Irish Pubs in OZ - Dodging vomit and flying fists

FTA69 wrote: »

I don't think anyone is denying that there's a contingent of the Irish in Australia who are annoying p*ss-heads, rather denying that 1) we're the only ones at it and 2) pointing out the fact that the Australians themselves are well able to engage in stupid boorish drunkenness. And they're even worse when abroad. A cursory stop into the Walkabout in Covent Garden will show you that in two seconds.

To be honest Irish migrants have always had a bad reputation when it comes to this sort of thing. Exporting large groups of young men engaged in casualised labour, unsupervised and away from home and the first thing they will do is go on the lash. They've been doing that in New York and London for decades.

doug_the_head wrote: »

within both Australia and new Zealand , their exists and underlying snobbish - patronising attitude towards the irish which dates back to the founding of those countries by Britain , its only elements but its most certainly there

its nonsense , the aussies are not exactly renowned for their refinement as a people and I say that as someone who likes them for the most part , this faux outrage about drinking is a bad joke

Stevie888 wrote: »

The problem is, many of the Irish in Australia are there because they feel they have to be there to work, rather then wanting to be there like everyone else. So you get a lot of poorly educated/un-skilled people who have barely ever left their village or town going over to a big city with a very different culture, where getting **** faced all weekend and getting into a scrap at the local chipper is completely unacceptable. It's funny but you never see any of the other backpacker nationalities carrying on this way. It's always the Irish wrecking everybody else's fun. You can always pick the bad groups out though, always in groups of 8 or more like a pack of dogs, and never any people from other nationalities with them. The Australians in Europe can be bad, but the Irish in Oz take it to a whole new level.

doug_the_head wrote: »

I said it was elements , aussies and kiwis often b1tch about England but deep down , they want that supposed unique English pretense of decency which usually involves viewing the irish as lesser

HansHolzel wrote: »

You were on about a version of Godwin's Law earlier. Someone may eventually blame the Brits, as you claim, but not half as fast as someone like you will be on to worship them, explicitly or implicitly.

HansHolzel wrote: »

What an idiotic snotty remark ("Hide your potatoes"). I'd cringe if I were you too.

Stevie888 wrote: »

Look, I agree with a lot of what you're saying.

I meant we are by far and away the worst group on the work holiday visa

I'd imagine we are. There is a very low calibre amongst many of the Irish migrants over there; people with zero interest of building a life or career for themselves and are just engaged in a giant p*ss-up with the whole "f*ck you" attitude that goes with that.

I suppose my only grievance is that drunken violence etc existed in Australia long before the latest Irish wave went there and there are other groups in the country well able to cause hassle. Similarly I know loads of decent and hard-working people there who are serious about residency and have made a life there for themselves. These people tend to get ignored by those who say "sure Oz is only a long holiday for them all." There seems to be two kinds of Irish migrant there.

And although they are far from saints in London, they are nowhere near as bad as the Irish in Australia.

They aren't economic migrants you're correct there. Similarly there isn't nearly the amount of them in London as vice versa. They are well known for being a pain in the hole though.

HansHolzel wrote: »

"Although alright is a common spelling in written dialogue and in other types of informal writing, all right is used in more formal, edited writing."

Source: dictionary.com

Please don't ask me next what a dictionary is.

My point is is that if the Australians want to air their grievances in the media about the Irish over there then hey have every right to do so.

The Australians in London really has nothing to do with it and wheeling out that line just sounds defensive and childish.

Iwannahurl wrote: »

That's not to say that there isn't a boozing culture to be found among Aussies, just that I didn't encounter any of whatever exists. However, it's an undeniable fact that Ireland is closer than Australia is to the top of the world drinking league (as measured by litres of pure alcohol consumed per capita per year).

FTA69 wrote: »

This article is a case of the pot calling the kettle black, and when dealing with that nonsense it's perfectly fair to bring up the fact that Australians aren't always the most popular abroad either.