Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

jordainius · 18-01-2013 06:48PM

Another way of looking at it, 100k a week over 3.5 years comes to £18.2M, signing on fee rumoured to be £3M, so a total outlay of about £21M. If he left for nothing in the summer, we'd probably spend a lot more on a replacement in terms of wages + transfer fee, so economically speaking this is a good investment.

premierstone · 18-01-2013 06:50PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Obviously playing with Arsenal for 6/7 seasons is an advantage compared to a new-comer like Giroud.

Its a completely new team though and I don't where the comparisons with Giroud have come from tbh? Not fair on either player imo.

wonga77 · 18-01-2013 06:56PM

Johan Djourou starts for Hannover against Schalke tonight. Interesting to see how he gets on

12gauge dave · 18-01-2013 07:02PM

He was worth keeping in the hopes he improves in next 2 seasons!
100k a week is alot less than what hed earn at any other club hed go to so bargain really

18-01-2013 07:06PM

JPA wrote: »

Good for Arsenal that he signed but it seems like it was very much on his terms.

He wanted 100k a week for 5 years, and Arsenal eventually offered him 90k a week for 5 years but he said he'd prefer 3.5 years at 100k plus 3 mill signing on fee.

Seems to be very much on his terms and the club didn't want another big name to go.

So they're giving him 10k per week more than he demanded? Wow Arsenal are bad at negotiating.

Irish Aris · 18-01-2013 07:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So they're giving him 10k per week more than he demanded? Wow Arsenal are bad at negotiating.

?????? you lost me here. . .

18-01-2013 07:29PM

Irish Aris wrote: »

?????? you lost me here. . .

It's maths. They gave him the 100k per week he wanted but also 3million over 3.5 years which is between 9k and 10k per week.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 18-01-2013 07:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's maths. They gave him the 100k per week he wanted but also 3million over 3.5 years which is between 9k and 10k per week.

There would have been a signing on fee either way, it's not hard to understand.

iainconlon12 · 18-01-2013 08:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So they're giving him 10k per week more than he demanded? Wow Arsenal are bad at negotiating.

Do you honestly believe that? haha! Highly doubt Arsenal offered him more than he demanded after the last year of negotiating.

Let's hope he earns the 100k per week now anyway. I can see him going back to his old frustrating self now though :P

Mr.Micro · 18-01-2013 08:35PM

iainconlon12 wrote: »

Do you honestly believe that? haha! Highly doubt Arsenal offered him more than he demanded after the last year of negotiating.

Let's hope he earns the 100k per week now anyway. I can see him going back to his old frustrating self now though :P

Indeed, he needs to show he is worth all the fuss and expense. Personally I think he is not, after all his years at Arsenal. Still if he plays through the middle as he is now he may get better as he can unsettle any defence with his speed, so I hope he grasps the opportunity. He is probably our signing for January

bad2dabone · 18-01-2013 08:41PM

I think he's an intelligent person, he always comes across as such in interviews. Since he's got a brain in his head I'm certain he'll improve as a player and as was said, we'd find it hard to replace him (not just as a player but in terms of club image and morale) for 21m (wages included). He's also got a good image and is very marketable, and its a vote of confidence in the club from another young english star. I'm very happy he's signed up and now i can hope that Arsene splashes some cash on making the squad stronger. The way the league is going this year if we were consistent we can push on into third. With a couple of quality signings and a bit of confidence we can give bayern a game.

MaxPower89 · 18-01-2013 09:32PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Johan Djourou starts for Hannover against Schalke tonight. Interesting to see how he gets on

They shipped 5 goals in the game, losing 5 - 4. Only 1/2 watched it so hard to judge if he was at fault or what, but safe to assume he is poor. Holtby played well, 2 assists and a goal.

andrew241983 · 18-01-2013 10:08PM

jordainius wrote: »

Another way of looking at it, 100k a week over 3.5 years comes to £18.2M, signing on fee rumoured to be £3M, so a total outlay of about £21M. If he left for nothing in the summer, we'd probably spend a lot more on a replacement in terms of wages + transfer fee, so economically speaking this is a good investment.

Ye but we would get a much better player for that money so I don't agree it's a good investment he is not worth anywhere near 100k a week and wasn't bothered if he stayed or went!!! would never have come back and hurt us

greendom · 18-01-2013 10:48PM

@optahjoe 31% - Theo Walcott has the best chance conversion rate of any player in the 2012-13 PL with more than 5 goals (excluding penalties). Signed.

bad2dabone · 18-01-2013 10:48PM

it would hurt the club in terms of it being another player who we put the work into to develop to a certain level who then says "thanks, i'm off!"

it was crucial to get him to sign. for what it represents

emergingstar · 18-01-2013 10:58PM

Betis want to keep Campbell on loan again next season

Boooooooooooo to that

gnfnrhead · 18-01-2013 11:03PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Betis want to keep Campbell on loan again next season

Boooooooooooo to that

Depends on who we sign. We can't be relying on a youngster to take the weight in his first season. If we sign someone else (or what we have start banging them in) let him go again then ease him in the following year.

emergingstar · 18-01-2013 11:07PM

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Depends on who we sign. We can't be relying on a youngster to take the weight in his first season. If we sign someone else (or what we have start banging them in) let him go again then ease him in the following year.

