Has Ireland disowned Thin Lizzy?

TheBegotten · 14-08-2013 10:50PM #1

I just heard Cowboy Song for the first time on Youtube today and I was quite literally blown away. I got me thinking about how the irish music scene has deteriorated to the point that eejits like Jedward what's-his-name from the Script are national music icons, whereas some of the best musicians in the world like Gary Moore and Rory Gallagher have been all but forgotten about. Should we embrace our musical past more, or just accept the process of X-Factorisation that has infected the country in the past few years?

Here's the video, I'd recommend it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QJl67JwktA

And I'll add a poll, for the craic.

14-08-2013 10:52PM

Nah Thin Lizzy are great.

demanufactured · 14-08-2013 10:53PM

Modern pop music / X factor has completely ruined music.

Manufactured bile.

Celly Smunt · 14-08-2013 10:53PM

A mediocre Irish band with more member changes than I've had hot dinners.

SpaceTime · 14-08-2013 10:54PM

We definitely haven't disowned them!

Do you seriously think Jedward will get a statue? (Phil Lynott)
Or a city square called after them? (Rory Gallagher)

There's a big difference between pop culture entertainment and actual music.

GoldenTickets · 14-08-2013 10:55PM

TheBegotten wrote: »

I just heard Cowboy Song for the first time on Youtube today and I was quite literally blown away.

The fact that you hadn't heard of Thin Lizzy until today doesn't mean the rest of us hadn't.

Welcome to the party pal.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 14-08-2013 10:56PM

Sorty to have to be the bearer of bad new but Gary Moore, Phil lynott and Rory Gallagher are all dead.

Celly Smunt · 14-08-2013 10:56PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

We definitely haven't disowned them!

Do you seriously think Jedward will get a statue? (Phil Lynott)
Or a city square called after them? (Rory Gallagher)

There's a big difference between pop culture entertainment and actual music.

There's a big difference between the calibre of Rory Gallagher and Phil Lynott too

the back of beyond · 14-08-2013 10:56PM

Infected is a brilliant choice of word

endacl · 14-08-2013 10:59PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

Do you seriously think Jedward will get a statue? (Phil Lynott)
Or a city square called after them? (Rory Gallagher)

Or a small oversexed chimpanzee?

overshoot · 14-08-2013 11:03PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

We definitely haven't disowned them!

Do you seriously think Jedward will get a statue? (Phil Lynott)
Or a city square called after them? (Rory Gallagher)

There's a big difference between pop culture entertainment and actual music.

or a street in france

anyway OP i see your jedward and raise you the strypes, not all hope is lost

i like oddsocks too

TheBegotten · 14-08-2013 11:03PM

GoldenTickets wrote: »

The fact that you hadn't heard of Thin Lizzy until today doesn't mean the rest of us hadn't.

Welcome to the party pal.

Well that's kind of the point, I grew up knowing Thin Lizzy existed, but until recently just thought they were just another mediocore 70's band with a couple of hits to keep the golden oldies happy. The caliber of the songs they produced - and not just the occasional hits - is pretty impressive, along with their originality.

the back of beyond · 14-08-2013 11:06PM

TheBegotten wrote: »

Well that's kind of the point, I grew up knowing Thin Lizzy existed, but until recently just thought they were just another mediocore 70's band with a couple of hits to keep the golden oldies happy. The caliber of the songs they produced - and not just the occasional hits - is pretty impressive, along with their originality.

I can remember watching an interview with Metallica and how they said Thin lizzy were an inspiration to them. Had Thin Lizzy been American, they would have been a phenomenon

Triangular · 14-08-2013 11:07PM

I don't understand the media's obsession with Thin Lizzy. Not a bad band but they get more promotion on the airwaves then many of the living active bands in Ireland.

SilverScreen · 14-08-2013 11:10PM

Personally I've never felt Thin Lizzy was really my thing but there's still quite a few young Thin Lizzy fans out there still. The fact is music moves on and evolves and so do people. Using Jedward as an example of modern Irish music is a piss poor example to be honest when you have artists like Villagers, God is an Astronaut, And So I Watch You From Afar, Halves, Lisa Hannigan etc. I'd rather Irish people pay attention to artists like these rather than focus too much on the past.

bnt · 14-08-2013 11:10PM

CJC999 wrote: »

Sorty to have to be the bearer of bad new but Gary Moore, Phil lynott and Rory Gallagher are all dead.

