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    #692
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »
    Confusing alright. From Setanta's facebook page posted earlier.

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    They changed it back today on there website yesterday they had it listed as Premier Sports
    When you tune into Setanta Sports 1 On the Screen it will say Premier Sports so when you see that don't get confused
    I am watching Setanta Sports 1 right now on the screen its says Premier Sports


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    #693
    *Hank Scorpio*
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭*Hank Scorpio*


    Is it Virgin who also have rights to the Premiership and English Prem Rugby? Or is it BT? Getting confused here.


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    #694
    kooga
    Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭kooga


    *Hank Scorpio* wrote: »
    Is it Virgin who also have rights to the Premiership and English Prem Rugby? Or is it BT? Getting confused here.

    Bt have partial rights to rhe english premierleague football and full rights to the aviva premiership rugby.


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    #695
    Mr Cumulonimbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    paulboland wrote: »
    I am watching Setanta Sports 1 right now on the screen its says Premier Sports

    Is certain content blocked on that channel, e.g. GAA coverage for the UK?

    RoI & NI have Setanta Sports 1 at Sky 424 while Engish regions have Premier Sports at 428.


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    #696
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »
    Is certain content blocked on that channel, e.g. GAA coverage for the UK?

    RoI & NI have Setanta Sports 1 at Sky 424 while Engish regions have Premier Sports at 428.
    That's correct its just the channel still shows up on the screen as Premier Sports on the screen

    EPG channel name in Ireland is Setanta Sports 1
    All adds and program announcement mention Premier Sports
    No matter if your in UK or Ireland the Name Premier Sports appears on the Screen
    Up to Yesterday Setanta had the Name Premier Sports listed on Ireland Webpage as available channels on there package
    It was only changed back to Setanta Sports 1 today but its still showing Premier Sports on the Screen


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    #697
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,537 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    For whatever reason the name change was announced as happening but now it doesn't seem to be - all references to Premier Sports on the website have been removed and reverted to Setanta Sports 1.

    There's two reasons why they might have done this. The first and most obvious is branding - they want to enforce their own brand and in a pack where there is already three different channel brands introducing a fourth might just confuse the public more. The other reason is that they might be leaving the door open for Setanta Sports 1 to be restored as a separate service if their new package becomes successful.


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    #698
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »
    Is certain content blocked on that channel, e.g. GAA coverage for the UK?

    RoI & NI have Setanta Sports 1 at Sky 424 while Engish regions have Premier Sports at 428.
    Yeah seems to be only GAA really that they block it, they must have Irish/UK rights for the rest. Premier Sports in the UK near the end of last PL season was blocked for a couple of 3pm games when Setanta Ireland was broadcasting another live event. Seems like a ridiculous situation and hopefully they will just relaunch SS1 as premier sports or re-separate the channels with the extra revenue this deal will provide.


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    #699
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    Yes as far a I know some gaa matches are blocked in the uk
    but as we live in Ireland would not notice if a Irish programme was blocked


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    #700
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    icdg wrote: »
    For whatever reason the name change was announced as happening but now it doesn't seem to be - all references to Premier Sports on the website have been removed and reverted to Setanta Sports 1.

    There's two reasons why they might have done this. The first and most obvious is branding - they want to enforce their own brand and in a pack where there is already three different channel brands introducing a fourth might just confuse the public more. The other reason is that they might be leaving the door open for Setanta Sports 1 to be restored as a separate service if their new package becomes successful.
    I think you are bang on here, it looks very bad for programs on Premier Sports to be blocked out in the UK... Do you know what the current financial state of Setanta Sports is as it stands before the partnership with BT?... I know they were struggling but if they don't have major debts then they really could make hay with this new deal... I would expect them to go flat out to capture more and more high profile rights.


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    #701
    Pudsy33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,736 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    If I have the upc package with espn included, will I have bt sport?


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    #702
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    If I have the upc package with espn included, will I have bt sport?
    espn is no longer part of the upc tv packs
    Setanta in Ireland have the rights for Espn Bt Sport 1 Bt Sport2

    Were waiting on the information from upc what deal they have done with Setanta


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    #703
    Mr Cumulonimbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    icdg wrote: »
    For whatever reason the name change was announced as happening but now it doesn't seem to be - all references to Premier Sports on the website have been removed and reverted to Setanta Sports 1.

