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reilig · 12-02-2013 03:20PM

bbam wrote: »

Mumbo Jumbo beleifs of some farmers.

I'm continually shocked at what some lads believe or choose to believe.
I had a lad down looking at some sucks I bought and he was horrified that I was letting them have rolled barley. He said it will bust and sicken them and lie in them until it kills them. I find it handy for starting calves as they seem to love the taste and smell. Actually we feed it to near all animals from chickens to pigs to weanlings, haven't seen one burst yet! He even tried to tell me that the bit of ringworm we have was from feeding barley.

People forget that the process of mixing ration or manufacturing feed nuts is only a couple of decades old. Before that, most animals were fed on whole (maybe rolled) grain - whatever was grown in the area at the time. It didn't do the animals any harm back then, why would it harm them now!

rancher · 12-02-2013 03:27PM

bbam wrote: »

Mumbo Jumbo beleifs of some farmers.

I'm continually shocked at what some lads believe or choose to believe.
I had a lad down looking at some sucks I bought and he was horrified that I was letting them have rolled barley. He said it will bust and sicken them and lie in them until it kills them. I find it handy for starting calves as they seem to love the taste and smell. Actually we feed it to near all animals from chickens to pigs to weanlings, haven't seen one burst yet! He even tried to tell me that the bit of ringworm we have was from feeding barley.
I was in the same lads yard a few years ago and he was giving out that the crows ****e was sickening his calves, he choose to believe this rather than washing out teat drinkers after feed time, they were all crusty as mouldy from old milk.
Some lads believe any auld rubbish, like dettol or jeys fluid down the troat to cure a scour, can you imagine how that goes on a calfs stomach and intestine, irritating everything and causing god knows what harm.

Teagasc in grange did trials years ago comparing bought ration and barley/soya/mins mix to young calves and the barley/soya/mins ration outperformed them all
I never used anything else when I was rearing calves

hugo29 · 12-02-2013 03:39PM

bbam wrote: »

Mumbo Jumbo beleifs of some farmers.

I'm continually shocked at what some lads believe or choose to believe.
I had a lad down looking at some sucks I bought and he was horrified that I was letting them have rolled barley. He said it will bust and sicken them and lie in them until it kills them. I find it handy for starting calves as they seem to love the taste and smell. Actually we feed it to near all animals from chickens to pigs to weanlings, haven't seen one burst yet! He even tried to tell me that the bit of ringworm we have was from feeding barley.
I was in the same lads yard a few years ago and he was giving out that the crows ****e was sickening his calves, he choose to believe this rather than washing out teat drinkers after feed time, they were all crusty as mouldy from old milk.
Some lads believe any auld rubbish, like dettol or jeys fluid down the troat to cure a scour, can you imagine how that goes on a calfs stomach and intestine, irritating everything and causing god knows what harm.

when we are on that subject what age would you start feeding ration to calves

i give them a small bit once they are 2 weeks old, helps take pressure off cow, some lads are horrified at this and say they should be at least 4 weeks old

thoughts

hugo29 · 12-02-2013 03:41PM

any of you fellow posh farmers ever gone on week camping holiday to france, if so would you recommend it, married 10 yrs this year and was thinking of taking herself and kids away for week

feckin pricey though:D and who said romance was dead

leg wax · 12-02-2013 03:56PM

hugo29 wrote: »

any of you fellow posh farmers ever gone on week camping holiday to france, if so would you recommend it, married 10 yrs this year and was thinking of taking herself and kids away for week

feckin pricey though:D and who said romance was dead

we go every year to a camp site but stay in the mobile home on site.its great for the kids ,as they make new friends,and we fill up on wine:D,yes its a good hols but every one has there own ideas of what they want out of a hols,what part are you going too.

hugo29 · 12-02-2013 04:01PM

leg wax wrote: »

we go every year to a camp site but stay in the mobile home on site.its great for the kids ,as they make new friends,and we fill up on wine:D,yes its a good hols but every one has there own ideas of what they want out of a hols,what part are you going too.

place called "Domaine de Kerlane", same thing mobile home on a camp site, its good value but the feckin ferry over is dear, was going to go into Roscoff which is 1 hr away
Where did u go too and what age were the little ones

bbam · 12-02-2013 04:46PM

We've done France for the last ten years and wouldn't dream of any other holiday until the girls can pack and carry their own suitcases.
We've been down the west coast to Bordaux and inland campsites too.
Le Littoral and Sequoia parc are the most memorable from a fun and quality perspective and were going back to the latter for the third time in the last six years.
It's the best possible family holiday for us, stuff the car full and bring the bikes on the back. still drinking bottles of wine from France, nothing as nice as the clink of cheap quality wine on the way home.