So ... recall Midge Ure?

Clandestine · 14-08-2013 11:13PM

TheBegotten wrote: »

I got me thinking about how the irish music scene has deteriorated to the point that eejits like Jedward what's-his-name from the Script are national music icons, whereas some of the best musicians in the world like Gary Moore and Rory Gallagher have been all but forgotten about.

Isn't that the same deal everywhere though? Crappy mainstream artists get pushed to the forefront, and half-decent "classic" artists are constantly praised and said to belong to the "good old days"? I'm not saying Garry Moore and Rory are bad artists at all, but calling them "some of the best musicians in the world" is hardly true considering the scope of music.

Cienciano · 14-08-2013 11:13PM

TheBegotten wrote: »

I just heard Cowboy Song for the first time on Youtube today and I was quite literally blown away. I got me thinking about how the irish music scene has deteriorated to the point that eejits like Jedward what's-his-name from the Script are national music icons, whereas some of the best musicians in the world like Gary Moore and Rory Gallagher have been all but forgotten about. Should we embrace our musical past more, or just accept the process of X-Factorisation that has infected the country in the past few years?

I hate you :pac:

GoldenTickets · 14-08-2013 11:14PM

overshoot wrote: »

anyway OP i see your jedward and raise you the strypes, not all hope is lost

I think (and hope) we're actually experiencing our lowest ebb musically in Ireland right now. The Strypes have nothing new to offer, it's all regurgitated rubbish and if a group of 25 year olds emerged playing the same stuff they'd be laughed out of the room. Being in that band is only going to hurt the musical careers of the members in the long run and their sudden climb to the top of the hype heap suggests someone must be spending money behind the scenes to buy media coverage. That Glastonbury performance is lifeless. The people championing these guys now will be denying they ever did next year.

Plenty of people have heard of Thin Lizzy (beyond The Boys are Back in Town and Jailbreak), and they get their due I think. Rory Gallagher doesn't though.

mikom · 14-08-2013 11:15PM

overshoot wrote: »

anyway OP i see your jedward and raise you the strypes, not all hope is lost

I love tribute bands.

TheBegotten · 14-08-2013 11:17PM

Cienciano wrote: »

I hate you :pac:

In a metaphysical sense.

Clandestine · 14-08-2013 11:17PM

GoldenTickets wrote: »

Plenty of people have heard of Thin Lizzy (beyond The Boys are Back in Town and Jailbreak), and they get their due I think. Rory Gallagher doesn't though.

Apparently he's sold 30 million albums, hardly unknown.

TheBegotten · 14-08-2013 11:19PM

Clandestine wrote: »

Apparently he's sold 30 million albums, hardly unknown.

That's only because you couldn't download back then :pac:

GoldenTickets · 14-08-2013 11:22PM

Clandestine wrote: »

Apparently he's sold 30 million albums, hardly unknown.

I didn't say he was unknown, I said he doesn't get his due.

And he doesn't.

mike65 · 14-08-2013 11:23PM

the back of beyond wrote: »

I can remember watching an interview with Metallica and how they said Thin lizzy were an inspiration to them. Had Thin Lizzy been American, they would have been a phenomenon

What a pity they had to cover Whiskey in the Jar then!

Lizzy were "this" close to breaking the US market in a big way in 1977 touring with Queen and Aerosmith but as was typical of the time they managed to blow it with a mix of bad luck and stupidity and Gary Moore walking out in 78.

SouthTippBass · 14-08-2013 11:26PM

TheBegotten wrote: »

in the world like Gary Moore and Rory Gallagher have been all but forgotten about. .

Well, theres that big tribute night they are having in Dublin on Friday...

http://entertainment.ie/show-Gigs/The-Academy/A-Night-For-Phil-Lynott-Gary-Moore/Gigs-2687999.htm

Hardly forgotten about. I think you just havent dug deep enough into these artists, you need to listen to more than the radio singles.

Dr. Bre · 14-08-2013 11:27PM

thin lizzy? who she?

TheBegotten · 14-08-2013 11:32PM

SouthTippBass wrote: »

Well, theres that big tribute night they are having in Dublin on Friday...

http://entertainment.ie/show-Gigs/The-Academy/A-Night-For-Phil-Lynott-Gary-Moore/Gigs-2687999.htm

Hardly forgotten about. I think you just havent dug deep enough into these artists, you need to listen to more than the radio singles.

Wait, what? Are the tickets still on sale?