Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v2.0

take everything · 23-01-2013 12:43AM

I'd love if subtitles came up when Damien English started to speak.

Lady Chatterton · 23-01-2013 12:49AM

tayto lover wrote: »

I think its time Carney was disbarred.

You'd certainly wonder about his judgement.

Lady Chatterton · 23-01-2013 12:51AM

I really wish Paul would get a haircut. I'm not too keen on his tie either, he is dressed like a school prefect.

take everything · 23-01-2013 12:54AM

What happened last years 3 billion promissory note.
Was it thrown on NAMA and not regarded as debt or something.
Can anyone explain this to me.

ResearchWill · 23-01-2013 12:55AM

MrsD007 wrote: »

Here is another example of a crazy sentence handed down by Paul Carney :mad:

He gave a three year suspended sentence to a man who broke into a house and raped a 33 year old mother of three in her bedroom.

Thankfully, the Court of Criminal Appeal increased the sentence to ten years.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1219/shannonm.html

And here is the same judge giving life then overturned http://www.extempore.ie/2011/10/08/court-of-criminal-appeal-cuts-life-sentence-for-rape/

And again

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/laois-man-has-life-sentence-for-rape-and-sexual-abuse-of-daughter-reduced-to-15-years-3329491.html

And double life

http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2009/0725/ireland/manuela-killer-gets-two-life-sentences-for-rape-97273.html

And life overturned

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0128/sullivanp.html

There are plenty more.

Lapin · 23-01-2013 12:58AM

Awful lot of mutterin and mumblin by VB there at the end.

I don't think anyone had a clue what he was on about.

Including me !

ResearchWill · 23-01-2013 12:59AM

Lapin wrote: »

Awful lot of mutterin and mumblin by VB there at the end.

I don't think anyone had a clue what he was on about.

Including me !

He reminds me of "Daddy" on the sky show Stella, only people who know him understand him.

Roger_007 · 23-01-2013 01:02AM

Why not try these cases in the Dail! Why do we appoint judges when the Dail can be judge and jury?

ResearchWill · 23-01-2013 01:04AM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Why not try these cases in the Dail! Why do we appoint judges when the Dail can be judge and jury?

They tried that, the people rejected it in a referendum thankfully.

Lady Chatterton · 23-01-2013 01:10AM

ResearchWill wrote: »

And here is the same judge giving life then overturned http://www.extempore.ie/2011/10/08/court-of-criminal-appeal-cuts-life-sentence-for-rape/

And again

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/laois-man-has-life-sentence-for-rape-and-sexual-abuse-of-daughter-reduced-to-15-years-3329491.html

And double life

http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2009/0725/ireland/manuela-killer-gets-two-life-sentences-for-rape-97273.html

And life overturned

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0128/sullivanp.html

There are plenty more.

I was talking Paul Carney's involvement in rape cases.

I've already given you my response on the AH thread, are you stalking me now?

ResearchWill · 23-01-2013 01:17AM

MrsD007 wrote: »

I was talking Paul Carney's involvement in rape cases.

I've already given you my response on the AH thread, are you stalking me now?

Stalking given what the topic is is a bit risky. All the cases I quoted are rape cases.

Lady Chatterton · 23-01-2013 01:31AM

ResearchWill wrote: »

Stalking given what the topic is is a bit risky. All the cases I quoted are rape cases.

I've just had a look at those cases and I'm even more concerned now

The more cases I look at the more worried I become about what I see as the lack of consistency in his sentencing, Paul Carney appears to go from one extreme to another - either heavy handed or he lets them walk (suspended sentences).

COYW · 23-01-2013 09:41PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Why not try these cases in the Dail! Why do we appoint judges when the Dail can be judge and jury?

I couldn't think of anything worse than having the members of the Dail acting as judge and jury on such cases.

Lady Chatterton · 24-01-2013 12:05AM

Vincent and his panel will be discussing the fact that none of the FF ministers who presided over the economic crash gave up their pensions.

Former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern does U-turn on 'gift' and takes full €150,000 pension

FORMER Taoiseach Bertie Ahern has been taking his full €150,000 a year pension since he left the Dail, after reversing his decision to give part of it back to the State.

The revelation comes as new figures released under Freedom of Information legislation show that only seven out of 116 former ministers gave up part of their pensions last year, despite the introduction of a simple system to allow them to do so.