Bizzum · 12-02-2013 05:06PM

whelan1 wrote: »

second aa cow calved that was scanned not in calf, she had a pb bull, one yesterday evening also had a bull, fine calves.... sometimes you get lucky:cool:

Who's the Daddy do ya know?

whelan1 · 12-02-2013 05:18PM

Bizzum wrote: »

Who's the Daddy do ya know?

our pb angus stock bull that was running with them for the summer

Bizzum · 12-02-2013 05:29PM

whelan1 wrote: »

our pb angus stock bull that was running with them for the summer

You're laughing so.

bob charles · 12-02-2013 06:29PM

reilig wrote: »

I wouldn't be wasting too much money on it. The guy stands to make €485k after prizes when he sells the 2000 tickets - this gives him over €12k per acre for his land.

What happens if he doesn't sell the 2000 tickets? Will he refund you? He doesn't mention it?

Why does he have no mention of having gotten a Garda Permit for it?

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1956/en/act/pub/0002/index.html#zza2y1956

I think that there is also a notice in there that the permit holder is not allowed to get personal profit from a draw.

The Gardai love closing down Schemes like this!

Think I'll take my money and invest in a nice pyramid scheme instead :eek::eek::eek:

Cant think of the horse gambler that done the same in the early ninties or late eighties, he was involved in a number of betting coups. think he got away with his raffle for his mansion

rancher · 12-02-2013 06:59PM

bob charles wrote: »

Cant think of the horse gambler that done the same in the early ninties or late eighties, he was involved in a number of betting coups. think he got away with his raffle for his mansion

Barney Curley in Middleton Park in Westmeath, I remember the punters arriving in helicopters to the draw

whelan1 · 12-02-2013 08:44PM

just registered my first calves on agfood.ie, very handy isnt it:D

iverjohnston · 12-02-2013 09:17PM

hugo29 wrote: »

any of you fellow posh farmers ever gone on week camping holiday to france, if so would you recommend it, married 10 yrs this year and was thinking of taking herself and kids away for week

feckin pricey though:D and who said romance was dead

If you are like me and think that kids do feck all the first few days back to school, you can shave a couple hundred off the ferry tickets by coming back first days of sept. Or book now, rosslare to cherbourg return with a small campervan (VW Transporter) Out august 20th, back 3 sept, 580 Euro

Should add that this depends on the number of children, as the bloody cabins cost a third of the total.

just do it · 12-02-2013 10:04PM

pakalasa wrote: »

1 Straw of Texan Gie - Price €650
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4559310

Mane Cavan Ba******s

No foal no fee?!!

DMAXMAN · 12-02-2013 11:51PM

hugo29 wrote: »

any of you fellow posh farmers ever gone on week camping holiday to france, if so would you recommend it, married 10 yrs this year and was thinking of taking herself and kids away for week

feckin pricey though:D and who said romance was dead

we go camping every year for the holidays. we have been in Biarritz, near Nice, tuscany in Italy and lake garda in italy. going back to tuscany in italy this year. biarritz was lovely not too warm but ok. nice was very expensive. italy is lovely ,not too dear, but can get very warm. 2 years ago the car registered 46 degrees the day we were leaving.i would recommend them highly everything is laid on on the campsites. personally we use a company called KELAIR based in ballinasloe. find them good and not too dear.

freedominacup · 13-02-2013 02:00AM

hugo29 wrote: »

any of you fellow posh farmers ever gone on week camping holiday to france, if so would you recommend it, married 10 yrs this year and was thinking of taking herself and kids away for week

feckin pricey though:D and who said romance was dead

I'm gonna be the awkward one. We tried the French camping thing once and hated every minute of it. We flew to Nice and stayed around 60k west. Expensive, uncomfortable accomodation. Expensive unwelcoming restaurants to the point we felt we'd have been more welcome with a couple of dogs than kids going into them. Far too hot, and getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. In a sentence never ever again.

