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Farming Chit Chat

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  • #9062
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Interesting, yeh big risk there so! We never got the cows scanned last yr, so I'd often get the vet to check afew cow here when hes around, he doesn't use the scanner, just checked with his hand. Most cows are usually gone 4months anyways, which I suppose makes it easier for him, but anyways I don't remember him having got one wrong yet! I'm getting in a chap to scan 20/30 of the late spring/winter calvers over the next week, I'll keep in mind that its not 100% certain by any means!


  • #9063
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    whelan1 wrote: »
    last year i sold a few culls to a dealer out of the yard, these where scanned not in calf and 4 or 5 months later they calved in new mans place, with fr calves..... my dad was saying the same but i said sure if the scanning man has said they are not in calf, they shouldnt be in calf:confused::confused: a pedigree calf would be a big loss had we estrumated them

    Our Scanning man will give a cert to say that an cow is in calf or not only if she is more than 30 days and less than 6 months gone. He says that he cannot accorately tell if a cow is in calf if she is more than 6 months gone. he can tell with some cows and not others.


  • #9064
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    reilig wrote: »
    Our Scanning man will give a cert to say that an cow is in calf or not only if she is more than 30 days and less than 6 months gone. He says that he cannot accorately tell if a cow is in calf if she is more than 6 months gone. he can tell with some cows and not others.
    yup can well understand under 30 days or over 6 months but these would have been 4-5 months gone, i wrote it down in the diary and one of them was the dam of a bvd calf so we where happy she wasnt in calf, i would say she will calve in the next day or so... i was saying maybe i wrote down the wrong result for the other one but i deffo remember the one with the bvd calf , he said she wasnt in calf


  • #9065
    hugo29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    reilig wrote: »
    Our Scanning man will give a cert to say that an cow is in calf or not only if she is more than 30 days and less than 6 months gone. He says that he cannot accorately tell if a cow is in calf if she is more than 6 months gone. he can tell with some cows and not others.

    the 30 day bit I get, but after 6 months:confused:


  • #9066
    hugo29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    i see the pope resigned, wonder was it anything to do with the horse meat


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  • #9067
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    hugo29 wrote: »
    the 30 day bit I get, but after 6 months:confused:

    He can tell most of them, but he cannot give a 100% guarantee after 6 months.


  • #9068
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    My scanner scans the late ones outside the right flank instead of rectally.

    Whelan have you spoke to any other customers about results, a pedigree cow going to the factory in calf could be a bit expensive.:(

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #9069
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    blue5000 wrote: »
    My scanner scans the late ones outside the right flank instead of rectally.

    Whelan have you spoke to any other customers about results, a pedigree cow going to the factory in calf could be a bit expensive.:(
    i wont be using him again.... had issues with another guy who perforated a few cows scanning them also:rolleyes:


  • #9070
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    hugo29 wrote: »

    the 30 day bit I get, but after 6 months:confused:
    Around 5-6 months they drop down into the abdomen from the pelvis. When they are deep down there and not yet big enough they can be hard to feel/ reach.


  • #9071
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    aa cow calved, shes a bit hormonal so will leave her alone for a while, she would have been around 4 and a half months when scanned.... -he said she was empty


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  • #9072
    td5man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭td5man


    whelan1 wrote: »
    aa cow calved, shes a bit hormonal so will leave her alone for a while,
    Typical female leaving them alone works sometimes!!


  • #9073
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    td5man wrote: »
    Typical female leaving them alone works sometimes!!
    says the expert:D


  • #9074
    td5man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭td5man


    whelan1 wrote: »
    says the expert:D
    12 years


  • #9075
    saranac1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭saranac1


    Lads/ladies what's the best way to get a calf to suck the mother. The calf is 4 days old, strong enough to run around but is stubborn when it comes to sucking the mother, at the moment it is getting milk via teet and bucket but is there another way, not a fan of stomach tube!


  • #9076
    dzer2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Mommy in heading gate and use lamb feeding bottle to get calf on teat


  • #9077
    caseman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭caseman


    saranac1 wrote: »
    Lads/ladies what's the best way to get a calf to suck the mother. The calf is 4 days old, strong enough to run around but is stubborn when it comes to sucking the mother, at the moment it is getting milk via teet and bucket but is there another way, not a fan of stomach tube!

    Let the calve get hungry he won't be long learning how to suck his mother.


