Some info on the IEC 2013- DOES NOT MEAN PROGRAMME IS OPEN!

Muffinman1 · 17-01-2013 7:59pm

Well yes but if you compare links;

From USIT (Who specialize in Visa)
http://www.usit.ie/work-abroad/canada/work-and-travel-canada-visa - 3 Months

From Canadian Government (Who obviously would know)
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp - 3 Months

From Canadian IEC Part of Canadian Government (Which states about it being to previous applications)
http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/ireland-irlande/experience_canada_experience/faq.aspx?view=d#PoliceCert - 12 Months

But in last link read quetion.
I obtained a police certificate that I submitted for a previous application to the IEC initiative. Will it still be valid if I apply again? Do I need a new police certificate?

Muffinman1 · 17-01-2013 8:00pm

Surfn wrote: »

should i register for MyCIC account tonight or do you have to wait till the IEC application opens

Can you register?
I think we have to complete first part regardless. Before CIC

archicraft · 17-01-2013 9:01pm

the following is the process in a nutshell :

Group 1: New Process – IEC application online to DFAIT and work permit application to CIC using e-Apps

In the new process, the following countries will use DFAIT’s IEC-Kompass system for the IEC portion (Stage 1) of the application. Applicants who meet the IEC eligibility requirements will be directed to use the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).
All IEC applications must be submitted electronically or returned to the client to submit online unless Web accessibility issues, as per Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat (TBS) Guidelines, are identified.

Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Germany, Greece, The Netherlands, Slovakia, Slovenia, Austria, Croatia, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Ireland and the United Kingdom.
Japan will initially use paper applications for the IEC portion and switch to IEC-Kompass mid-year. In both cases, DFAIT will direct all applicants to use e-Apps to apply for their work permit.
Australia will use their ‘in-house’ system for the IEC portion and then direct applicants to use e-Apps to apply for their work permit.
New Zealand will submit paper IEC applications to DFAIT and then direct applicants to e-Apps to apply for their work permit.

Paddy_kool · 17-01-2013 9:19pm

What is an IEC-kompass account??

westerlywonder · 17-01-2013 9:46pm

Accrual Intentions wrote: »

Thanks.

But theres no reason why we can't get to the bottom of this. You're both saying you have confirmation of different time limits.

Guys a police cert is free to obtain, and is generally issued within 2/3 days of request.
If yours is out of date by over the 3 months then the advice would be to get a new one issued.
That is Unless you have committed some offence since the last one was issued, then chance the old one you have.

RodimusPrime · 17-01-2013 10:00pm

Hi all!

I've been reading through this thread so far and it's been really helpful.

According to Operatoinal Bulletin 490 - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob490.asp

In the new process, the following countries will use DFAIT’s IEC-Kompass system for the IEC portion (Stage 1) of the application. Applicants who meet the IEC eligibility requirements will be directed to use the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

Does anyone know anything more about the DFAIT - Participant Acceptance Form? It says we have to submit it with our application. Maybe we get it after we pass the first stage??

Can anyone shed any light on this??

Thanks in advance!

archicraft · 17-01-2013 10:26pm

RodimusPrime wrote: »

Hi all!

I've been reading through this thread so far and it's been really helpful.

According to Operatoinal Bulletin 490 - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob490.asp

In the new process, the following countries will use DFAIT’s IEC-Kompass system for the IEC portion (Stage 1) of the application. Applicants who meet the IEC eligibility requirements will be directed to use the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

Does anyone know anything more about the DFAIT - Participant Acceptance Form? It says we have to submit it with our application. Maybe we get it after we pass the first stage??

Can anyone shed any light on this??

Thanks in advance!

Yes, participant acceptance is granted after stage.1 success, then youre directed to the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

after come to canada wizard is complete you will recieve the following
personal checklist (please find attacted below) & then on to e-apps.

absolutely simple:)

JustRoss23 · 17-01-2013 10:30pm

Thanks for that archicraft. is there anything i can do now as in fill in anything or is it just a matter of waiting till its open?:)

Muffinman1 · 17-01-2013 10:32pm

Can anyone answer for first time applicants, can we register for any of the areas?

Also archicraft can we use that attachment or is that a sample

archicraft · 17-01-2013 10:41pm

Muffinman1 wrote: »

Can anyone answer for first time applicants, can we register for any of the areas?

