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raymix · 21-08-2013 04:31PM

Do you guys think that PCI-e SDDs will rock out aging SATA drives?
Think about it - connected directly to NB and RAM, easier on cable management and could fill those extra empty PCIe slots sitting there useless.

Danger781 · 21-08-2013 04:35PM

raymix wrote: »

Do you guys think that PCI-e SDDs will rock out aging SATA drives?
Think about it - connected directly to NB and RAM, easier on cable management and could fill those extra empty PCIe slots sitting there useless.

They're quite pricey if I'm not mistaken..

BloodBath · 21-08-2013 04:46PM

raymix wrote: »

Do you guys think that PCI-e SDDs will rock out aging SATA drives?
Think about it - connected directly to NB and RAM, easier on cable management and could fill those extra empty PCIe slots sitting there useless.

Considering even mid sized samsung 840 evo's are pretty much maxing sata 600 bandwidth then they will have to if they want higher speeds.

We need sata 900 or 1200 already.

raymix · 21-08-2013 05:24PM

BloodBath wrote: »

Considering even mid sized samsung 840 evo's are pretty much maxing sata 600 bandwidth then they will have to if they want higher speeds.

We need sata 900 or 1200 already.

Come to think of it, a price per GB for SSD is bigger issue than speed itself, majority of users aren't capable of saturating 600 fully atm.
I'd say video recording/editing and some simulators would benefit from snappier drives, but that's about it.

Being able to plug an SSD into RAM slot would be a fun technology to play around with.

Serephucus · 21-08-2013 08:07PM

There's also the argument of "What's the point?" Most people don't use the sequential speeds of existing SSDs, and really, is anyone going to notice the difference between 500MB/s and 800MB/s? I'm all for innovation and moving forward, I just don't see the average consumer making use of this at all.

Danger781 · 21-08-2013 08:13PM

Serephucus wrote: »

There's also the argument of "What's the point?" Most people don't use the sequential speeds of existing SSDs, and really, is anyone going to notice the difference between 500MB/s and 800MB/s? I'm all for innovation and moving forward, I just don't see the average consumer making use of this at all.

Most average users don't even make use of SSDs, and probably wouldn't even know if they had one or not.

Serephucus · 21-08-2013 08:15PM

Danger781 wrote: »

Most average users don't even make use of SSDs, and probably wouldn't even know if they had one or not.

This, I have to disagree with. I've installed SSDs in my family's desktop, as well as my dad's laptop. On both machines, every member of my family was able to tell an immediate difference. Maybe they wouldn't know why their computer was so fast if they weren't told, but they definitely would notice a difference.

nesf · 21-08-2013 08:20PM

Serephucus wrote: »

This, I have to disagree with. I've installed SSDs in my family's desktop, as well as my dad's laptop. On both machines, every member of my family was able to tell an immediate difference. Maybe they wouldn't know why their computer was so fast if they weren't told, but they definitely would notice a difference.

Agreed. My father booted up his new PC with an SSD for the first time and was like: "Hmmm, worth every penny."

raymix · 21-08-2013 08:31PM

Expensive and fast toys are targeted towards enthusiast and professional field not average users. You won't see an average dude buying TITAN to play facebook games or 10k RPM disk to store movies.... well you get the point.

There will always be someone paying to have the best and fastest whether or not its actually needed.

The actual problem with people I personally noticed is lack of knowledge or experience. People has mentioned their laptops booting up 5-10 minutes for example, so I offer them to get an SSD before considering spending tons of cash on a shiny new laptop, because that SSD can be also reused later when upgrading the system, right? The response usually is negative.. because "cmon hard drive is for storage only, how does it help you surfing faster?". Silly humans.

Serephucus · 21-08-2013 08:35PM

That's when you feed them the line of:

"You know how Macs are always really fast? They have SSDs, and that's the only difference."

They'll agree pretty quickly to an SSD after that. It's really unfortunate (because they've done a lot of completely asinine shít as well) but because of all the marketing Apple has done, it makes certain points easy to get across to the average idiot.

nesf · 21-08-2013 08:42PM

Serephucus wrote: »

That's when you feed them the line of:

"You know how Macs are always really fast? They have SSDs, and that's the only difference."

They'll agree pretty quickly to an SSD after that. It's really unfortunate (because they've done a lot of completely asinine shít as well) but because of all the marketing Apple has done, it makes certain points easy to get across to the average idiot.