  • #9078
    1chippy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    you can get an injection in the vets, that will get him sucking. i cant think what its called.


  • #9079
    redzerologhlen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    1chippy wrote: »
    you can get an injection in the vets, that will get him sucking. i cant think what its called.
    It's an appetite stimulant but I can't think of the name of it. If the calf is trying to suck but just hasn't any power/action in his tongue 2cc of selenium under the skin might set him right, has worked for me in the past on several occasions.


  • #9080
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,145 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Just in at 5 to 10 from taking soil samples by tourch light. The joys of part time farming!


  • #9081
    hoseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭hoseman


    bogman_bass wrote: »
    Just in at 5 to 10 from taking soil samples by tourch light. The joys of part time farming!
    Part time during the day,Full time at night!!:D:D


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  • #9082
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    redzerologhlen wrote: »
    It's an appetite stimulant but I can't think of the name of it. If the calf is trying to suck but just hasn't any power/action in his tongue 2cc of selenium under the skin might set him right, has worked for me in the past on several occasions.
    colvasone is what i use cheap too


  • #9083
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    caseman wrote: »
    Let the calve get hungry he won't be long learning how to suck his mother.

    This is true but I would recommend giving electrolyte as you cut back the milk from the calf. The minute he starts to get dehydrated your on a loosing streak. . The injection the lads are talking about is a good job too.

    Check that he teat he's using isn't too free, it makes them lazy as they can get the milk easier from the teat on the bucket than sucking the cow.


  • #9084
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    1 Straw of Texan Gie - Price €650 :D
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4559310

    Mane Cavan Ba******s


  • #9085
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    You'dwant to split it 3 ways;)

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #9086
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    second aa cow calved that was scanned not in calf, she had a pb bull, one yesterday evening also had a bull, fine calves.... sometimes you get lucky:cool:


  • #9087
    stand on!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭stand on!!


    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/sheep/4561559

    This lads thinking!


  • #9088
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    stand on!! wrote: »
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/sheep/4561559

    This lads thinking!

    I wouldn't be wasting too much money on it. The guy stands to make €485k after prizes when he sells the 2000 tickets - this gives him over €12k per acre for his land.

    What happens if he doesn't sell the 2000 tickets? Will he refund you? He doesn't mention it?

    Why does he have no mention of having gotten a Garda Permit for it?

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1956/en/act/pub/0002/index.html#zza2y1956

    I think that there is also a notice in there that the permit holder is not allowed to get personal profit from a draw.

    The Gardai love closing down Schemes like this!

    Think I'll take my money and invest in a nice pyramid scheme instead :eek::eek::eek:


  • #9089
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    I wonder will he buy a few tickets himself.:D


  • #9090
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Mumbo Jumbo beleifs of some farmers.

    I'm continually shocked at what some lads believe or choose to believe.
    I had a lad down looking at some sucks I bought and he was horrified that I was letting them have rolled barley. He said it will bust and sicken them and lie in them until it kills them. I find it handy for starting calves as they seem to love the taste and smell. Actually we feed it to near all animals from chickens to pigs to weanlings, haven't seen one burst yet! He even tried to tell me that the bit of ringworm we have was from feeding barley.
    I was in the same lads yard a few years ago and he was giving out that the crows ****e was sickening his calves, he choose to believe this rather than washing out teat drinkers after feed time, they were all crusty as mouldy from old milk.
    Some lads believe any auld rubbish, like detail or keys fluid down the troath to cure a scour, can you imagine how that goes on a calfs stomach.


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  • #9091
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Mumbo Jumbo beleifs of some farmers.

    I'm continually shocked at what some lads believe or choose to believe.
    I had a lad down looking at some sucks I bought and he was horrified that I was letting them have rolled barley. He said it will bust and sicken them and lie in them until it kills them. I find it handy for starting calves as they seem to love the taste and smell. Actually we feed it to near all animals from chickens to pigs to weanlings, haven't seen one burst yet! He even tried to tell me that the bit of ringworm we have was from feeding barley.
    I was in the same lads yard a few years ago and he was giving out that the crows ****e was sickening his calves, he choose to believe this rather than washing out teat drinkers after feed time, they were all crusty as mouldy from old milk.
    Some lads believe any auld rubbish, like dettol or jeys fluid down the troat to cure a scour, can you imagine how that goes on a calfs stomach and intestine, irritating everything and causing god knows what harm.


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