Also archicraft can we use that attachment or is that a sample

you can use the come to canada wizard as many times as you like,for practice, & every time it will generate ,for you, a personal checklist & code for the next stage(stage 2).

Muffinman1 · 17-01-2013 10:48pm

archicraft wrote: »

you can use the come to canada wizard as many times as you like,for practice, & every time it will generate ,for you, a personal checklist & code for the next stage(stage 2).

Which is come to canada wizard? Is that registration for for GC?

JustRoss23 · 17-01-2013 10:52pm

Hey quick question i am using the come to wizard for practice ..
iam have paid go4less to review my application( i don't no why) so what should i answer for this question?

Are you giving someone access to your application?

The answers to choose from are..
Yes, I will be appointing a representative to apply on my behalf
Yes, grant authorization for Citizenship and Immigration Canada to release your application information to another person? Yes, both appoint a representative and grant authorization to release information to another person.
any help with what answer to choose would be great.:)

againstthetide · 17-01-2013 10:57pm

JustRoss23 wrote: »

Hey quick question i am using the come to wizard for practice ..
iam have paid go4less to review my application( i don't no why) so what should i answer for this question?

Are you giving someone access to your application?

The answers to choose from are..
Yes, I will be appointing a representative to apply on my behalf
Yes, grant authorization for Citizenship and Immigration Canada to release your application information to another person? Yes, both appoint a representative and grant authorization to release information to another person.
any help with what answer to choose would be great.:)

Are go4less going to talk to Cic n your behalf or submit the application for you? If neither then answer no

Muffinman1 · 17-01-2013 10:57pm

I same as you and also at end where it says Signature of Applicant. What do we do, print form and scan or what?

Accrual Intentions · 17-01-2013 11:00pm

westerlywonder wrote: »

Guys a police cert is free to obtain, and is generally issued within 2/3 days of request.
If yours is out of date by over the 3 months then the advice would be to get a new one issued.
That is Unless you have committed some offence since the last one was issued, then chance the old one you have.

Unfortunately it's £80 up here in the Wee Six for an express one

Ah well, £80 for piece of mind - will get new one ordered tomorrow.

archicraft · 17-01-2013 11:14pm

Muffinman1 wrote: »

I same as you and also at end where it says Signature of Applicant. What do we do, print form and scan or what?

this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/ctc-vac/getting-started.asp

Muffinman1 · 17-01-2013 11:36pm

archicraft wrote: »

this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/ctc-vac/getting-started.asp

I know that but do you know the next form where you state employment history etc. It has Validate Form at end but how do we sign it?

JustRoss23 · 17-01-2013 11:40pm

sure we wont know till the application opens?

archicraft · 17-01-2013 11:42pm

Muffinman1 wrote: »

I know that but do you know the next form where you state employment history etc. It has Validate Form at end but how do we sign it?

sorry muffi, are you talking about : IMM1295 Application?

Muffinman1 · 18-01-2013 12:10am

archicraft wrote: »

sorry muffi, are you talking about : IMM1295 Application?

That's the form yeah.

dealhunter1985 · 18-01-2013 12:34am

do we need to fill in the
Application for Temporary Resident Visa (IMM5257 – Schedule 1)

archicraft · 18-01-2013 12:35am

Muffinman1 wrote: »

I know that but do you know the next form where you state employment history etc. It has Validate Form at end but how do we sign it?

save PDF when complete, Validate first, then print the final page ,sign & date, then scan. DONT FORGET THAT THIS IS JUST A DRY RUN.:)

WasterEx · 18-01-2013 12:48am

Grabbed this information from the myCIC, there's more information after that part but I figured this is the most important part.

Step 3: Upload your documents

Here are some guidelines for your documents:

- Your form(s) and document(s) must be in an electronic format.

- You do not need to sign your application form by hand if you submit your application form online. You will be asked to provide a digital signature once you are ready to transmit your documents to CIC.

- One file will be allowed per document type. For example, if you are asked to provide multiple pages of your passport, you must scan and save all pages as one file.

- You will be required to upload every requested form and document. You will not be able to proceed to the next steps until you upload every form/document.

- A "help" feature provides you with more information about each form/document. The help text will appear below the list of documents.

- The maximum size for each file is 4 MB (four megabytes). We accept these file formats:
PDF (Portable Document)
JPG, TIFF, or PNG (Image)
DOC or DOCX (Microsoft Word Document.

ManFromCheese · 18-01-2013 12:51am

is the programme open or wtf is going on??