Eh, most Macs don't actually. Mainly because Apple's pricing on SSDs is shameful extortion. :P

raymix · 21-08-2013 08:43PM

That's just mean, haha

Serephucus · 21-08-2013 08:44PM

nesf wrote: »

Eh, most Macs don't actually. Mainly because Apple's pricing on SSDs is shameful extortion. :P

Agreed (RE pricing), but I thought most of their notebooks came with SSDs as standard? If not, well, yuck.

nesf · 21-08-2013 08:47PM

Serephucus wrote: »

Agreed (RE pricing), but I thought most of their notebooks came with SSDs as standard? If not, well, yuck.

The MacBook Air does. The MacBook Pros don't (at least the normal ones).

Sarz91 · 21-08-2013 10:17PM

Was looking at the prodigy M MAtx case there looks really interesting. Could anyone point me in the direction of an intel micro atx board that has 2x PCI-E x16 slots? I only seem to be able to find AMD ones. Also, would I really fit 2 Asus 7950 DirectCU II TOP V2 in that case?

game4it70 · 21-08-2013 10:19PM

Sarz91 wrote: »

Was looking at the prodigy M MAtx case there looks really interesting. Could anyone point me in the direction of an intel micro atx board that has 2x PCI-E x16 slots? I only seem to be able to find AMD ones. Also, would I really fit 2 Asus 7950 DirectCU II TOP V2 in that case?

What socket?

Sarz91 · 21-08-2013 10:20PM

game4it70 wrote: »

What socket?

**** sorry it's a 3570k so 1155.

game4it70 · 21-08-2013 10:28PM

Sarz91 wrote: »

**** sorry it's a 3570k so 1155.

I thought the ASUS Rampage IV Gene did but sorry no.It has 16x slots but runs 8x with dual cards.

Tbh i'm not sure if there are any but hopefully someone else will know.

Either way though you really wont lose much performance with 8x imo.

Serephucus · 21-08-2013 10:31PM

There isn't one, unless you want to pay ridiculous money for one with a PLX chip, and even then, I don't know if there's an mATX board that uses one. PLXs are pretty much only multiplexers anyway, adding a little lag.

I'd sooner just go for an x8/x8 board if it were me.

Sarz91 · 21-08-2013 10:34PM

Serephucus wrote: »

There isn't one, unless you want to pay ridiculous money for one with a PLX chip, and even then, I don't know if there's an mATX board that uses one. PLXs are pretty much only multiplexers anyway, adding a little lag.

I'd sooner just go for an x8/x8 board if it were me.

It's just an idea I've had for a while. I doubt I'd even use 2 cards to be honest. I can't imagine needing more than 1 7950 on 1080p.

nesf · 21-08-2013 11:17PM

Sarz91 wrote: »

Was looking at the prodigy M MAtx case there looks really interesting. Could anyone point me in the direction of an intel micro atx board that has 2x PCI-E x16 slots? I only seem to be able to find AMD ones. Also, would I really fit 2 Asus 7950 DirectCU II TOP V2 in that case?

Why do you want 2 x16? For anything short of 3 x 1080p monitors 2 x8 is more than fine. Generally speaking.

Snowie · 22-08-2013 12:19AM

any one got tomb raider on the pc i cant remember how to use the ice axe :S

dammm

Sarz91 · 22-08-2013 12:22AM

Any idea as to when AMD are releasingtheir hd 9xxx series? I've read as early as October.

WhiskeyGoblin · 22-08-2013 12:29AM

Corsair Carbide Air 540 is absolutely quality. In love with it, temps dropped quite a bit. RAM hopefully tomorrow and gonna throw a H80 in the mix.

raymix · 22-08-2013 12:29AM

Snowie wrote: »

any one got tomb raider on the pc i cant remember how to use the ice axe :S

dammm

think it was a "use" button when up close

WhiskeyGoblin · 22-08-2013 12:49AM

I think I've just crossed a point of no return. Just ordered a H80 ;____;

..Brian.. · 22-08-2013 09:10AM

Looking to but a new flash drive, all the reviews point towards the Sandisk Extreme. Does capacity affect performance? The 32gb for about €35 looks good but am I missing out on more than storage by not buying the 64gb?

Sarz91 · 23-08-2013 12:00AM

Anyone have any idea if the PS4's on hardwareversand are out of stock due to them not being out yet or out of stock as in no more pre-order business.

TerrorFirmer · 23-08-2013 12:08AM

I'm in the market as well for a decent 16GB usb3 flash drive. Anyone any suggestions?

TerrorFirmer · 23-08-2013 12:10AM

marko93 wrote: »

I think I've just crossed a point of no return. Just ordered a H80 ;____;

I got one second hand a while back really cheap. I find it a lot louder than I expected, I'm actually pretty much a noob when it comes to watercooling, so I've no idea what's 'normal' with regards pump noise. I had a self contained cpu water cooler before, forget the model, but it was definitely much quieter than the pump in the h80 i have...

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