Gerry Adams on RTE PrimeTime--29-05-13

duinegorm · 30-04-2013 12:58am

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Smart never came into it, the southern clowns lay back and tolerated a sectarian war in the northern counties, and allowed the brits to carry out terror attacks in Dublin and Monaghan, and several other places. What did the sheeple of our so called republic do, cowered down and took it up the butt. When our overlords seen how cowardly some of us were they decided to ride us again, such is the situation we now find ourselves in. We are cowards, and denigrate those who stood up for their rights, and would not lay down for the ba$tards.
Get off your ass and stand up and be counted, Your kids will if you do not have the guts.

How are you showing you have guts? Tell us what we should be doing and what example you are setting?

Amronoc · 30-04-2013 12:59am

Havent seen this, nor will I bother

Cant stand that tít miriam, Gerry Adams could have slaughtered a whole village, yet if she made him admit it, I wouldnt even care

Senna · 30-04-2013 12:59am

I miss the days when Gerry and co weren't allow speak on TV.

Happyman42 · 30-04-2013 1:00am

Sully wrote: »

Very one sided argument slamming Miriam here which is usually an indication we are in the pleasure of Sinn Fein supporters.

Its not the first time Sinn Fein top blokes have been pushed hard on the subject of IRA Membership and Leadership nor will it be the last until they just be honest with the people and have some cop on. Sinn Fein need to move on from their past and not speak from two sides of their mouth on the issues surrounding the IRA. That and get more realistic policies and not suggest you will be implementing different policies down South than up North (implementing austerity which apparently doesn't work here but works fine up North).

Is it any wonder why people are favouring Fianna Fail over Sinn Fein? They have completely failed to make significant gains and Gerry is a major part of their problem and as long as he is representing them and not moving away from the past, a real shift wont happen for their party.

They'll wipe the floor with Labour come the next election. The deluded people went with the safe bet last time, and we kno how that worked out.

Gatling · 30-04-2013 1:01am

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Smart never came into it, the southern clowns lay back and tolerated a sectarian war in the northern counties, and allowed the brits to carry out terror attacks in Dublin and Monaghan, and several other places. What did the sheeple of our so called republic do, cowered down and took it up the butt. When our overlords seen how cowardly some of us were they decided to ride us again, such is the situation we now find ourselves in. We are cowards, and denigrate those who stood up for their rights, and would not lay down for the ba$tards.
Get off your ass and stand up and be counted, Your kids will if you do not have the guts.

OK let's who built the north from fields to towns and cities ohhhhh I know ,I know
The British ,
who built the roads?
The British,
Who built the hospital's ,schools ,local authority housing
The British
Who pays those idiots who proclaim no surrender on both sides social welfare because there so inbreed retarded they have no idea why they hate each other
The british ,
So not a a lot to complain about what they did is there

paddy147 · 30-04-2013 1:03am

Sully wrote: »

Very one sided argument slamming Miriam here which is usually an indication we are in the pleasure of Sinn Fein supporters.

Its not the first time Sinn Fein top blokes have been pushed hard on the subject of IRA Membership and Leadership nor will it be the last until they just be honest with the people and have some cop on. Sinn Fein need to move on from their past and not speak from two sides of their mouth on the issues surrounding the IRA. That and get more realistic policies and not suggest you will be implementing different policies down South than up North (implementing austerity which apparently doesn't work here but works fine up North).

Is it any wonder why people are favouring Fianna Fail over Sinn Fein? They have completely failed to make significant gains and Gerry is a major part of their problem and as long as he is representing them and not moving away from the past, a real shift wont happen for their party.

In fairness to Mr Adams,anytime he stands up in Leinster House and trys to ask FG/labour a question about their policies and cutting into peoples money,its FG and Labour who constantly avoid the question and turn it all back onto the past and what Mr Adams may or may not have done up North.

FG/Labour can never talk about their policies,they allways just slagg off Mr Adams and shyte on and on about The North and what Mr Adams did up there in the past.

People are fed up with that carry on now.

Oh and Im posting this as a person who voted Mr Kenny into power,and not as a SF supporter either.

Now after seeing what Kenny and Gilmore has done and all the lies they have told,Im sorry that I did vote for FG.

Keep the Germans,bondholders and the top bankers all nice happy and rich,and meantime savage the people of Ireland in the process.

Happyman42 · 30-04-2013 1:04am

Gatling wrote: »

OK let's who built the north from fields to towns and cities ohhhhh I know ,I know
The British ,
who built the roads?
The British,
Who built the hospital's ,schools ,local authority housing
The British
Who pays those idiots who proclaim no surrender on both sides social welfare because there so inbreed retarded they have no idea why they hate each other
The british ,
So not a a lot to complain about what they did is there

Who taught you how to type? I'd look for my money back.

Busted Flat. · 30-04-2013 1:04am

duinegorm wrote: »

How are you showing you have guts? Tell us what we should be doing and what example you are setting?