WasterEx · 18-01-2013 12:55am

ManFromCheese wrote: »

is the programme open or wtf is going on??

No not yet but you can enrol in the myCIC to have yourself prepared.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/e-services/mycic.asp
Scroll to the bottom and click the right box "GCkey Login".

You can actually register on that page by reading the paragraph of information above the login dialogue boxes.
You'll see 'Register' somewhere in the paragraph in blue font.

https://clegc-gckey.gc.ca/j/eng/rg?execution=e1s1

I'm not sure if the link above will work as it's a ref link but it should bring you straight to the register page.

archicraft · 18-01-2013 1:00am

dealhunter1985 wrote: »

do we need to fill in the
Application for Temporary Resident Visa (IMM5257 – Schedule 1)

No! read site

Tonto86 · 18-01-2013 4:30am

Muffinman1 wrote: »

Just got email off my friend who works in immigration in Canada and he says that is regarding someone who has already submitted a previous application but since I'm a totally new applicant it has to be 3 months. So can only take info for myself and my situation which is 3 and well I not taking risk regardless as there no 2ndchance of getting this right.

As in why would everywhere else say 3 months and if you read question carefully on your link it is clearly stating with regards to previous application that they must have on file

Ok, from what i'm reading on the IEC site and the email response is 12 months.
Feel free to email them and ask.

ManFromCheese · 18-01-2013 6:39am

archicraft wrote: »

Yes, participant acceptance is granted after stage.1 success, then youre directed to the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

after come to canada wizard is complete you will recieve the following
personal checklist (please find attacted below) & then on to e-apps.

absolutely simple:)

what is the DFAIT Notice - Participation Acceptance about???
it is looking for that form, cv/resume, passport or travel document, digital photo and family information form?

Does this sound right??
They never asked for any police clearance forms or anything to be uploaded.

Muffinman1 · 18-01-2013 8:18am

Tonto86 wrote: »

Ok, from what i'm reading on the IEC site and the email response is 12 months.
Feel free to email them and ask.

No need for me as mine is within 3 months now but if you want to risk 12 months best of luck with it

RodimusPrime · 18-01-2013 10:12am

archicraft wrote: »

Yes, participant acceptance is granted after stage.1 success, then youre directed to the Come to Canada Wizard and MyCIC (e-App) to apply for their work permit (Stage 2).

after come to canada wizard is complete you will recieve the following
personal checklist (please find attacted below) & then on to e-apps.

absolutely simple:)

Thanks for your help Archicraft!

Accrual Intentions · 18-01-2013 10:50am

Tonto86 wrote: »

Ok, from what i'm reading on the IEC site and the email response is 12 months.
Feel free to email them and ask.

I emailed them on Wednesday. No reply yet. But I'm just going to go and get a new cert anyway to be safe.

flynnser19 · 18-01-2013 12:04pm

This is confusing it gives you two ways to register how are you supposed to know which one to choose???

ManFromCheese · 18-01-2013 5:10pm

ManFromCheese wrote: »

what is the DFAIT Notice - Participation Acceptance about???
it is looking for that form, cv/resume, passport or travel document, digital photo and family information form?

Does this sound right??
They never asked for any police clearance forms or anything to be uploaded.

Can anyone help me out here??

JustRoss23 · 18-01-2013 5:14pm

hey mate your in the same boat as the rest of us so. you cant do anymore till it opens. that DFAIT is a form that will be sent to you when you complete the first stage of the iec:)
For now its just sit back crack open a can and wait till it opens:)

hdowney · 18-01-2013 5:16pm

ManFromCheese wrote: »

Can anyone help me out here??

Thing is we really won't know what forms they are going to want until the thing opens proper. We can speculate as much as possible based on what they required last year, but since it is all online etc they could throw a massive curve ball and change up the requirements completely, but until we know there is nothing we can do.

ManFromCheese · 18-01-2013 6:44pm

JustRoss23 wrote: »

hey mate your in the same boat as the rest of us so. you cant do anymore till it opens. that DFAIT is a form that will be sent to you when you complete the first stage of the iec:)
For now its just sit back crack open a can and wait till it opens:)

cheers.

so basically just register and get as far as i got as all i can do for now?

JustRoss23 · 18-01-2013 6:49pm

no bods mate it can be a bit of a panic filling it out was for me anyway:)
Thats it to a tee mate all we do is wait now:)

flynnser19 · 18-01-2013 6:50pm

is anyone else having problems with opening the first form IMM1295 form, it keeps telling me i dont have the latest version of adobe but i downloaded it and it still says that??

