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Some info on the IEC 2013- DOES NOT MEAN PROGRAMME IS OPEN!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Muffinman1


    Well yes but if you compare links;

    From USIT (Who specialize in Visa)
    http://www.usit.ie/work-abroad/canada/work-and-travel-canada-visa - 3 Months

    From Canadian Government (Who obviously would know)
    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp - 3 Months

    From Canadian IEC Part of Canadian Government (Which states about it being to previous applications)
    http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/ireland-irlande/experience_canada_experience/faq.aspx?view=d#PoliceCert - 12 Months

    But in last link read quetion.
    I obtained a police certificate that I submitted for a previous application to the IEC initiative. Will it still be valid if I apply again? Do I need a new police certificate?


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Muffinman1


    Surfn wrote: »
    should i register for MyCIC account tonight or do you have to wait till the IEC application opens
    Can you register?
    I think we have to complete first part regardless. Before CIC


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭archicraft


    the following is the process in a nutshell :

    Group 1: New Process – IEC application online to DFAIT and work permit application to CIC using e-Apps

    In the new process, the following countries will use DFAIT’s IEC-Kompass system for the IEC portion (Stage 1) of the application. Applicants who meet the IEC eligibility requirements will be directed to use the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).
    All IEC applications must be submitted electronically or returned to the client to submit online unless Web accessibility issues, as per Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat (TBS) Guidelines, are identified.
    1. Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Germany, Greece, The Netherlands, Slovakia, Slovenia, Austria, Croatia, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Ireland and the United Kingdom.
    2. Japan will initially use paper applications for the IEC portion and switch to IEC-Kompass mid-year. In both cases, DFAIT will direct all applicants to use e-Apps to apply for their work permit.
    3. Australia will use their ‘in-house’ system for the IEC portion and then direct applicants to use e-Apps to apply for their work permit.
    4. New Zealand will submit paper IEC applications to DFAIT and then direct applicants to e-Apps to apply for their work permit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Paddy_kool


    What is an IEC-kompass account??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭westerlywonder


    Thanks.

    But theres no reason why we can't get to the bottom of this. You're both saying you have confirmation of different time limits.

    Guys a police cert is free to obtain, and is generally issued within 2/3 days of request.
    If yours is out of date by over the 3 months then the advice would be to get a new one issued.
    That is Unless you have committed some offence since the last one was issued, then chance the old one you have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 RodimusPrime


    Hi all!

    I've been reading through this thread so far and it's been really helpful.

    According to Operatoinal Bulletin 490 - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob490.asp

    In the new process, the following countries will use DFAIT’s IEC-Kompass system for the IEC portion (Stage 1) of the application. Applicants who meet the IEC eligibility requirements will be directed to use the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

    Does anyone know anything more about the DFAIT - Participant Acceptance Form? It says we have to submit it with our application. Maybe we get it after we pass the first stage??

    Can anyone shed any light on this??

    Thanks in advance!


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭archicraft


    Hi all!

    I've been reading through this thread so far and it's been really helpful.

    According to Operatoinal Bulletin 490 - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob490.asp

    In the new process, the following countries will use DFAIT’s IEC-Kompass system for the IEC portion (Stage 1) of the application. Applicants who meet the IEC eligibility requirements will be directed to use the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

    Does anyone know anything more about the DFAIT - Participant Acceptance Form? It says we have to submit it with our application. Maybe we get it after we pass the first stage??

    Can anyone shed any light on this??

    Thanks in advance!

    Yes, participant acceptance is granted after stage.1 success, then youre directed to the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

    after come to canada wizard is complete you will recieve the following
    personal checklist (please find attacted below) & then on to e-apps.

    absolutely simple:)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Thanks for that archicraft. is there anything i can do now as in fill in anything or is it just a matter of waiting till its open?:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Muffinman1


    Can anyone answer for first time applicants, can we register for any of the areas?

