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The Academies

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  • #482
    Creeby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Creeby


    Has Mark Roche really been looked over by all these clubs? I know he had some ties with Connacht and Leinster in the past but surely an academy place is on the cards somewhere? I saw him play for Landsdowne firsts against Clontarf and he played a blinder getting mom in the end. Also won an under 21s championship with Landsdowne this year. Surely someone will snap him up?


  • #483
    RobbieRuns
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    Thought that Connacht had taken Roche on?


  • #484
    FellasFellas
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    RobbieRuns wrote: »
    Thought that Connacht had taken Roche on?

    He's played Eagles and 20's over there, nothing official yet.


  • #485
    opinionatedfan
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    lurtz wrote: »
    rory o'loughlin and andy marks are quality talents

    O'Loughlin's big chance is next season with the 20's.

    Marks is still in school, pretty talented kid but failed to make the schools side this year.

    Fergal Cleary has impressed at 13 when he played there for the schools side.


  • #486
    backgreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭backgreen


    FellasFellas wrote: »
    He's played Eagles and 20's over there, nothing official yet.
    yea ..played with the eagles his defence game needs to be tidied up...


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  • #487
    opinionatedfan
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    Rumored lads to be joining the academies.

    Munster
    Niall Horan(LHP, 20, Shannon/Crescent Comprehensive)
    Sean McCarthy(Lock, 20, Shannon/Rockwell)
    Darren O'Shea(Lock, 21, Dolphin/Crosshaven RFC)
    John Madigan(Lock, 19, Dolphin/Charleville)
    Rory Scannell(Centre, 20, Dolphin/PBC Cork)
    David Johnstone(Back 3, 19, UL Bohs/Rockwell)

    Leinster
    Peter Dooley(LHP, 18, Landsdowne/Birr)
    Ross Molony(Lock, 19, St. Michaels)
    Steve Crosbie(Flyhalf, 20, Old Belvedere/St.Gerrards)
    Tom Daly(Centre, 20, Landsdowne/Carlow)
    Adam Byrne(Centre/Wing, 18, UCD/Naas)
    Billy Dardis(Fullback, 18, Terenure)

    Connacht
    Sean O'Brien(Lock, 19, Roscrea)
    Rort Parata(Centre, 19, Rockwell)
    Saba Meunargia (THP, 19, Marist College)
    Jacob Walshe(LHP, 19, Roscrea)
    James Connolly(Backrow, ?, IT Carlow RFC)

    Ulster


  • #488
    Bogota
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    Pick of the bunch: Adam Byrne


  • #489
    Quint2010
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    Bogota wrote: »
    Pick of the bunch: Adam Byrne

    Yes considering he's already made an appearance for Leinster A and he's very physically developed. But I think Dardis could be equally as good if not better.


  • #490
    irishbucsfan
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    You can add Parata to Connacht, right?


  • #491
    lurtz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭lurtz


    Jacob Walshe,Saba and James Connolly all meant to be going into Connacht academy


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  • #492
    Bogota
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Yes considering he's already made an appearance for Leinster A and he's very physically developed. But I think Dardis could be equally as good if not better.


    Hes already made an appearance for the Leinster senior team!

    Came on for last few minutes in a Rabo game, got one touch of the ball and beat four defenders :eek:


  • #493
    jamiedav2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    Bogota wrote: »
    Hes already made an appearance for the Leinster senior team!

    Came on for last few minutes in a Rabo game, got one touch of the ball and beat four defenders :eek:

    Ah come on now, let's not go exaggerating!


  • #494
    .ak
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    jamiedav2011 wrote: »
    Ah come on now, let's not go exaggerating!

    He beat 2 actually, but those facts have no place on these boards. BTW I'm renaming the forum to 'The Adam Byrne Rugby Forum'.


  • #495
    .ak
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    Looking forward to seeing Dardis in blue actually...


  • #496
    Hype710
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    The only reason Adam Byrne hasn't been included in the 20s squad is because he's waiting for a call up from Gatland.


