ATC Student Programme 2013 Warning post 195

anto89c156 · 15-06-2013 12:22PM

Hey just wondering did anyone get a callback that did the feast yesterday? Dont think i got through but just want to be sure.

ExtaticFob · 15-06-2013 12:31PM

anto89c156 wrote: »

Hey just wondering did anyone get a callback that did the feast yesterday? Dont think i got through but just want to be sure.

Hi, I was in there yesterday and got the call and email at about 4pm.

noahcian · 15-06-2013 03:26PM

hi. was there yesterday and got the call this morning at about 10am and the email came later

Giving it holly · 15-06-2013 05:11PM

Any idea of the numbers that went forward to the DART test? From what i heard that it will be less than 200!!

ochambers · 15-06-2013 05:47PM

Giving it holly wrote: »

Any idea of the numbers that went forward to the DART test? From what i heard that it will be less than 200!!

Where did you hear 200 got through? I'd be well pleased with myself if that was the case, found the FEAST very tough...

shano_88 · 15-06-2013 05:49PM

Anyone who done It today hear anything yet?

Mr Mike · 15-06-2013 10:22PM

@shano_88

Nothing yet for me, but I chatted to one of the organisers and she if you are not called by Monday evening you are not invited to DART stage.

Anyone get contacted from the 8am group yet?

Top Dog · 15-06-2013 11:31PM

Am I correct in saying that 365 were invited to the FEAST test?

I overheard that number today but wasn't sure if it was the amount invited to it, or if it was the number that would progress from it to the DART test.

@ shano - I got an email timestamped 3.22pm.

Giving it holly · 15-06-2013 11:39PM

Top Dog wrote: »

Am I correct in saying that 365 were invited to the FEAST test?

I overheard that number today but wasn't sure if it was the amount invited to it, or if it was the number that would progress from it to the DART test.

I heard the same on Wednesday, around 360 were invited for the FEAST and it would be roughly halved for the DART.
Check above at #247

ochambers does that answer your question??

Top Dog · 15-06-2013 11:43PM

4 no-show's at the last session, out of 40 invited.

Were there many no-shows at the other times?

Giving it holly · 16-06-2013 12:01AM

All turned up when i was there

adamski8 · 16-06-2013 12:19AM

Giving it holly wrote: »

All turned up when i was there

good few missing on thursday, maybe 6 or so

noahcian · 16-06-2013 01:07PM

does anyone know anything about the DART test?

Giving it holly · 16-06-2013 04:46PM

noahcian wrote: »

does anyone know anything about the DART test?

DART stands for dynamic air traffic control radar test. lol
Its basically a set of tests guiding aircraft around the screen through way points without colliding into the other aircraft.

ochambers · 16-06-2013 08:36PM

Giving it holly wrote: »

I heard the same on Wednesday, around 360 were invited for the FEAST and it would be roughly halved for the DART.
Check above at #247

ochambers does that answer your question??

Yes it does, thanks very much!

noahcian · 16-06-2013 09:26PM

Giving it holly wrote: »

DART stands for dynamic air traffic control radar test. lol
Its basically a set of tests guiding aircraft around the screen through way points without colliding into the other aircraft.

Thanks very much. Do u know is there any website to go to to get an idea of what we will be facing?

Giving it holly · 16-06-2013 09:36PM

noahcian wrote: »

Thanks very much. Do u know is there any website to go to to get an idea of what we will be facing?

Don't think so. There is very little info about the test so as not to give advantage to anyone. and everyone will be playing on a level field.
Good luck to all this coming week. If you get through the DART then it is said that you have what it take to be an ATC.

leveleye · 16-06-2013 10:01PM

Hey, got called for dart at 1000am wenesday. was curious if theres any earlier tests at 0800am like last time or saturday tests?

Top Dog · 16-06-2013 10:25PM

leveleye wrote: »

Hey, got called for dart at 1000am wenesday. was curious if theres any earlier tests at 0800am like last time or saturday tests?

DART is only being done Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday. No idea how many sessions or how long they last though. Doubt its less than 2 hours though, so would be very surprised if there was an 8am session.

As for people asking about DART - it was only introduced by EuroControl in 2011 so there's very little information about it available in the public domain.

Agree with Giving it Holly - makes for a more level playing field.

Giving it holly · 16-06-2013 10:27PM

leveleye wrote: »

Hey, got called for dart at 1000am wenesday. was curious if theres any earlier tests at 0800am like last time or saturday tests?

Do the math. Each test is 2.5 hours long so for a test to be held earlier plus time between each test, then an earlier test would be at 7am. Would be safe to say there is no earlier test. Mine is at 10 on Tuesday. How fast will they get back to us this time if we are successful?

Kayad · 16-06-2013 11:57PM

Just wondering if anybody that has sat the FEAST and DART tests with other ansp's heard anything back yet?

soontobepilot · 17-06-2013 01:00AM

Giving it holly wrote: »

I heard the same on Wednesday, around 360 were invited for the FEAST and it would be roughly halved for the DART.
Check above at #247

ochambers does that answer your question??

The fact that they were calling people and telling them they were through after the first test suggests they cant know how many will go through?

They could otherwise have reached their quota after the first few classes which seems a bit unfair.

Mr Mike · 17-06-2013 12:48PM

Hi,

Got email this morning saying I was not successful in the FEAST, seems I don't have what it takes for ATC. People generally only post when their are successful, so this is for 200 or so who did'nt make it.

Even if I got the position I don't know could I survive two years without an allowance.

Best of luck to all!

Muffinman1 · 17-06-2013 02:59PM

For what it worth I was talking to lad in the know and he said quality this year is as good as any. And said that even the bigwigs are shocked as its a bigger sacrifice than ever with the pay increases set to be frozen as money is drying up after investments in assets and there will be 0% chance of allowances as money is simply not there

soontobepilot · 18-06-2013 02:33PM

Anybody know what the pass/fail standard is? i.e how many conflicts/crashes are you allowed?

groundcontrol · 18-06-2013 05:24PM

Hi Folks. This is my first post on here. 2 Things,
1 I am doing the DART test tomorrow and am crapping myself as I have no idea what to expect.

2 In relation to the early talk about the money I was assuming that shift allowance was payable on top of the basic payment of €32,500 as was previously payable. Does anyone know if this is correct or not?

notharrypotter · 18-06-2013 06:11PM

Thebasic salary for an Air Traffic Controller starts at €32,500 rising over a 20point annual incremental scale to a current maximum of €88,540. Air Traffic Controllers also receive a shiftallowance for working unsocial hours. Salary is payable by credit transfer lessstandard PAYE, Government Levies and PRSI deductions (Class A).
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Extracted from the terms and conditions posted at start of process

notharrypotter · 18-06-2013 06:16PM

Article in Sunday Business Post

http://www.businesspost.ie/#!search/iaa

Moving control functions to Shannon.

Will this have an effect on where possible jobs will be?

noahcian · 18-06-2013 07:46PM

notharrypotter wrote: »

Article in Sunday Business Post

http://www.businesspost.ie/#!search/iaa

Moving control functions to Shannon.

Will this have an effect on where possible jobs will be?

that article won't open.

Giving it holly · 18-06-2013 10:18PM

Have to pay to read the article.

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