None of the Fianna Fail ministers who presided over the economic crash gave up any part of their pensions.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/former-taoiseach-bertie-ahern-does-uturn-on-gift-and-takes-full-150000-pension-3362557.html

Lady Chatterton · 24-01-2013 12:13AM

Vinny is looking more like Ken Dodd than usual tonight

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Harry Angstrom · 24-01-2013 12:16AM

Amazing the way that the Government can cut the carers' respite grant at the stroke of a pen but can do nothing to reduce the pensions of these pigs who had their snouts in the trough for so many years :mad:

If it's a constitutional thing regarding pensions being looked as property rights, then give us a referendum.

tayto lover · 24-01-2013 12:29AM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Amazing the way that the Government can cut the carers' respite grant at the stroke of a pen but can do nothing to reduce the pensions of these pigs who had their snouts in the trough for so many years :mad:

If it's a constitutional thing regarding pensions being looked as property rights, then give us a referendum.

It's more amazing that they could cut the Public Sector pensions at the bottom but not at the top

Harry Angstrom · 24-01-2013 12:29AM

No surprise that there isn't a FF representative on tonight's panel. Their press office probably told him he had the wrong number when Vinnie got in touch with them today looking for somebody to appear on the show.

Callan57 · 24-01-2013 12:31AM

MrsD007 wrote: »

Vincent and his panel will be discussing the fact that none of the FF ministers who presided over the economic crash gave up their pensions.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/former-taoiseach-bertie-ahern-does-uturn-on-gift-and-takes-full-150000-pension-3362557.html

Did anybody actually think they would? :mad:

Lady Chatterton · 24-01-2013 12:37AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Did anybody actually think they would? :mad:

Well a few of them made a big song and dance about gifting some of their pension back to the State but we now know that they even went back on that.

Harry Angstrom · 24-01-2013 12:39AM

What made my blood boil just as much was the fact that Bertie Ahern was able to claim the artists' exemption for his autobiography. Then again, I suppose it was a work of fiction.

tayto lover · 24-01-2013 12:41AM

MrsD007 wrote: »

Well a few of them made a big song and dance about gifting some of their pension back to the State but we now know that they even went back on that.

Not one Fianna Fail T.D. kept his promise. Typical but not surprising.
They were some shower, wrecked the country and robbed it at the same time.

tayto lover · 24-01-2013 12:42AM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

What made my blood boil just as much was the fact that Bertie Ahern was able to claim the artists' exemption for his autobiography. Then again, I suppose it was a work of fiction.

Some of the present shower like James Reilly getting tax exemptions on his "tourist" mansion too.
The show goes on it seems.

Callan57 · 24-01-2013 12:43AM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

What made my blood boil just as much was the fact that Bertie Ahern was able to claim the artists' exemption for his autobiography. Then again, I suppose it was a work of fiction.

What make my blood really boil is to see FF back as arrogant and self-serving as ever. Are we really a stupid race or just too forgiving?

FREETV · 24-01-2013 12:44AM

Do any of you honestly still believe in the twenty first century that one can truly believe a word that any politician utters? :rolleyes:

Lady Chatterton · 24-01-2013 12:46AM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

What made my blood boil just as much was the fact that Bertie Ahern was able to claim the artists' exemption for his autobiography. Then again, I suppose it was a work of fiction.

I know how much Mammy O'Rourke annoys everyone but she has confirmed that she will not be availing of the artist exemption scheme for her book - Just Mary.

FORMER Government minister Mary O'Rourke has not applied for tax relief on income from her best-selling memoir, she has revealed.

The book, Just Mary, has flown off the shelves, earning a colossal €363,599 so far.

http://www.herald.ie/news/orourke-writes-off-tax-relief-on-bestseller-book-3343125.html

Harry Angstrom · 24-01-2013 12:49AM

Callan57 wrote: »

What make my blood really boil is to see FF back as arrogant and self-serving as ever. Are we really a stupid race or just too forgiving?

They'll be back in government before we know it, and Fine Gael and Labour will only have themselves to blame. In this country we only get the choice between Tweedledum and Tweedledumber.

tayto lover · 24-01-2013 12:49AM

MrsD007 wrote: »

I know how much Mammy O'Rourke annoys everyone but she has confirmed that she will not be availing of the artist exemption scheme for her book - Just Mary.

http://www.herald.ie/news/orourke-writes-off-tax-relief-on-bestseller-book-3343125.html

Nobody with a state pension should get an "Artist's exemption" in the first place.
They should put a cap on the amount all these separate pensions can add up to.
Some people are really creaming it off.

Lady Chatterton · 24-01-2013 12:50AM

Devil's Advocate = Another George Lee

Lenin Skynard · 24-01-2013 12:53AM

I'm not much of a fan of the Indo but I find Fionnan Sheehan tends to wipe the floor with most people in a very enjoyable way on tv/radio debates like these.

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