  • #497
    pajunior
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    Hype710 wrote: »
    The only reason Adam Byrne hasn't been included in the 20s squad is because he's waiting for a call up from Gatland.

    Matching username, nice!


  • #498
    Hagz
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    Is UCD's Barry Daly involved in the sub Academy. The guy seems to be tearing it up for UCD.


  • #499
    backgreen
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Is UCD's Barry Daly involved in the sub Academy. The guy seems to be tearing it up for UCD.
    he was really good in the game v shannon yesterday


  • #500
    thebaz
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    backgreen wrote: »
    he was really good in the game v shannon yesterday

    was good in the u20's WC too, last year - surprised he hasnt been picked up


  • #501
    bamboozle
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    thebaz wrote: »
    was good in the u20's WC too, last year - surprised he hasnt been picked up
    he was offered Munster academy at start of this season


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  • #502
    CGD
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    bamboozle wrote: »
    he was offered Munster academy at start of this season

    Think he went there for about a week and left!


  • #503
    bamboozle
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    CGD wrote: »
    Think he went there for about a week and left!
    des merry went up to have a look at the ulster academy also at start of the season, no sign of him in Clontarf during latter half of this season, hope he hasn't walked away from the game.


  • #504
    lurtz
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    bamboozle wrote: »
    des merry went up to have a look at the ulster academy also at start of the season, no sign of him in Clontarf during latter half of this season, hope he hasn't walked away from the game.

    yeah heard he turned it down,shame cos hes a great player


  • #505
    lurtz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭lurtz


    would really hope Barry Daly gets picked up soon. unbelievable talent and would add much to any of the 4 provinces squads


  • #506
    backgreen
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    lurtz wrote: »
    would really hope Barry Daly gets picked up soon. unbelievable talent and would add much to any of the 4 provinces squads
    would make a great 7s player...


  • #507
    Morf
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    backgreen wrote: »
    would make a great 7s player...

    If he goes abroad that is.

    Connacht will soon have equal or near equal funding (so I hear).

    Doing that and setting up a 7s team isn't within the financial means of the IRFU.


  • #508
    lurtz
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    Morf wrote: »
    If he goes abroad that is.

    Connacht will soon have equal or near equal funding (so I hear).

    Doing that and setting up a 7s team isn't within the financial means of the IRFU.

    I dont see why it isn't though,New Zealand support a hell of a lot more teams than we do

    a national men and womens team, a maori team, a heartland XV,u20s, u18s, 4 super rugby franchises with development teams, 14 fully professional ITM cup teams with academies, as well as full time men and womens sevens competing on the world series


  • #509
    RobbieRuns
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    lurtz wrote: »
    I dont see why it isn't though,New Zealand support a hell of a lot more teams than we do

    a national men and womens team, a maori team, a heartland XV,u20s, u18s, 4 super rugby franchises with development teams, 14 fully professional ITM cup teams with academies, as well as full time men and womens sevens competing on the world series

    Very good points Lurtz, how can NZ support all those teams, I know that they will sell a few more jersey's than other teams, but we don't have half the number of teams that they do?

    Great to hear that Connacht is going to get equal funding.


  • #510
    backgreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭backgreen


    looking at the AIL this year with lansdowne/ucd etc some of these lads would make super 7s players and i'am sure would jump at being contracted to play the IRB world circuit..not all are going to make the pro 15s game and this will create other opportunities for them as the 7s gets BIGGER and BIGGER and will be a more global game than 15s


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  • #511
    Superbus
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    lurtz wrote: »
    I dont see why it isn't though,New Zealand support a hell of a lot more teams than we do

    a national men and womens team, a maori team, a heartland XV,u20s, u18s, 4 super rugby franchises with development teams, 14 fully professional ITM cup teams with academies, as well as full time men and womens sevens competing on the world series

    Ireland would probably be able to have a similar setup if there was no GAA or soccer or any other diversions to speak of. NZ is a special case with rugby, can't really compare.


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