Season 3: Episode 6 * Have NOT read the books *MOD Note Post 1

SherlockWatson · 06-05-2013 08:42AM #1

Another enjoyable episode, interesting scenes with melisandre(sp?) and Thoros.

First off, ****ing hell Joffreys a sick ****, as is Mr torture boy with Theon, making him beg to cut off his finger!

MOD NOTE

Usual things apply, no book discussion etc

Kilkenny14 · 06-05-2013 10:34AM

Everytime I think Joffrey can't get more evil, he goes and does something worse; poor Ros

The scene with Tywin and Oleanna was the highlight for me, with her admitting her grandson is “a sword-swallower through and through! to admitting Tywin lives up to his reputation.

Oh and I laughed at "The laws of my fist are about to compel your teeth."

thomond2006 · 06-05-2013 11:28AM

Who are the Reeds exactly? I'm not really following that storyline with Bran and why they are involved.

Rosy Posy · 06-05-2013 12:20PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Who are the Reeds exactly? I'm not really following that storyline with Bran and why they are involved.

They're children of a lord who fought with Ned Stark in the rebellion. I think that the biggest connection is that both Jojen and Bran are wargs and Jojen has seen Bran in his visions and wants to help him harness his powers.

Rosy Posy · 06-05-2013 12:42PM

I'm enjoying the development of the relationship between Ygritte and Jon Snow. It was nice to see him return the favour and save her life for a change, especially after Thormund had a dig at him before they started out. Orell is a pr!ck, he really seems to hate Jon, and it looks like the feeling is mutual.

The opening scene gave me the heebiejeebies, kept expecting White Walkers to pop out of a bush. I really want Sam and Gilly to make it although it doesn't look like they'll find much safety at Castle Black. Sam is a great character- so gormless in some ways but really smart in others. I bet there's some significance to the black dagger he found.

I wonder what Melisandre is going to do with Gendry- my guess is either sacrifice him or ride him and make another smoke baby.

Great scene with Tywin and Oleyna...so many classic lines. She's such an old battle ax- one of my favourite characters at the moment.

Really got a sense of how dangerous and evil Baelish is- poor Sansa is definitely going to run away with him and probably end up as his wife. She would have been better off with Tyrion.

And of course, just in case we'd forgotten, a little reminder that Joffery truly is the most sadistic fcuker that ever lived. Poor Ros!

Duckworth_Luas · 06-05-2013 01:08PM

Rosy Posy wrote: »

Orell is a pr!ck

MadYaker · 06-05-2013 01:22PM

I'm surprised Jon Snow didn't chop is head off as soon as they got to the top.

It seems unlikely to me that the Tyrells will go through with this royal marriage at the moment. They already know jeoffrey is a bit of a sicko but if they find out what he did to that hooker theres gonna be trouble.

DerekDGoldfish · 06-05-2013 01:36PM

Rosy Posy wrote: »

I'm enjoying the development of the relationship between Ygritte and Jon Snow. It was nice to see him return the favour and save her life for a change, especially after Thormund had a dig at him before they started out. Orell is a pr!ck, he really seems to hate Jon, and it looks like the feeling is mutual.

The opening scene gave me the heebiejeebies, kept expecting White Walkers to pop out of a bush. I really want Sam and Gilly to make it although it doesn't look like they'll find much safety at Castle Black. Sam is a great character- so gormless in some ways but really smart in others. I bet there's some significance to the black dagger he found.

I wonder what Melisandre is going to do with Gendry- my guess is either sacrifice him or ride him and make another smoke baby.

Great scene with Tywin and Oleyna...so many classic lines. She's such an old battle ax- one of my favourite characters at the moment.

Really got a sense of how dangerous and evil Baelish is- poor Sansa is definitely going to run away with him and probably end up as his wife. She would have been better off with Tyrion.

And of course, just in case we'd forgotten, a little reminder that Joffery truly is the most sadistic fcuker that ever lived. Poor Ros!

Both, death by snu-snu, there are worse ways to go I suppose.

grizzly · 06-05-2013 02:15PM

Rosy Posy wrote: »

I bet there's some significance to the black dagger he found.

