Season 3 Episode 10: Have NOT read the books

pixelburp · 10-06-2013 08:38PM

Hmmm, considering that in episode 9 we saw the ultimate price that's paid when somebody follows their heart, I couldn't help but feel Shae's decision not to leave Kings Landing effectively makes her a dead woman walking. GoT doesn't like giving couples a break, especially when it comes to romance, so I don't suspect this relationship will be any different. Happy to be proven wrong though!

Ditto Danaerys; she's now beloved of slaves everywhere, which surely make her a big target in some peoples' eyes. That said, her conquest of that city now leaves me a bit baffled: what is her play here? The desire to return to the Iron Throne seemed straightforward enough, pretty understandable & her march part of that goal, but liberating an entire city seems a bit odd. Does she intend bringing these thousands along with her to war? Seems unlikely, in which case why doesn't she simply make herself a new Kingdom where she is - she's certainly gone a long way to achieving that already. Hell, the weather'll be nicer anyway. Her motivations have become a little unclear - although perhaps she's just getting off on becoming this mythical Messiah figure.

And 10 episodes later, we finally find out who was torturing Theon - even if the clues were always there - and the ransom letter is sent. Ok, his sister's monologue about rescuing Theon was pretty bad-ass, but in any other show we'd be hopping up and down about that plot-strand's glacial pace. Feels like a broken record at this stage, but arrrghhh, put Theon out of his / our misery.

Speaking of things glacial though, I was surprised how quickly Stannis & chums decided to drop the whole 7 Kingdoms plot, in favour of fighting the White Walkers up North. Tbh, I was expecting episodes-worth of scepticism & denial. Instead, Stannis / Davos read one small note and decide to prepare for war. That seems a little sudden, no?

Disappointed there wasn't more involving Jamie's return to Kings Landing - that was an arc that deserved more screentime & stretching out, after everything that has happened him. Less Theon, more Jamie please.

As for the other token scenes dropped in - Arya & Hound team-up could be interesting, though one wonders where she goes now. Perhaps the Blackfish will figure somehow - good to hear he's alive & that there are still some allies left.

The Kings Landing scenes were a bit silly - I get that nobody respects Joffrey, but the guy is still in power & pretty psychotic (when not chewing the scenery with his ranting): the entire Council openly mocking him seemed bizarrely dangerous. The scene was redeemed by the Tywin / Tyrion confrontation though, stellar stuff & you'd hope Charles Dance gets some recognition come awards season.

Oh and funniest moment was when Poderick walked through the garden & received looks & giggles from passing girls. G'wan the Pod!

Pepe LeFrits · 10-06-2013 08:38PM

Saganist wrote: »

House Umber I think.

As featured in season 1

knucklehead6 · 10-06-2013 09:10PM

Ohhhh Joffrey just done f*cked up!!!

Grandpa Hassan · 10-06-2013 09:12PM

Charles Dance really is awesome in this show. The best cast character IMO

Saganist · 10-06-2013 09:15PM

Grandpa Hassan wrote: »

Charles Dance really is awesome in this show. The best cast character IMO

Dance is awesome. But Arya is still my favourite character :P

QueenOfLeon · 10-06-2013 09:25PM

I liked how the very last scenes of season 1 and 3 were similar, with Danaerys initially standing in the desert with a few Dothraki and baby dragons, and 2 seasons later with an army of thousands. She's hardly going to continue on with all the new slaves though, since only a certain portion of them would be any use in an army, so will she set up the city in a less slave-y fashion and carry on with whatever warriors they have?

Loved the Arya/Hound scenes but is there any mention of where they're headed? They really have nowhere to go...it'd be interesting if she wanted to head to Braavos and took the Hound with her! I'd love to see Jaqen H'ghar again, if only he hadn't changed his face :pac:

Once Jon Snow finds out Bran has gone North of the Wall, will he try to get him? I can't imagine that he'd let him wander around up there when he knows what's there.

I thought it was a great episode, still not over the shock of last week (:() but it makes for a lot of interesting scenes next season...Cersei's and Tywin's reaction to Jamie especially.

touts · 10-06-2013 09:27PM

Grandpa Hassan wrote: »

Charles Dance really is awesome in this show. The best cast character IMO

By far the best character. Almost every time we see him we get glimpses of his history. From his ruthless upbringing of his children yet his clear love of them by teaching Jamie to read when no one else could. His ruthless defence of his family from the elimination of the Rains to the current war yet he standups to the worst sadistic excesses of Joffrey.

If there is ever a spin off series I hope it is his story and they do it soon so that Charles Dance is still young enough to carry it off.

Brendan Filone · 10-06-2013 09:42PM

I loved the shot with Stannis in the foreground with Melisandre over one shoulder and Davos on the other. Great visuals.

