etc. Now I listen for the joy of it, and when I need a kick in the arse myself
Truth is, some of those folks helped get me sober, even though I only met some of them 'in real life'. It's a valuable tool.
Here is the link to the various conferences, etc:
http://xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php?action=category&id=1
Here are single speakers:
http://xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php?action=category&id=2
Ps: Here is a good video making the rounds at the moment:
Thanks - PM sent. Some good people on this forum.0 -
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Carpet diem wrote: »Went to the steps meeting saturday and ordinary meeting today. I still haven't talked partially out of shyness I suppose and I think I need to make my debut fairly lively.
For some reason the meeting today didn't do it for me. I gona speak tomorrow and maybe offer to say the thing before/after meeting just to hear my myself speaking.
Other than that I couldn't be any better - getting gym work in as well. I might try another venue as well. I wouldn't mind getting a sponsor to talk to one to one.
Hehe, I like how you said that....made me laugh as I think we all think a bit like that...."what can I get from this" rather than "what did I put into this"
PS: Just remember, there are LOADS of different meetings. Give yourself time to check out a good few before deciding where you feel like you most 'fit', and then make a commitment to get active in that group (if you can). Picking one close to work or your home makes it more likely you will actually go, so that's a thought too.
You can still go to other meetings, of course!, but having what we call a "home group" can be good for the ole head. You don't have to think too much---just go
You are doing great!0
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