    There's two reasons why they might have done this. The first and most obvious is branding - they want to enforce their own brand and in a pack where there is already three different channel brands introducing a fourth might just confuse the public more. The other reason is that they might be leaving the door open for Setanta Sports 1 to be restored as a separate service if their new package becomes successful.

    Premier Sports (UK) and Setanta Sports 1 are essentially the same channel then? Looking at their website, its available for £9.99pm in the UK, bar NI. Blocks will continue then for certain programming that can only be shown in one region?


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    #704
    jack presley
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Do you know what the current financial state of Setanta Sports is as it stands before the partnership with BT?... I know they were struggling but if they don't have major debts then they really could make hay with this new deal... .

    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/irish-arm-of-setanta-sports-posts-a-14m-loss-for-2011-29461512.html


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    #705
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »
    Premier Sports (UK) and Setanta Sports 1 are essentially the same channel then? Looking at their website, its available for £9.99pm in the UK, bar NI. Blocks will continue then for certain programming that can only be shown in one region?

    Yes that's fully correct
    on the screen though its says Premier Sports even though in Ireland the channel name is Setanta Sports 1
    Same Channel just looks crazy if your in Rep of Ireland


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    #706
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    jack presley wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/irish-arm-of-setanta-sports-posts-a-14m-loss-for-2011-29461512.html
    Not as bad as I expected... potentially with added subscriptions/improved advertisement revenue the rest of this current year could easily make up for losses on that small scale.


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    #707
    closeline
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭closeline


    Thinking of getting one of sky sports or setanta sports for the new season. Does this new deal for Setanta sports swing it in its favour? How much would it cost actually for both?


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    #708
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    We have the digital max pack from UPC.Was watching the MLS game last night on ESPN no problem but now it gives the ''you are not subscribed to this channel'' message.

    Do I have to subscribe to Sky Sports or BT to get ESPN now?pretty ****ty for non premium UPC customers.


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    #709
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    closeline wrote: »
    Thinking of getting one of sky sports or setanta sports for the new season. Does this new deal for Setanta sports swing it in its favour? How much would it cost actually for both?
    What about only getting Sky Sports 1 and putting the few quid you save doing that to getting the Setanta pack? ... you would get almost all PL games on sky and all of them on Setanta/BT....


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    #710
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Not as bad as I expected... potentially with added subscriptions/improved advertisement revenue the rest of this current year could easily make up for losses on that small scale.

    There getting lot of business in the last few days as Sky users in Ireland want to watch Premiership Football games that Espn used to have
    With BT Sport getting the Rights to games and even more from next season
    Football fans in Ireland will have no choice but to subscribe to Setanta

    This Deal BT Sport is for 3 Years and Setanta have got the rights for Ireland from BT Sport

    Its after the 3 years are up and new deals are made we will have to see
    I expect Setanta are very happy right now and are playing hard ball with UPC to get the Channels


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    #711
    closeline
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭closeline


    irishfeen wrote: »
    What about only getting Sky Sports 1 and putting the few quid you save doing that to getting the Setanta pack? ... you would get almost all PL games on sky and all of them on Setanta/BT....

    I don't think it is possible to get just Sky Sports 1 is it?


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    #712
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    smellmepower wrote: »
    We have the digital max pack from UPC.Was watching the MLS game last night on ESPN no problem but now it gives the ''you are not subscribed to this channel'' message.

    Do I have to subscribe to Sky Sports or BT to get ESPN now?pretty ****ty for non premium UPC customers.