Yeah in all serious if we sign a big name maybe he would be better off in Betis for another year

In other news reports in France say Newcastle have agreed 8m deal for Mbiwa

(Crosses another one of the list )

TimeToShine · 18-01-2013 11:30PM

Jaysus your man on ESPN press pass just destroyed Walcott.

Marty McFly · 18-01-2013 11:47PM

TimeToShine wrote: »

Jaysus your man on ESPN press pass just destroyed Walcott.

How so?

TimeToShine · 19-01-2013 12:25AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

How so?

It was Stewart Robson, he just said how we'd let players like Hleb, Fabregas, RVP go without breaking the bank for them and then when we did do it we chose "the least intelligent player out of all of them". then he says "i don't even know if the top 4 clubs (chelsea, united, city and liverpool) would pay 60k/70k a week for him on a free let alone 100k".

i've been critical of Walcott but this lad really took the biscuit.

Marty McFly · 19-01-2013 12:27AM

TimeToShine wrote: »

It was Stewart Robson, he just said how we'd let players like Hleb, Fabregas, RVP go without breaking the bank for them and then when we did do it we chose "the least intelligent player out of all of them". then he says "i don't even know if the top 4 clubs (chelsea, united, city and liverpool) would pay 60k/70k a week for him on a free let alone 100k".

i've been critical of Walcott but this lad really took the biscuit.

Sure sounds like he did alright Ive never been a big fan of ESPN's coverage.

Top 4 clubs and Liverpool in the same sentence now I havent heard that in a long long time

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19-01-2013 12:40AM

"Stewart Robson is perhaps the most bitter man in football, so bitter in fact that he was fired by Arsenal for being so biased against the club that was paying his wages that the fans complained in their hundreds (if not thousands), pleading with Arsenal to remove him (my words and reason, not theirs) so it really comes as no surprise that since his sacking he has got even more bitter."

http://www.arsenalnews.co.uk/robson-i-would-have-sacked-wenger-four-years-ago/link/665783/

He is incredibly biased against us for some reason.

dvemail · 19-01-2013 12:41AM

Woah, that harsh. Pretty sure Fabregas didn't leave for the money as i doubt he is on more at Barcelona than what he was on here.
Only RVP left for money, and we could never match the 200K + a week he is on at Utd.

Is it me or do a lot of ESPN's commentators just hate Arsenal. After listening to that Burley lad commentating against Swansea don't think i could take much more of their spout.

greendom · 19-01-2013 12:49AM

Take anything Robson says with a huge pinch of salt. He never says anything good about Arsenal and is absolutely desperate for Arsene to be fired.

ErinGoBrath · 19-01-2013 01:08AM

TimeToShine wrote: »

It was Stewart Robson, he just said how we'd let players like Hleb, Fabregas, RVP go without breaking the bank for them and then when we did do it we chose "the least intelligent player out of all of them". then he says "i don't even know if the top 4 clubs (chelsea, united, city and liverpool) would pay 60k/70k a week for him on a free let alone 100k".

i've been critical of Walcott but this lad really took the biscuit.

I didn't see the interview but based on your synopsis I'd completely agree with Robson. I'm sure the majority of fellow gunners will disagree but deep down you know Robsons right.

Walcott has pace and a nice finish of late. He really lacks the intellegence, strength, spacial awareness and technical ability of Fab, RvP, Hleb, Ade, Nasri etc

DB10 · 19-01-2013 01:12AM

dvemail wrote: »

Only RVP left for money, and we could never match the 200K + a week he is on at Utd.
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That's delusional, if we won or had a realistic chance of winning trophies he would have stayed. He did not move for money I doubt even Wenger would say as much. He could have got more at City if he wanted it. Hes a world class player on his last contract why would he stay with us in all fairness. All things said and done it still rangles seeing him there.

greendom · 19-01-2013 01:13AM

ErinGoBrath wrote: »

I didn't see the interview but based on your synopsis I'd completely agree with Robson. I'm sure the majority of fellow gunners will disagree but deep down you know Robsons right.

Walcott has pace and a nice finish of late. He really lacks the intellegence, strength, spacial awareness and technical ability of Fab, RvP, Hleb, Ade, Nasri etc

Well i'd rather have Walcott than all but the first 2 on your list.

Marty McFly · 19-01-2013 01:17AM

greendom wrote: »

Well i'd rather have Walcott than all but the first 2 on your list.

Agreed Hleb while technically gifted frustrated the hell out of me at times he really was afraid to shoot could be five yards from goal and he would pass backwards look how well his career has gone since he left Arsenal, Nasri has always been over rated had one good 6 months for us compare his goals scored and assists record to Theo's, Ade once again ask any fan of the clubs hes played for since he left Arsenal what they think of him and his performances.

DB10 · 19-01-2013 01:18AM

ErinGoBrath wrote: »

I didn't see the interview but based on your synopsis I'd completely agree with Robson. I'm sure the majority of fellow gunners will disagree but deep down you know Robsons right.

Walcott has pace and a nice finish of late. He really lacks the intellegence, strength, spacial awareness and technical ability of Fab, RvP, Hleb, Ade, Nasri etc

Only RVP and Fabregas were worth big money contracts out of those. And both were already on big money, and had no interest in staying for more.

The others probably would, they strike me as mercenaries. I'm happy they left none of them are top class players , were all easily enough replaced and werent worth that money.

Walcott is somewhere in between but I think selling him would effectively make the club a bigger laughing stock than it already is. He will improve, we need quality signings to help take pressure of him and Giroud.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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