Have you ever experienced hibernophobia?

old hippy · 09-03-2013 06:59PM

Weathering wrote: »

Go hug a tree hippy. She was being ignorant for no reason,I don't let people walk over me and she deserved it and brought it in herself. Why don't build a mountain so you can look down on people a little bit more

She deserved to be racially abused, did she? You stooped to her level and now you try and justify it?

I don't need to look down on you, that hole you're standing in just got a lot deeper.

Fratton Fred · 10-03-2013 12:45AM

tipptom wrote: »

Well believe that,bet your a Chelsea supporter,been to Stamford bridge many time as a Southampton supporter living in London.

Bet you I'm not.

kabakuyu · 10-03-2013 01:11AM

I never experienced any problems in the UK ( lived in London and Norwich for a while in the 80's) but have had problems with a**holes while on holidays in the Balearics(quiet family resorts) but no problems in Magaluf.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 10-03-2013 02:03AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

who is making jokes about the famine?

Well, I haven't heard any for a while, so you could say at the moment, we're going through a bti of ah.... never mind....

narddog · 10-03-2013 02:06AM

gallag wrote: »

I really cant understand UK and irish people being racist to each other, same people really, obviously us British are smarter, better looking, make better lovers and dont have as many gingers but we are basically the same!

I am livid at this post. Absolutely furious. To accuse us of having more ginger people is below the belt.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 10-03-2013 05:02AM

tipptom wrote: »

Well believe that,bet your a Chelsea supporter,been to Stamford bridge many time as a Southampton supporter living in London.

Seriously. Stop digging.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-03-2013 08:15AM

The Chelsea Headhunters had connections to the UDA. They didn't like us southern folk so much. But yet many Irish are Chelsea fans?

greenflash · 10-03-2013 10:48AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

The Chelsea Headhunters had connections to the UDA. They didn't like us southern folk so much. But yet many Irish are Chelsea fans?

Not all Chelsea fans are Headhunters. Not many in fact. Also, not many Headhunters are deeply into the politics, they just use whatever insult is most likely to get a scrap in a particular situation.

Any Irish person who supports an English club is a mong so they can have no complaints.

tipptom · 10-03-2013 06:15PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Seriously. Stop digging.

13,000 posts and still dont make sense

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 10-03-2013 06:26PM

tipptom wrote: »

13,000 posts and still dont make sense

It's the extra 700 or so that make the difference.

Mr_Spaceman · 10-03-2013 08:21PM

I'd never even heard of this term until I started reading this thread.

Having lived in mainland UK for over 20 years, not once have I been subjected to anti-Irish jibes. Well, maybe once, someone mentioned potatoes. So what about it? I love spuds.

However some people need to chill out and stop boring the arse off the rest of us for being 'offended'.

UCDVet · 10-03-2013 08:59PM

I wouldn't say I've seen anything that extreme. I've met some people who were misinformed about Ireland. They genuinely thought Ireland was nothing but green fields and sheep farmers.

gallag · 10-03-2013 09:06PM

UCDVet wrote: »

I wouldn't say I've seen anything that extreme. I've met some people who were misinformed about Ireland. They genuinely thought Ireland was nothing but green fields and sheep farmers.

There's also beef farming, so uneducated.

con___manx1 · 11-03-2013 03:59AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Where in Heathrow were you, because random explosives checks are standard. An anti Irish security guard would be kept very busy hassling the thousands of Irish people who travel through there on a daily basis.

I have never been checked like that for explosives in any other airport and believe me I have been too quite a few.

TheLastMohican · 11-03-2013 04:12AM

dd972 wrote: »

English yobs who tailcoat Loyalism in it's Glasgow Rangers or Ulster paramilitary guises are usually inadequate saddo's attracted by it's macho allure, Chelsea have an element of these in their fan base, people from Slough or Staines with no culture, identity or accent so they go looking for one.

Right YOU! Am going to ring up Ali G. That'll sort you

con___manx1 · 11-03-2013 04:17AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Where in Heathrow were you, because random explosives checks are standard. An anti Irish security guard would be kept very busy hassling the thousands of Irish people who travel through there on a daily basis.

I have never been checked like that for explosives in any other airport and believe me I have been too quite a few.I wasn't searched the last 2 times I was in heathrow so maybe it was just random. I cant remember where exactly it was. this incident happened about 4 years ago. at the time actually I had longish hair and a beard. I also have a slight northern accent.

fryup · 11-03-2013 10:52AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

who is making jokes about the famine?

well, tommy tiernan for one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWVYePkfSdU

Tabnabs · 11-03-2013 11:03AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Glasgow, check. Newcastle, very surprised. Continent, being associated with catholicism is a bit of a negative thing and does happen, but there is no way continentals say "you're all the same" when corrcted. Not a chance.

Neither of the Rangers fans were from Glasgow and the keep your Irish accent quite pub was in Peterhead.

I've worked a lot with Geordies and Macams and found them incredibly racist. Like many English, they are very tribal and like to pigeon-hole other groups. I learned all sorts of offensive words for just about every race they came across.

I have experienced the "English/Irish, you're all the same" attitude all over Europe and amongst well educated people in less well off parts of the world (Nigeria, Iraq, Indonesia to name a few).

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-03-2013 11:38AM

Tabnabs wrote: »

Neither of the Rangers fans were from Glasgow and the keep your Irish accent quite pub was in Peterhead.

I've worked a lot with Geordies and Macams and found them incredibly racist. Like many English, they are very tribal and like to pigeon-hole other groups. I learned all sorts of offensive words for just about every race they came across.

I have experienced the "English/Irish, you're all the same" attitude all over Europe and amongst well educated people in less well off parts of the world (Nigeria, Iraq, Indonesia to name a few).