We go to the Algarve most years for the same money only difference is we get a good sized apartment that sleeps 6, 2 bedrooms and a couple of pullouts. Fully equiped kitchen, air con, in a nice well managed small complex. Apartment cleaned and restocked with towels and linen a couple of times a week compared to a list of tasks you are expected to perform before you leave in order to get your deposit back from the campsite. Child friendly welcoming restaurants to the point that some have play areas close to the dining area. Great value in the restaurants also. Supermarkets significantly cheaper than home as against more expensive if anything in France. Staff almost every where are happy to get your custom compared to Gallic indifference if you're lucky downright rudeness if you're not.

The French trip was so bad that TBH the brother-in-law and I spent a while working out the logistics of moving the two crews across the south of France and down through Spain to our usual hunting grounds. It was a close thing as to whether we stayed or left.Don't do it Hugo think of the kids.:D

bbam · 13-02-2013 10:02AM

freedominacup wrote: »

I'm gonna be the awkward one. We tried the French camping thing once and hated every minute of it. We flew to Nice and stayed around 60k west. Expensive, uncomfortable accomodation. Expensive unwelcoming restaurants to the point we felt we'd have been more welcome with a couple of dogs than kids going into them. Far too hot, and getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. In a sentence never ever again.

We go to the Algarve most years for the same money only difference is we get a good sized apartment that sleeps 6, 2 bedrooms and a couple of pullouts. Fully equiped kitchen, air con, in a nice well managed small complex. Apartment cleaned and restocked with towels and linen a couple of times a week compared to a list of tasks you are expected to perform before you leave in order to get your deposit back from the campsite. Child friendly welcoming restaurants to the point that some have play areas close to the dining area. Great value in the restaurants also. Supermarkets significantly cheaper than home as against more expensive if anything in France. Staff almost every where are happy to get your custom compared to Gallic indifference if you're lucky downright rudeness if you're not.

The French trip was so bad that TBH the brother-in-law and I spent a while working out the logistics of moving the two crews across the south of France and down through Spain to our usual hunting grounds. It was a close thing as to whether we stayed or left.Don't do it Hugo think of the kids.:D

Indeed.. I've heard that said of Niece before, friends have a house there and really the locals don't like tourists..

We always bring the car, the girls, now 10 and 4, get to throw in whatever stuff they want to bring so they have their favourite stuff with them. And we bring our bikes too.
travelling by Ferry takes the whole hanging round the airport with small kids out of the equation. You wait in your own car, check-in is out the window of the car, you park on the ferry and carry your overnight bag up to your pre-booked cabin. Stress free.
Along the west coast tourists are welcomed, they are the bread and butter and we've found they know it, and work to this ethos.
You can judge the temperature along the west cost very well.. Brittany will be like Cork on a really good summer, Bordeaux will be much more Mediterranean.
The mobiles on the campsites are nice but the very smallest ones are cramped, we had on one year and it was hard going. Best spend a few bob on a middle range one.
Choose a campsite that doesn't do private ownership on site. It tends to be a bit nosier than an all rental site.
We book a gas BBQ, do a huge shopping in the nearest super-u and we would tend only to eat out a few times when were there, along the west coast restraunts are good value, you'll pay in any top end place but ordinary restraunts along the sea front are very reasonable as competition is tight.
Any campsite I've been on in the last ten years have the option of a cleaning fee. It ranges from €20 to €50 and you don't have to do anything before you leave, just don't bring anything home that's theirs and they're happy. Good value in my opinion.

But its not for everyone, my sister went a few years ago and didn't like it. It all started poorly when they picked up the rental car and drove for 2 hours in the wrong direction while the sat-nav was telling them to turn around.. :eek:

We booked again last NOv, and pay off a bit every month.. Roll on June !

If I was asked to fly out to an apartment in a resort for a sun holiday, I swear I'd rather stay home and pull ragwort !

freedominacup · 13-02-2013 10:19AM

bbam wrote: »

Indeed.. I've heard that said of Niece before, friends have a house there and really the locals don't like tourists..
We always bring the car, the girls, now 10 and 4, get to throw in whatever stuff they want to bring so they have their favourite stuff with them. And we bring our bikes too.

travelling by Ferry takes the whole hanging round the airport with small kids out of the equation. You wait in your own car, check-in is out the window of the car, you park on the ferry and carry your overnight bag up to your pre-booked cabin. Stress free.