I've not read any of the books, but my guess is that it has some magical property that is fatal to dragons.

Dempsey · 06-05-2013 03:31PM

A fairly boring episode tbh

Joffrey should have been smothered at birth, a truly despicable character. Littlefinger isnt far behind him.

royster999 · 06-05-2013 03:46PM

How did Melisandre know about Gendry?

heebusjeebus · 06-05-2013 03:55PM

royster999 wrote: »

How did Melisandre know about Gendry?

The Lord of light told her.

DeepBlue · 06-05-2013 04:42PM

At this rate Theon will still be stuck on that cross at the end of this season and we'll be none the wiser as to who's holding him or why. :rolleyes: Daenerys has raised an army and sacked a city in the same amount of time so they're really dragging his story out. I wouldn't mind but I'm not even that interested in it.

Not really sure why Sansa was crying at the end. She escaped being carted off by Littlefinger and avoided marrying the gay guy. Ok she ends up with Tyrion but at least he's about the only one in King's Landing that actually cares about her. It could be worse. :pac:

Hyzepher · 06-05-2013 04:54PM

Would it not have been easier to go through the wall rather than over it - didn't look too thick?

MadYaker · 06-05-2013 05:00PM

Sansa didn't know Loras was gay, she just saw him as the handsome knight who was go to take her away to a blissful paradise far from all the misery at kings landing. I doubt she's overjoyed about marrying tyrion but she's better off with him than with joeffrey. Seems to me joeffrey will be going the same way as the mad king. I normally find littlefinger annoying but I thought his monologue at the end about chaos being a ladder was great, it really revealed his determined ambition.

No progression of daenarys in this episode which is a pity. They are really struggling to cram all those story lines into one episode.

royster999 · 06-05-2013 05:51PM

Where is Robbs ally, Lord Jon Umber?Cant remember seeing him in ages.

thomond2006 · 06-05-2013 05:59PM

MadYaker wrote: »

No progression of daenarys in this episode which is a pity. They are really struggling to cram all those story lines into one episode.

The show feels like a collection of mini-stories at the moment, where in every episode we get a trickle of progresssion. Hopefully some will converge soon.

PhiloCypher · 06-05-2013 06:01PM

royster999 wrote: »

Where is Robbs ally, Lord Jon Umber?Cant remember seeing him in ages.

Roose gets more page time then Umber in the books so they obviously decided to have him at the forefront and fill the role umber did in the first season as Robbs chief advisor.

Also the actor who played Umber had his ear bitten off in an altercation at a travel lodge so he's probably in no fit state.

Ms. Captain M · 06-05-2013 06:04PM

I thought Frey's terms would have been a bit harsher, I remember when Robb's mother was negotiating with him in season 1 and she put it very clearly to Robb that he's not a man to cross.

Did I miss something at the end, when Littlefinger and Varys were saying something about Aegon's (I think) swords, and it all being a lie. I didn't quite follow that.

royster999 · 06-05-2013 06:04PM

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Roose gets more page time then Umber in the books so they obviously decided to have him at the forefront and fill the role umber did in the first season as Robbs chief advisor.

Also the actor who played Umber had his ear bitten off in an altercation at a travel lodge so he's probably in no fit state.

Jeez, his character had his fingers bitten off by the Direwolf.
In a way life imitiating art....

mikemac1 · 06-05-2013 06:07PM

I'm useless with names!

The chubby lad and the girl & her new born got a few minutes.

I've no idea how important they will be. A few days walk back to the Wall but Mance Raydar and his followers are already ahead of them.

The spear head looks interesting. Might be relevant later but I don't know how

royster999 · 06-05-2013 06:21PM

Cersei and Tyrion unlikely allies in this episode.
I think Tywin better watch his back

Anachrony · 06-05-2013 06:26PM

DeepBlue wrote: »

Not really sure why Sansa was crying at the end. She escaped being carted off by Littlefinger and avoided marrying the gay guy.