LionelNashe · 10-06-2013 09:45PM

Daenaerys has picked herself up quite a useless army there from Junkai. Is that the city where all the slaves are bed-slaves? And all her existing soldiers are eunuchs. What a waste.

Sam has developsed a bit more backbone and confidence in the last two episodes

McGrath5 · 10-06-2013 09:49PM

Lovely final scene to cap of what has been another excellent season.

Is season 4 starting next April?

thiarfearr · 10-06-2013 10:03PM

pixelburp wrote: »

Ditto Danaerys; she's now beloved of slaves everywhere, which surely make her a big target in some peoples' eyes. That said, her conquest of that city now leaves me a bit baffled: what is her play here? The desire to return to the Iron Throne seemed straightforward enough, pretty understandable & her march part of that goal, but liberating an entire city seems a bit odd. Does she intend bringing these thousands along with her to war? Seems unlikely, in which case why doesn't she simply make herself a new Kingdom where she is - she's certainly gone a long way to achieving that already. Hell, the weather'll be nicer anyway. Her motivations have become a little unclear - although perhaps she's just getting off on becoming this mythical Messiah figure.

The Kings Landing scenes were a bit silly - I get that nobody respects Joffrey, but the guy is still in power & pretty psychotic (when not chewing the scenery with his ranting): the entire Council openly mocking him seemed bizarrely dangerous. The scene was redeemed by the Tywin / Tyrion confrontation though, stellar stuff & you'd hope Charles Dance gets some recognition come awards season.

Been wondering what Dany's plan is too, is she planning on attacking all the free cities before turning to Westeros? She's also presumably the only one capable of effectively dealing with the white walkers with her large army and fire.

I thought the Kingslanding stuff was good, wasn't the full small council making fun of Joffrey, only 2 of them, and both after Joffrey attacked them first (and both family).

I thought this was one of the better episodes in the series, seemed to go at a nice pace, only part I wasn't bothered with was the Sansa/Tyrion scene

garv123 · 10-06-2013 10:18PM

thiarfearr wrote: »

Been wondering what Dany's plan is too, is she planning on attacking all the free cities before turning to Westeros? She's also presumably the only one capable of effectively dealing with the white walkers with her large army and fire.

I thought the Kingslanding stuff was good, wasn't the full small council making fun of Joffrey, only 2 of them, and both after Joffrey attacked them first (and both family).

I thought this was one of the better episodes in the series, seemed to go at a nice pace, only part I wasn't bothered with was the Sansa/Tyrion scene

It seems sansa is beginning to like tyrion a bit going by the scene where they were outside walking.

I love his quote "it aint easy being drunk all the time"

Elessar · 10-06-2013 10:20PM

Terrific episode. Brilliant show.

I was quite surprised at Ygrette shooting Jon Snow though. Has love no value in this series?

lynski · 10-06-2013 10:26PM

Re-watching and it is better then I first thought. Some great lines.
Some good story tie-ups, and a great start for next season.
Was hoping for more drama, but good finish.

naughto · 10-06-2013 10:39PM

bennyineire · 10-06-2013 10:59PM

At least we know Sam isn't a complete berk, he had more than 1 dragon glass pieces

FortuneChip · 10-06-2013 11:10PM

Watched it again on Sky.
The variation of the main theme during that final scene is superb.

All in all, I'd say it was the strongest episode this season. No, it didn't have the shock of last weeks, but there was lots of story progression. Bolton & Frey cleared up any speculation on who was the mastermind of the Red Wedding. It's clear there's a lot of unhappy campers in the Lannister camp, which could lead to them implosion/explosion. I wouldn't be surprised to see Walder Frey press one of them for a favour at the wrong time, and find himself in an awfully dire situation.

Is Varys really this moral a character? I thought he was the weasel from season 1, but through all his interactions with other characters, he actually seems a person concerned with fate of the realms more than anything else, not that he'd necessarily stick his neck out to say so!

lynski · 10-06-2013 11:13PM

Ah ha Varys! in season 1 Arya is under the red keep chasing cats and sees varys talking to someone and they seem to be talking about Dany, but saying things are moving too fast here. is the spider the real power behind the throne?

Burt Macklin · 10-06-2013 11:22PM

Very strong episode I thought. Certainly did a good job of tying up all the loose ends and setting us up nicely for next year. I thought it was kind of strange to hide the identity of Theon's torturer and who was responsible for the sack of winterfell for a whole season, but I guess they didn't want to give too much away about the Boltons.

Been a great season overall, the nine month wait is going to be tough. Stannis and Davos vs the white walkers, Arya meeting up with the faceless man, Bran heading North, Yara vs The Boltons

And so our watch begins...

jimmy180sx · 10-06-2013 11:23PM

The sausage scene was hilarious

ArmaniJeanss · 10-06-2013 11:56PM

lynski wrote: »

Ah ha Varys! in season 1 Arya is under the red keep chasing cats and sees varys talking to someone and they seem to be talking about Dany, but saying things are moving too fast here. is the spider the real power behind the throne?