Nerwcastle are the most chilled out easygoing people on the British Island!

Have never, in seven years of living in Paris, Denmark and Berlin, ever experienced anyone ever try to shrug off Irish and Briutish as being the same. Makign the mistake, yes, but never once trying to cover it up. Unless you're talkign about British or non-European people you met there.

Never been to Peterhead, take your word for it!

The Road Runner · 11-03-2013 12:10PM

Can't say I really have. A bit of slagging on a few sites in London back in the day but I gave as good as I got. You knew at the end of the day if it came to the crunch they would have your back, ie 'I wouldn't use that circ saw on the third floor paddy, it'll fry that spud brain of yours, there's another one out in the lockup'

Only time I felt bad was as a nipper on holidays in Italy, most the other kids on the campsite were english and gave me a hell of a time, really confused me at the time as it was my first time over seas. Looking back now I see it was kids being kids.

old hippy · 11-03-2013 01:21PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

I'd never even heard of this term until I started reading this thread.

Having lived in mainland UK for over 20 years, not once have I been subjected to anti-Irish jibes. Well, maybe once, someone mentioned potatoes. So what about it? I love spuds.

However some people need to chill out and stop boring the arse off the rest of us for being 'offended'.

If it bores you so, why are you reading and replying to the comments here?

You're lucky not to have experienced racism or sectarianism. It's rather unpleasant and being told to "chill out" is not helpful. In fact, your dismissive comments are part of the problem, not the answer.

And what is this "mainland" you speak of?

Mr_Spaceman · 11-03-2013 01:28PM

old hippy wrote: »

If it bores you so, why are you reading and replying to the comments here?

You're lucky not to have experienced racism or sectarianism. It's rather unpleasant and being told to "chill out" is not helpful. In fact, your dismissive comments are part of the problem, not the answer.

And what is this "mainland" you speak of?

I was interested to find out what Hibernophobia was actually.

The 'mainland' is mainland UK as I am from Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. It's fairly simple.

old hippy · 11-03-2013 01:31PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

I was interested to find out what Hibernophobia was actually.

The 'mainland' is mainland UK as I am from Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. It's fairly simple.

So you see yourself predominantly as British? Maybe that's why you haven't noticed any anti-Irish sentiment?

Just trying to work out where you're coming from...

gallag · 11-03-2013 01:34PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

I was interested to find out what Hibernophobia was actually.

The 'mainland' is mainland UK as I am from Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. It's fairly simple.

Dont worry about explaining, he knew what you ment, just a touch of bitterness left in the old hippy, same as when you ask someone "did you watch the football last night" and knowing full well you are talking about soccer still reply "there was no gaa on last night".

old hippy · 11-03-2013 01:41PM

gallag wrote: »

Dont worry about explaining, he knew what you ment, just a touch of bitterness left in the old hippy, same as when you ask someone "did you watch the football last night" and knowing full well you are talking about soccer still reply "there was no gaa on last night".

I am not a GAA supporter

Mr_Spaceman · 11-03-2013 01:41PM

old hippy wrote: »

So you see yourself predominantly as British? Maybe that's why you haven't noticed any anti-Irish sentiment?

Just trying to work out where you're coming from...

Yes. But I have dual nationality.

However as people have previously alluded to, most English folk just label everyone as Irish regardless of origin most of the time. It doesn't bother me really.

I could say that during the Troubles I was regularly stopped and questioned returning home on the ferry. I fitted a certain lazy stereotype I suppose - man travelling alone with long hair etc.

Rather than getting wound up and imagining all kinds I realised the security forces were just doing their job at the time. There was nothing untoward about it and I never felt uncomfortable.

old hippy · 11-03-2013 01:45PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

Yes. But I have dual nationality.

However as people have previously alluded to, most English folk just label everyone as Irish regardless of origin most of the time. It doesn't bother me really.

I could say that during the Troubles I was regularly stopped and questioned returning home on the ferry. I fitted a certain lazy stereotype I suppose - man travelling alone with long hair etc.

Rather than getting wound up and imagining all kinds I realised the security forces were just doing their job at the time. There was nothing untoward about it and I never felt uncomfortable.

That's very magnanimous of you. However, there are plenty of people who are not comfortable with jibes, discrimination, sectarianism and so forth.

Which is why being told to relax the head about it doesn't really help. Sometimes shrugging off offensive behaviour or comments isn't always that easy.

Mr_Spaceman · 11-03-2013 01:52PM

old hippy wrote: »

That's very magnanimous of you. However, there are plenty of people who are not comfortable with jibes, discrimination, sectarianism and so forth.

Which is why being told to relax the head about it doesn't really help. Sometimes shrugging off offensive behaviour or comments isn't always that easy.

Well I've explained my own experiences - I'm sorry if you feel uptight that not everyone feels as offended as you do.

I have plenty of Irish friends living in London and they have never experienced resentment. I'm not saying it doesn't exist but it's probably exaggerated out of all proportion.

If you feel otherwise then that's fine.

gallag · 11-03-2013 01:54PM

old hippy wrote: »

I am not a GAA supporter

Or big into reading, but like being pedantic?

old hippy · 11-03-2013 01:58PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

Well I've explained my own experiences - I'm sorry if you feel uptight that not everyone feels as offended as you do.

I have plenty of Irish friends living in London and they have never experienced resentment. I'm not saying it doesn't exist but it's probably exaggerated out of all proportion.

If you feel otherwise then that's fine.

I don't feel uptight about it. There will always be people who wish to sweep it under the carpet and downplay it. That's their perrogative to do so.

You remind me of the type of person who says that racism doesn't exist - simply because they've never experienced it. Which again, is your perrogative.

Have you ever experienced hibernophobia?

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