She's had a thing for Loras since the tournament in season 1. He's her fantasy husband, and unlike everyone else in King's Landing she has no clue that he's gay. As far as she knows, Littlefinger is a loyal, trustworthy friend of the family who will keep her safe. She's disgusted by Tyrion. Everyone in Westeros treats him like crap because of his height, and Sansa is at least as superficial about appearances as anyone.

KerranJast · 06-05-2013 07:47PM

He's also a Lannister who's nephew is responsible for her father's death and who's family have been keeping her hostage.

Rosy Posy · 06-05-2013 08:10PM

DeepBlue wrote: »

Not really sure why Sansa was crying at the end. She escaped being carted off by Littlefinger and avoided marrying the gay guy. Ok she ends up with Tyrion but at least he's about the only one in King's Landing that actually cares about her. It could be worse. :pac:

I agree but she is a naive superficial teenager. I think it's interesting how she changes her hair depending on which family she looks up to/is betrothed to. She has no idea that Loras is gay, despite his excessive interest in trimmings and fabric. She also thought that there was a chance that the Starks and the Lannisters/Tyrells might call a truce to celebrate her wedding. She's utterly self absorbed and also a poor judge of character, which will be her downfall when she ends up married to Baelish.

DL Saint · 06-05-2013 08:21PM

I actually really enjoyed this episode. More interesting character development. We got to hear about Thoros' experience with the Lord of Light, not to mention why he was sent to Westeros. The relationship between Jon and Ygritte is growing, she can see right through his ulterior motives but doesn't care as long as he keeps her safe. Not much with Sam and Gilly just that small scene. I'm going to guess that the Dragonglass is something that can kill the White-Walkers and that's why it may become significant. That scene with Vary's and Littlefinger was just great, so much insight into Baelish's true characteristics.

MadYaker · 06-05-2013 09:11PM

Anachrony wrote: »

She's had a thing for Loras since the tournament in season 1. He's her fantasy husband, and unlike everyone else in King's Landing she has no clue that he's gay. As far as she knows, Littlefinger is a loyal, trustworthy friend of the family who will keep her safe. She's disgusted by Tyrion. Everyone in Westeros treats him like crap because of his height, and Sansa is at least as superficial about appearances as anyone.

I doubt she is disgusted by Tyrion, he is one of the few people who has been nice to her at Kings Landing. At the moment she is basically a tool that the lanisters are using to consolidate as much power as possible, she is in a crappy situation but at least she isn't strapped to a bed post riddled with crossbow bolts.....

iamanengine · 06-05-2013 10:38PM

What was that whole exchange between Littlefinger and Varys in regards to Aegon and something being a lie? Or are we not meant to know?

Littlefinger is looking really dangerous at this stage. Poor Ros

Granny Tyrell is looking like a right badass!

Anachrony · 06-05-2013 11:15PM

MadYaker wrote: »

I doubt she is disgusted by Tyrion, he is one of the few people who has been nice to her at Kings Landing.

That assumes that she's a good judge of character, which she's not, and has an enlightened, modern attitude about the non-relationship between appearance and character, which does not appear to be the case.

ceegee · 06-05-2013 11:47PM

iamanengine wrote: »

What was that whole exchange between Littlefinger and Varys in regards to Aegon and something being a lie? Or are we not meant to know?

Littlefinger is looking really dangerous at this stage. Poor Ros

Granny Tyrell is looking like a right badass!

The aegon bit was about how the iron throne is made of 1000 swords of people he defeated. Littlefinger points out theres actually less than 200. The point of it was that what people believe to be true is more important than the actual truth, likewise the realm is only important because everyone believes it to be important that the 7 kingdoms stay united etc

AlmightyCushion · 07-05-2013 12:57AM

Interesting to see the dragonglass show up again. When they discovered it last season it seemed like a pretty big deal and then they never mentioned it again. Given that they actually do show it and bring it up, it's clear it's important. Given that it was buried north of the wall, it's probably good at taking down the white walkers.

When the witch said Arya was going to shut their eyes for good, I take it we're meant to think it's Joffrey, Cersie and Tywin she was talking about. Any one know if their eye colours match up to what she said? It could be a red herring and Arya actually kills a bunch of other people instead.

Season 3: Episode 6 * Have NOT read the books *MOD Note Post 1

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