That was Illyrio Mopatis, who we saw early in Season 1 arranging Daenerys's wedding to Drogo and discussing with her brother Viserys how the peasants of Westeros were waiting for his triumphant return.

Season 1 screenshots, no spoilers.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110615190632/gameofthrones/images/6/60/Varys_and_Illyrio.jpg

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/2382/516420-viserys__daenerys_and_illyrio.jpg

ArmaniJeanss · 10-06-2013 11:58PM

Anachrony wrote: »

She's also ordered a shed load more people killed by assassin than most girls her age.

:pac: Brilliant.

pookiesboo · 11-06-2013 12:02AM

Anyone else just feeling a teensy bit sorry for Theon? No. just me? il get my coat

Meangadh · 11-06-2013 12:14AM

I was so shocked when Jon was hit with the three arrows but I loved the expression on Ygritte's face as she was doing it- it was an perfect mixture of love and hate and the exact same time. She loves Jon but hates that he has chosen to go without her- I just think that it was acted so well.

Obviously the wedding in last week's was so jaw-dropping and shocking but I was almost just as taken aback by the Ygritte and Jon scene in this episode. True love just doesn't seem to catch a break in this show at all

NinjaTruncs · 11-06-2013 12:18AM

NiallMH93 wrote: »

I thought it was kind of strange to hide the identity of Theon's torturer and who was responsible for the sack of winterfell for a whole season, but I guess they didn't want to give too much away about the Boltons.

They had to do it like that. If the audience had of known from the start of the series that it was the Bolton's who sacked Winterfell and were torturing Theon the Red Wedding and Bolton's betrayal would have been a lot less of a shock.

What I find interesting is that Tywin believes Bolton will act as Steward to Winterfell until Little Thyrion comes of age, if we learnt anything from Lord of the Rings it's that Stewards don't like to give up their power.

Conbhar · 11-06-2013 12:34AM

Korvanica wrote: »

Came here to post this. That bit was great. He was so happy.

Also Arya getting her first. Nice work Hopefully there will be many more. Now she has no reason not to find Jaqen ...

Valar Morghulis

"Valar Morghulis" Is that the words that Arya whispered to the coin? And if so does that mean that she's summoning Jaqen H'ghar?

DL Saint · 11-06-2013 02:06AM

Conbhar wrote: »

"Valar Morghulis" Is that the words that Arya whispered to the coin? And if so does that mean that she's summoning Jaqen H'ghar?

Yes that is the word, think it was said to mean "all men must die". Doubt she is summoning him because he told her to hand the coin to a man from Bravos and then say Valar Morghulis...

Turtyturd · 11-06-2013 02:08AM

Will have to rewatch this episode. Good to see Theon's captor finally confirmed although the actor who plays Bolton's Bastard is terrible, and like something from a sketch show, completely against the rest of the tone of the show. Also strange that Davos had so little belief in Melissandre's magic, yet was quick to believe in the happening's beyond the wall.

jebidiah · 11-06-2013 02:46AM

pookiesboo wrote: »

Anyone else just feeling a teensy bit sorry for Theon? No. just me? il get my coat

I think that's the point. People seem to be complaining about his scenes having no point, dragging on, and just wanting them to end. Wishing (who we now know is) Ramsey (but Theon doesn't?) would just kill him.

That's what theon is feeling. Who is this person, why am I here? Why is he doing these awful things, I've been here for so long, will it ever end? Just kill me, you've taken my manhood, kill me please.

And Ramsey just keeps ****ing with him. He has taken away his dignity, his manhood, his cockiness (sorry

) and now his name.

It's torture, it's supposed to be drawn-out and uncomfortable. I'm don't like watching it but it makes sense to put it in. I'm sure we will be given a reason as to why it's happening, but for now I think we are supposed to feel frustrated and angry that it all seems like its for nothing. Just like the character feels.

Sorry for the rant!

I thought it was a good episode. Sets up next season well. Ending scene was a bit too cheesey to have the feeling of hopefullness they were aiming for I think!

only gripe was the "secret gate" through the wall. It looked like a massive tunnel with a huge opening!

Degag · 11-06-2013 02:49AM

Conbhar wrote: »

"Valar Morghulis" Is that the words that Arya whispered to the coin? And if so does that mean that she's summoning Jaqen H'ghar?

No, not that she's summoning him. The guy thats fighting for Dany said the same thing before he beheaded the other two dudes. Seems to be some kind of saying for impeeding death.

Solid episode but it was trying to tie up too many storylines. Great scenes with Tywin and Arya and The Hound.

Season 3 Episode 10: Have NOT read the books

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