JustRoss23 · 18-01-2013 6:52pm

Its not open yet thats why you cant fill it in?:)

jkell061 · 19-01-2013 10:58pm

Hi, dumb question, but the step 1 eligibility, can we do that now or are u saying its just a dry run? Will it have to be done from scratch when the programme opens or do it now and start from step 2 when its open?

Thanks..

ManFromCheese · 19-01-2013 11:01pm

as far as i know, once you have it done thats it and you can upload documments and when the programme is open you just have to pay the fee and submit it. thats my reading of it anyway

JustRoss23 · 19-01-2013 11:11pm

Yea but we will have to fill out step 1 first which is the iec form which determines your eligibility and determines if you will get a conditional acceptance to continue on your process:)

ManFromCheese · 20-01-2013 12:04am

JustRoss23 wrote: »

Yea but we will have to fill out step 1 first which is the iec form which determines your eligibility and determines if you will get a conditional acceptance to continue on your process:)

i get ya, so the process we have done so far we'll have to do again when it opens? so theres no point in oploading anything yet if it is not open is it?

JustRoss23 · 20-01-2013 12:16am

No we wont as we have MY CIC account set up so we wont have to do that again we just have to update it in due course.

From my pint of view we have the MY CIC part done so basically when it opens we will have to fill out the iec part of it then depending on that of eligible or not we will be issued with the conditional of acceptance letter which will be put on the MY CIC where it state that letter.

You can upload stuff if you want i have my passport and police cert and and photo loaded up. i am not going to upload my cv until i have completed stage 1 as i think that is the one that will be asking for work details so i want to make sure my cv dates match that:)

Saffron Revolution · 21-01-2013 6:27pm

Thanks for all the helpful information guys! With regards to the Police Cert, do we need to list every address we've ever lived at? I lived in Dublin for 7 years at different addresses but my home address in Kerry was always my main residence. My post was always sent to this address. Do you think they will cross reference my Resume against my Police Cert? Thanks in advance!

ManFromCheese · 21-01-2013 6:59pm

Saffron Revolution wrote: »

Thanks for all the helpful information guys! With regards to the Police Cert, do we need to list every address we've ever lived at? I lived in Dublin for 7 years at different addresses but my home address in Kerry was always my main residence. My post was always sent to this address. Do you think they will cross reference my Resume against my Police Cert? Thanks in advance!

no your police cert is an internal thing, it doesnt matter what addresses are on which, once you have clearance it covers the whole country no matter where you lived eventhough you might have been issued the cert from your homeplace and not where you live

westerlywonder · 21-01-2013 7:09pm

ManFromCheese wrote: »

no your police cert is an internal thing, it doesnt matter what addresses are on which, once you have clearance it covers the whole country no matter where you lived eventhough you might have been issued the cert from your homeplace and not where you live

My police/garda cert lists all my previous addresses. And in doing so these will be available to Canadian authorities once i upload it to their system.
However there are no dates shown as to when i lived at these previous addresses.
So given that there are no dates, they might find it hard to try match up or look for discrepancies that might exist with that and the CV you will upload.

ManFromCheese · 21-01-2013 7:20pm

westerlywonder wrote: »

My police/garda cert lists all my previous addresses. And in doing so these will be available to Canadian authorities once i upload it to their system.
However there are no dates shown as to when i lived at these previous addresses.
So given that there are no dates, they might find it hard to try match up or look for discrepancies that might exist with that and the CV you will upload.

ya, I see what you mean....i dunno what to say to you!

westerlywonder · 21-01-2013 7:29pm

Saffron Revolution wrote: »

Thanks for all the helpful information guys! With regards to the Police Cert, do we need to list every address we've ever lived at? I lived in Dublin for 7 years at different addresses but my home address in Kerry was always my main residence. My post was always sent to this address. Do you think they will cross reference my Resume against my Police Cert? Thanks in advance!

ManFromCheese wrote: »

ya, I see what you mean....i dunno what to say to you!

lol, luckily it doesn't effect me, the response was mainly for Saffron

mmm88 · 21-01-2013 7:41pm

Does anyone know if you have a driving offence I.e. put off the road would this effect the iec application or automatic refusal?? Thanks in advance

Some info on the IEC 2013- DOES NOT MEAN PROGRAMME IS OPEN!

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