    Also archicraft can we use that attachment or is that a sample


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭archicraft


    Muffinman1 wrote: »
    Can anyone answer for first time applicants, can we register for any of the areas?

    Also archicraft can we use that attachment or is that a sample

    you can use the come to canada wizard as many times as you like,for practice, & every time it will generate ,for you, a personal checklist & code for the next stage(stage 2).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Muffinman1


    archicraft wrote: »
    you can use the come to canada wizard as many times as you like,for practice, & every time it will generate ,for you, a personal checklist & code for the next stage(stage 2).
    Which is come to canada wizard? Is that registration for for GC?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Hey quick question i am using the come to wizard for practice ..
    iam have paid go4less to review my application( i don't no why) so what should i answer for this question?


    Are you giving someone access to your application?

    The answers to choose from are..
    Yes, I will be appointing a representative to apply on my behalf
    Yes, grant authorization for Citizenship and Immigration Canada to release your application information to another person? Yes, both appoint a representative and grant authorization to release information to another person.
    any help with what answer to choose would be great.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭againstthetide


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    Hey quick question i am using the come to wizard for practice ..
    iam have paid go4less to review my application( i don't no why) so what should i answer for this question?


    Are you giving someone access to your application?

    The answers to choose from are..
    Yes, I will be appointing a representative to apply on my behalf
    Yes, grant authorization for Citizenship and Immigration Canada to release your application information to another person? Yes, both appoint a representative and grant authorization to release information to another person.
    any help with what answer to choose would be great.:)


    Are go4less going to talk to Cic n your behalf or submit the application for you? If neither then answer no


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Muffinman1


    I same as you and also at end where it says Signature of Applicant. What do we do, print form and scan or what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Accrual Intentions


    Guys a police cert is free to obtain, and is generally issued within 2/3 days of request.
    If yours is out of date by over the 3 months then the advice would be to get a new one issued.
    That is Unless you have committed some offence since the last one was issued, then chance the old one you have.

    Unfortunately it's £80 up here in the Wee Six for an express one :(

    Ah well, £80 for piece of mind - will get new one ordered tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭archicraft


    Muffinman1 wrote: »
    I same as you and also at end where it says Signature of Applicant. What do we do, print form and scan or what?


    this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/ctc-vac/getting-started.asp


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Muffinman1


    archicraft wrote: »
    I know that but do you know the next form where you state employment history etc. It has Validate Form at end but how do we sign it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    sure we wont know till the application opens?


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭archicraft


    Muffinman1 wrote: »
    I know that but do you know the next form where you state employment history etc. It has Validate Form at end but how do we sign it?

    sorry muffi, are you talking about : IMM1295 Application?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Muffinman1


    archicraft wrote: »

    sorry muffi, are you talking about : IMM1295 Application?

    That's the form yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭dealhunter1985


    do we need to fill in the
    Application for Temporary Resident Visa (IMM5257 – Schedule 1)


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭archicraft


    Muffinman1 wrote: »
    I know that but do you know the next form where you state employment history etc. It has Validate Form at end but how do we sign it?

    save PDF when complete, Validate first, then print the final page ,sign & date, then scan. DONT FORGET THAT THIS IS JUST A DRY RUN.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭WasterEx


    Grabbed this information from the myCIC, there's more information after that part but I figured this is the most important part.


    Step 3: Upload your documents

    Here are some guidelines for your documents:

    - Your form(s) and document(s) must be in an electronic format.

    - You do not need to sign your application form by hand if you submit your application form online. You will be asked to provide a digital signature once you are ready to transmit your documents to CIC.

    - One file will be allowed per document type. For example, if you are asked to provide multiple pages of your passport, you must scan and save all pages as one file.

    - You will be required to upload every requested form and document. You will not be able to proceed to the next steps until you upload every form/document.

    - A "help" feature provides you with more information about each form/document. The help text will appear below the list of documents.