    From August 1St BT Sports have the rights
    Espn Europe was sold to BT Sport in April
    You Had Espn last night
    From Today you will have to subscribe to Setanta in Ireland as BT Sport have done a Deal with Setanta to broadcast there New Channels and Espn
    Setanta Pack on Sky is €19.99
    Setanta Ireland
    Setanta Sports 1

    BT Sport 1
    BT Sport 2
    Espn

    HD channels
    BT Sport 1
    BT Sport 2
    Espn

    UPC are still trying working a deal with Setanta The channels are on the UPC Epg so its will happen just don't know when its going live and how much


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    #713
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    paulboland wrote: »
    There getting lot of business in the last few days as Sky users in Ireland want to watch Premiership Football games that Espn used to have
    With BT Sport getting the Rights to games and even more from next season
    Football fans in Ireland will have no choice but to subscribe to Setanta

    This Deal BT Sport is for 3 Years and Setanta have got the rights for Ireland from BT Sport

    Its after the 3 years are up and new deals are made we will have to see
    I expect Setanta are very happy right now and are playing hard ball with UPC to get the Channels
    Hopefully the extra revenue will mean;

    1. The return of Setanta Sports 1 as a standalone channel.
    2. The launch of Setanta Ireland and Setanta Sports 1 in HD on all platforms.
    3. Take sky on and improve their current suite of right.
    4. Major Investment into Irish sport.

    I hope they actually do well and really make a go of it, its in their grasp now and its up to them to use this opportunity to their advantage.


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    #714
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    closeline wrote: »
    I don't think it is possible to get just Sky Sports 1 is it?
    I'm almost certain it is possible and is about €10-15 cheaper then the full sky sports package.


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    #715
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    closeline wrote: »
    I don't think it is possible to get just Sky Sports 1 is it?

    With Sky you can choose Sky sport 1 or Sky Sports 2
    Separate if you want

    But most customers choose Full Sky Sport Pack
    But this all changed now as before you got ESPN with sky as part of that pack
    From Today ESPN is only available ON sky if you subscribe to BT Sport in the UK/Northern Ireland

    In Rep Of Ireland BT sport have done a deal with Setanta to provide the channels
    All premierships Football Games that Espn had are now on BT Sport 1/2

    Espn America Closed Down
    Espn Classic Closed Down


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    #716
    Mr Cumulonimbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    irishfeen wrote: »
    it looks very bad for programs on Premier Sports to be blocked out in the UK

    Same for RoI viewers too? Looking at listings for Setanta Sports 1, blank screens for 4 hours on Saturday evening and again on Sunday afternoon since all of the All Ireland football quarter finals are UK only viewing.

    New subscribers mightn't be best pleased to see this on the first weekend?


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    #717
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »
    Same for RoI viewers too? Looking at listings for Setanta Sports 1, blank screens for 4 hours on Saturday evening and again on Sunday afternoon since all of the All Ireland football quarter finals are UK only viewing.

    New subscribers mighn't be best pleased to see this on the first weekend?
    I suppose the way Setanta see it is that at least the Irish are left with Setanta Ireland but in the UK when Premier Sports is blocked then that's it, a subscription broadcaster is effectively off air.


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    #718
    Minderbinder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    I had the unpleasant experience of dealing with Setanta before and will never do so again, even if it does mean having no access to Serie A. I'd rather find it online than give Setanta anything.


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    #719
    closeline
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭closeline


    paulboland wrote: »
    With Sky you can choose Sky sport 1 or Sky Sports 2
    Separate if you want

    But most customers choose Full Sky Sport Pack
    But this all changed now as before you got ESPN with sky as part of that pack
    From Today ESPN is only available ON sky if you subscribe to BT Sport in the UK/Northern Ireland

    In Rep Of Ireland BT sport have done a deal with Setanta to provide the channels
    All premierships Football Games that Espn had are now on BT Sport 1/2

    Espn America Closed Down
    Espn Classic Closed Down

    I know it is 35 for full sports package but how much for either do you know? It is some disgrace that you have to get an entertainment package if you want to get the sports


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    #720
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Minderbinder wrote: »
    I had the unpleasant experience of dealing with Setanta before and will never do so again, even if it does mean having no access to Serie A. I'd rather find it online than give Setanta anything.
    I have heard of people having problems in the past with Setanta but fair is fair.... any dealings I have ever had with them was good, never a bother cancelling direct debit or anything.


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    #721
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »
    Same for RoI viewers too? Looking at listings for Setanta Sports 1, blank screens for 4 hours on Saturday evening and again on Sunday afternoon since all of the All Ireland football quarter finals are UK only viewing.

    New subscribers mightn't be best pleased to see this on the first weekend?

    Yes But you can view the GAA games Live on RTE 2 AND RTE 2 HD on Saturday/Sunday
    and its free to watch


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