Along the west coast tourists are welcomed, they are the bread and butter and we've found they know it, and work to this ethos.

You can judge the temperature along the west cost very well.. Brittany will be like Cork on a really good summer, Bordeaux will be much more Mediterranean.

The mobiles on the campsites are nice but the very smallest ones are cramped, we had on one year and it was hard going. Best spend a few bob on a middle range one.

Choose a campsite that doesn't do private ownership on site. It tends to be a bit nosier than an all rental site.

We book a gas BBQ, do a huge shopping in the nearest super-u and we would tend only to eat out a few times when were there, along the west coast restraunts are good value, you'll pay in any top end place but ordinary restraunts along the sea front are very reasonable as competition is tight.

But its not for everyone, my sister went a few years ago and didn't like it. It all started poorly when they picked up the rental car and drove for 2 hours in the wrong direction while the sat-nav was telling them to turn around.. :eek:

We booked again last NOv, and pay off a bit every month.. Roll on June !

That was the only saving grace the year we went at least the ladies had done the booking and we (the men) were absolved of all blame for the state of the mobiles. The ladies haven't been allowed to make any decisions in this regard since without at least running it past us which is not how things normally work;). One thing that our trip showed was that the ratings system for the campsites is not as accurate as it could be. One of the couples on our trip had done the campsite thing the previous year and the campsite we stayed in had the same rating as the one they had stayed in previously but there was a huge difference in quality between the two certainly accomodation wise. We were happy enough heading out that the campsite should be of a good standard.

reilig · 13-02-2013 10:28AM

whelan1 wrote: »

just registered my first calves on agfood.ie, very handy isnt it:D

Have you not been doing it online all along?

Its the dog's nuts!

Its handy to be able to type in the dam's last 4 numbers and just pick her out. Also handy that you can save the sire's details.

I'm using it for at least 5 years now. I could never go back to the paper trail.

Are you still keeping a herd register?

whelan1 · 13-02-2013 10:29AM

nothing better than going back to somewhere you have been before, especially with kids, we are going to benalmadena soon it will be our 4th time going.... we know the routine, nothing worse than whingy kids and stressed out parents- disaster

Bodacious · 13-02-2013 10:35AM

champion charolais commercial 2012, great bit of selling:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8I1dhsdXw

hugo29 · 13-02-2013 11:41AM

reilig wrote: »

Have you not been doing it online all along?

Its the dog's nuts!

Its handy to be able to type in the dam's last 4 numbers and just pick her out. Also handy that you can save the sire's details.

I'm using it for at least 5 years now. I could never go back to the paper trail.

Are you still keeping a herd register?

i have to say i agree, its the bizz,

whelan1 · 13-02-2013 12:01PM

reilig wrote: »

Have you not been doing it online all along?

Its the dog's nuts!

Its handy to be able to type in the dam's last 4 numbers and just pick her out. Also handy that you can save the sire's details.

I'm using it for at least 5 years now. I could never go back to the paper trail.

Are you still keeping a herd register?

had been using agrinet to register them... handy as i have the freeze brands on it iykwim, used agfood yesterday to register the suckler calves, will do it today for my ones

whelan1 · 13-02-2013 12:18PM

7 times i have just rang eurotags before i spoke to someone:o:o fantastic service

mf240 · 13-02-2013 12:35PM

whelan1 wrote: »

7 times i have just rang eurotags before i spoke to someone:o:o fantastic service

Thats the level of service that you will get anywhere there is no competition.

pakalasa · 13-02-2013 12:46PM

Ya, there's no reason why it couldn't be split betwwen 2 companies and they both working off the same database. They'd answer the phone then.

whelan1 · 13-02-2013 02:25PM

another set of twin "calves " last night:cool:

whelan1 · 13-02-2013 07:56PM

fook sake after all that rain today think i might have to start posting on the depression thread, its not a joke anymore

Marooned75 · 13-02-2013 08:00PM

Finally the top man is on the news now john keep the pressure on get that message out and keep preaching it reassure the public the farmers are not to blame

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