    - The maximum size for each file is 4 MB (four megabytes). We accept these file formats:
    PDF (Portable Document)
    JPG, TIFF, or PNG (Image)
    DOC or DOCX (Microsoft Word Document.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭ManFromCheese


    is the programme open or wtf is going on??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭WasterEx


    is the programme open or wtf is going on??

    No not yet but you can enrol in the myCIC to have yourself prepared.

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/e-services/mycic.asp
    Scroll to the bottom and click the right box "GCkey Login".

    You can actually register on that page by reading the paragraph of information above the login dialogue boxes.
    You'll see 'Register' somewhere in the paragraph in blue font.

    https://clegc-gckey.gc.ca/j/eng/rg?execution=e1s1

    I'm not sure if the link above will work as it's a ref link but it should bring you straight to the register page.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭archicraft


    do we need to fill in the
    Application for Temporary Resident Visa (IMM5257 – Schedule 1)

    No! read site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tonto86


    Muffinman1 wrote: »
    Just got email off my friend who works in immigration in Canada and he says that is regarding someone who has already submitted a previous application but since I'm a totally new applicant it has to be 3 months. So can only take info for myself and my situation which is 3 and well I not taking risk regardless as there no 2ndchance of getting this right.

    As in why would everywhere else say 3 months and if you read question carefully on your link it is clearly stating with regards to previous application that they must have on file

    Ok, from what i'm reading on the IEC site and the email response is 12 months.
    Feel free to email them and ask.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭ManFromCheese


    archicraft wrote: »
    Yes, participant acceptance is granted after stage.1 success, then youre directed to the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

    after come to canada wizard is complete you will recieve the following
    personal checklist (please find attacted below) & then on to e-apps.

    absolutely simple:)




    what is the DFAIT Notice - Participation Acceptance about???
    it is looking for that form, cv/resume, passport or travel document, digital photo and family information form?

    Does this sound right??
    They never asked for any police clearance forms or anything to be uploaded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Muffinman1


    Tonto86 wrote: »

    Ok, from what i'm reading on the IEC site and the email response is 12 months.
    Feel free to email them and ask.
    No need for me as mine is within 3 months now but if you want to risk 12 months best of luck with it


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 RodimusPrime


    archicraft wrote: »
    Yes, participant acceptance is granted after stage.1 success, then youre directed to the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

    after come to canada wizard is complete you will recieve the following
    personal checklist (please find attacted below) & then on to e-apps.

    absolutely simple:)


    Thanks for your help Archicraft!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Accrual Intentions


    Tonto86 wrote: »
    Ok, from what i'm reading on the IEC site and the email response is 12 months.
    Feel free to email them and ask.

    I emailed them on Wednesday. No reply yet. But I'm just going to go and get a new cert anyway to be safe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭flynnser19


    This is confusing it gives you two ways to register how are you supposed to know which one to choose???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭ManFromCheese


    what is the DFAIT Notice - Participation Acceptance about???
    it is looking for that form, cv/resume, passport or travel document, digital photo and family information form?

    Does this sound right??
    They never asked for any police clearance forms or anything to be uploaded.


    Can anyone help me out here??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    hey mate your in the same boat as the rest of us so. you cant do anymore till it opens. that DFAIT is a form that will be sent to you when you complete the first stage of the iec:)
    For now its just sit back crack open a can and wait till it opens:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    Can anyone help me out here??