If you have to ask that question, just hand the keys of your house back to the bank, let them sell it at a loss, then you pay back the bank the ballance, for the rest of your life, for the house you do not own. Your contribution will help to pay the largess to Richie Boucher, and his fellow travelers. Enjoy.

duinegorm · 30-04-2013 1:05am

Gatling wrote: »

OK let's who built the north from fields to towns and cities ohhhhh I know ,I know
The British ,
who built the roads?
The British,
Who built the hospital's ,schools ,local authority housing
The British
Who pays those idiots who proclaim no surrender on both sides social welfare because there so inbreed retarded they have no idea why they hate each other
The british ,
So not a a lot to complain about what they did is there

Are the British paying people social welfare on the basis that they fcuked their mother and are mentally challenged?

K-9 · 30-04-2013 1:06am

Dotsey wrote: »

Adams has always been an out and out politician. I believe he wasn't in the IRA but that's not to say as a republican leader he didn't have influence over them, I seriously doubt he was involved in any military matters but politically he influenced them a great deal towards the direction in which they headed. The more intelligent former IRA members have followed him into Sinn Fein like McGuinness, Doherty, Kelly, Ferris, Ellis etc whereas the others who couldn't grasp the political game like his accusers Hughes and Price plus the dissidents still can't emerge from the conflict.

I'd think you'd be very naive about how SF and the IRA would have been intrinsically linked back in 71/72, to seriously doubt he wasn't involved in some way with military matters. To me he was and is an astute politician, which makes me doubt his words, or at least suggests to me he is being economical with the truth when it suits. The IRA recognised this when specifically asking for his release from internment in 72 to have talks with the British Government, from then on he was the political figure head and to be protected at all costs.

Yamanoto · 30-04-2013 1:06am

Senna wrote: »

I miss the days when Gerry and co weren't allow speak on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6UhXivPyw4

Gatling · 30-04-2013 1:06am

Happyman42 wrote: »

Who taught you how to type? I'd look for my money back.

Should I use txt speak to make it easier for or will pictures help

Amronoc · 30-04-2013 1:06am

Jesus i dont know what i hate more, politics, or boring fcuks talking about politics!

This is ah, can we not make fun of gerrys beard or miriams nice arshe?

duinegorm · 30-04-2013 1:07am

Busted Flat. wrote: »

If you have to ask that question, just hand the keys of your house back to the bank, let them sell it at a loss, then you pay back the bank the ballance, for the rest of your life, for the house you do not own. Your contribution will help to pay the largess to Richie Boucher, and his fellow travelers. Enjoy.

I own my house. I bought what I could afford. I owe nobody anything.

What has that got to do with anything about your previous post and how does that answer my questions?

Are you drunk?

paddy147 · 30-04-2013 1:07am

Yamanoto wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6UhXivPyw4

Thats just funny as fcuk.:D:D:D

Reminds me of the 98fm toll trolls...M and 50 when they went up North.:D

Chips Lovell · 30-04-2013 1:08am

It's like the Sinn Fein Ard Fheis in here.

duinegorm · 30-04-2013 1:08am

Gatling wrote: »

Should I use txt speak to make it easier for or will pictures help

Making the slightest bit of sense would help. Read your own post before you hit that button.

ONeill2013 · 30-04-2013 1:09am

Gatling wrote: »

OK let's who built the north from fields to towns and cities ohhhhh I know ,I know
The British ,
who built the roads?
The British,
Who built the hospital's ,schools ,local authority housing
The British
Who pays those idiots who proclaim no surrender on both sides social welfare because there so inbreed retarded they have no idea why they hate each other
The british ,
So not a a lot to complain about what they did is there

that's why we want to stay in the UK

Gatling · 30-04-2013 1:09am

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

It's like the Sinn Fein Ard Fheis in here.

Sniper at work :O

Busted Flat. · 30-04-2013 1:09am

Gatling wrote: »

OK let's who built the north from fields to towns and cities ohhhhh I know ,I know
The British ,
who built the roads?
The British,
Who built the hospital's ,schools ,local authority housing
The British
Who pays those idiots who proclaim no surrender on both sides social welfare because there so inbreed retarded they have no idea why they hate each other
The british ,
So not a a lot to complain about what they did is there

I was looking at the long range weather for the May weekend it is not looking good. Do you think it will improve. Or is that to much for you to understand.

Happyman42 · 30-04-2013 1:10am

K-9 wrote: »

I'd think you'd be very naive about how SF and the IRA would have been intrinsically linked back in 71/72, to seriously doubt he wasn't involved in some way with military matters. To me he was and is an astute politician, which makes me doubt his words, or at least suggests to me he is being economical with the truth when it suits. The IRA recognised this when specifically asking for his release from internment in 72 to have talks with the British Government, from then on he was the political figure head and to be protected at all costs.

Where is the evidence, why wasn't he arrested and tried when the British and Irish where doing their level best to silence SF?
Produce solid evidence or give it up.
And so what if he was in the IRA, what possible difference does it make in the greater scheme of things?

Deedsie · 30-04-2013 1:11am

Sully wrote: »

Very one sided argument slamming Miriam here which is usually an indication we are in the pleasure of Sinn Fein supporters.

Its not the first time Sinn Fein top blokes have been pushed hard on the subject of IRA Membership and Leadership nor will it be the last until they just be honest with the people and have some cop on. Sinn Fein need to move on from their past and not speak from two sides of their mouth on the issues surrounding the IRA. That and get more realistic policies and not suggest you will be implementing different policies down South than up North (implementing austerity which apparently doesn't work here but works fine up North).

Is it any wonder why people are favouring Fianna Fail over Sinn Fein? They have completely failed to make significant gains and Gerry is a major part of their problem and as long as he is representing them and not moving away from the past, a real shift wont happen for their party.

Well to be fair they only removed their abstentionist policies in the republic in 86' they got their first TD in fifty years in 1997...

They now have 17 members of the Oireachtas. So they basically increase in an Oireachtas member by 1 each year. Steady progress...

Fred Cohen · 30-04-2013 1:12am

On a serious note, how would you compare this interview with Brian Dobsons interview with Bertie Ahern?

Gatling · 30-04-2013 1:13am

Busted Flat. wrote: »

I was looking at the long range weather for the May weekend it is not looking good. Do you think it will improve. Or is that to much for you to understand.

I've a dirty weekend planned with a hot redhead ,

I'd say a lot of people will be working and enjoying there weekend

Busted Flat. · 30-04-2013 1:21am

Gatling wrote: »

I've a dirty weekend planned with a hot redhead ,

I'd say a lot of people will be working and enjoying there weekend

Be careful redheads are temperamental, you would enjoy the weekend better with a pint and a small one, I know I have the teeshirt.

K-9 · 30-04-2013 1:23am

Happyman42 wrote: »

Where is the evidence, why wasn't he arrested and tried when the British and Irish where doing their level best to silence SF?
Produce solid evidence or give it up.

It's my opinion, I'm just giving it as Dotsey gave hers. She's entitled to hers, I'm entitled to mine, people have opinions, its quite a common thing.

And so what if he was in the IRA, what possible difference does it make in the greater scheme of things?

The fragility of the peace process as you put it one of your own posts. Unless you don't think the peace process is fragile, contradicting what you earlier posted yourself?

Gatling · 30-04-2013 1:23am

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Be careful redheads are temperamental, you would enjoy the weekend better with a pint and a small one, I know I have the teeshirt.

Temperamental down right violent more like

ONeill2013 · 30-04-2013 1:34am

paddy147 wrote: »

Thats just funny as fcuk.:D:D:D

Reminds me of the 98fm toll trolls...M and 50 when they went up North.:D

how can them little boyos talk about other peoples accents when they sound like gypsies speaking latin

Hannibal · 30-04-2013 1:42am

kraggy wrote: »

I would've thought Pearse Doherty was too young to have been in the PIRA. I thought he was one of the first band of pure politicians as opposed to ex paramilitay-now politician.

Pat Doherty, he was SF vice president up until Mary Lou took up the position he's still an MP for Tyrone

K-9 wrote: »

I'd think you'd be very naive about how SF and the IRA would have been intrinsically linked back in 71/72, to seriously doubt he wasn't involved in some way with military matters. To me he was and is an astute politician, which makes me doubt his words, or at least suggests to me he is being economical with the truth when it suits. The IRA recognised this when specifically asking for his release from internment in 72 to have talks with the British Government, from then on he was the political figure head and to be protected at all costs.

I'm not being naive at all, SF and the IRA shared a lot of the same members but there was a lot of members of both who weren't members of the other. Adams was seen as the face of the IRA as the IRA were mostly anonymous, SF did speak on behalf of the IRA no doubt about it but both groups acted independently of each other even though there was a cross over of members. This resulted in the IRA becomming more politically aware and realising a political settlement could push the conflict further than a military settlement could. Adams is the only Irish political leader in the latter 20th century that could stand toe to toe with other great leaders like Pearse, Connolly and de Valera

K-9 · 30-04-2013 1:58am

Dotsey wrote: »

I'm not being naive at all, SF and the IRA shared a lot of the same members but there was a lot of members of both who weren't members of the other. Adams was seen as the face of the IRA as the IRA were mostly anonymous, SF did speak on behalf of the IRA no doubt about it but both groups acted independently of each other even though there was a cross over of members. This resulted in the IRA becomming more politically aware and realising a political settlement could push the conflict further than a military settlement could. Adams is the only Irish political leader in the latter 20th century that could stand toe to toe with other great leaders like Pearse, Connolly and de Valera

Probably a bit unfair saying naive, just he's a consummate politician, even back in those days, I just don't see why you believe him when you'd probably be cynical of many other politicians. My problem is he sticks to a political script that has barely changed in the 15 or so years since the Good Friday agreement about matters like this, which makes me more skeptical.

I'd agree with you from 73 or so onwards, though I'd say he was aware of more stuff than he lets on. Pre-73, I'm doubtful.

I'd agree with you on DeV, Connolly definitely not.

Gerry Adams on RTE PrimeTime--29-05-13

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