    Thing is we really won't know what forms they are going to want until the thing opens proper. We can speculate as much as possible based on what they required last year, but since it is all online etc they could throw a massive curve ball and change up the requirements completely, but until we know there is nothing we can do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭ManFromCheese


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    hey mate your in the same boat as the rest of us so. you cant do anymore till it opens. that DFAIT is a form that will be sent to you when you complete the first stage of the iec:)
    For now its just sit back crack open a can and wait till it opens:)

    cheers.

    so basically just register and get as far as i got as all i can do for now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    no bods mate it can be a bit of a panic filling it out was for me anyway:)
    Thats it to a tee mate all we do is wait now:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭flynnser19


    is anyone else having problems with opening the first form IMM1295 form, it keeps telling me i dont have the latest version of adobe but i downloaded it and it still says that??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Its not open yet thats why you cant fill it in?:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭jkell061


    Hi, dumb question, but the step 1 eligibility, can we do that now or are u saying its just a dry run? Will it have to be done from scratch when the programme opens or do it now and start from step 2 when its open?

    Thanks..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭ManFromCheese


    as far as i know, once you have it done thats it and you can upload documments and when the programme is open you just have to pay the fee and submit it. thats my reading of it anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Yea but we will have to fill out step 1 first which is the iec form which determines your eligibility and determines if you will get a conditional acceptance to continue on your process:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭ManFromCheese


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    Yea but we will have to fill out step 1 first which is the iec form which determines your eligibility and determines if you will get a conditional acceptance to continue on your process:)

    i get ya, so the process we have done so far we'll have to do again when it opens? so theres no point in oploading anything yet if it is not open is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    No we wont as we have MY CIC account set up so we wont have to do that again we just have to update it in due course.

    From my pint of view we have the MY CIC part done so basically when it opens we will have to fill out the iec part of it then depending on that of eligible or not we will be issued with the conditional of acceptance letter which will be put on the MY CIC where it state that letter.

    You can upload stuff if you want i have my passport and police cert and and photo loaded up. i am not going to upload my cv until i have completed stage 1 as i think that is the one that will be asking for work details so i want to make sure my cv dates match that:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Saffron Revolution


    Thanks for all the helpful information guys! With regards to the Police Cert, do we need to list every address we've ever lived at? I lived in Dublin for 7 years at different addresses but my home address in Kerry was always my main residence. My post was always sent to this address. Do you think they will cross reference my Resume against my Police Cert? Thanks in advance!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭ManFromCheese


    Thanks for all the helpful information guys! With regards to the Police Cert, do we need to list every address we've ever lived at? I lived in Dublin for 7 years at different addresses but my home address in Kerry was always my main residence. My post was always sent to this address. Do you think they will cross reference my Resume against my Police Cert? Thanks in advance!


    no your police cert is an internal thing, it doesnt matter what addresses are on which, once you have clearance it covers the whole country no matter where you lived eventhough you might have been issued the cert from your homeplace and not where you live


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭westerlywonder


    no your police cert is an internal thing, it doesnt matter what addresses are on which, once you have clearance it covers the whole country no matter where you lived eventhough you might have been issued the cert from your homeplace and not where you live

    My police/garda cert lists all my previous addresses. And in doing so these will be available to Canadian authorities once i upload it to their system.
    However there are no dates shown as to when i lived at these previous addresses.
    So given that there are no dates, they might find it hard to try match up or look for discrepancies that might exist with that and the CV you will upload.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭ManFromCheese


    My police/garda cert lists all my previous addresses. And in doing so these will be available to Canadian authorities once i upload it to their system.
    However there are no dates shown as to when i lived at these previous addresses.
    So given that there are no dates, they might find it hard to try match up or look for discrepancies that might exist with that and the CV you will upload.

    ya, I see what you mean....i dunno what to say to you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭westerlywonder


    Thanks for all the helpful information guys! With regards to the Police Cert, do we need to list every address we've ever lived at? I lived in Dublin for 7 years at different addresses but my home address in Kerry was always my main residence. My post was always sent to this address. Do you think they will cross reference my Resume against my Police Cert? Thanks in advance!
    ya, I see what you mean....i dunno what to say to you!

    lol, luckily it doesn't effect me, the response was mainly for Saffron


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  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mmm88


    Does anyone know if you have a driving offence I.e. put off the road would this effect the iec application or automatic refusal?? Thanks in advance


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