Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

emergingstar

Supposedly Newcastles accepted bid for mbiwa has made us make a bid

We wanted him in summer but have to move now

Lets see

jonneymendoza

Marty McFly wrote: »

Im sorry im not buying the that team didnt win because of the board, at one stage we had Fabregas, RVP, Nasri, Gallas, Clichy, Toure etc all in the one team players who had either won or went onto to win trophies.

That was a team that should have been capable of winning trophies and didnt because the players let themselves, Arsene and the fans down with a lack of desire and drive its a bit rich blaming the board on that one.

They all forced there way out of the club for better money you can blame the board on that one yes but you cant blame them on the club not winning trophies when they were all on the books together, they all at one point or another went missing in games and as individuals failed to stand up and be counted.

THIS!

ALL those traitors left for money. instead of looking at themselves in the mirror saying "u know what, i ****ed up in game xyz, its my fault we did not win fa and i am not going to bail out on the fans and my boss, i am going to stay here and put everything right and win this club and the fans and try my best to win a trophy"

Instead this is them "another trophyless season, Hey look, club xyz are interested in me and prepared to triple my wages, time to jump ship hehe and earn some nice money, i will just make up some BS excuse on how i am looking for a new challenge/my current club lacks desire/im homesick and miss my pet dog at home in spain etc etc. cya Arsene, good luck on your quest for winning something lol"

that statement goes for rvp, adebayor, clichy, fabregas, hleb etc etc

Ed Winchester

Fabregas was different.

jonneymendoza

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Fabregas was different.

yea he missed his pet dog from spain :pac:

TimeToShine

Can you blame them for leaving for double the wages and a higher chance of winning trophies though? Just think about it, of what possible benefit could it be to them if they'd stayed? Great players have great aspirations, and if the club doesn't match these aspirations, be it through the way they play, are managed or spend money, then they have the right to leave. Nasri was a good bit of business, we got £24M for him, Fabregas however I am annoyed at purely because we got bullied by Barcelona, he had 4 years left and was worth 40M at the least, we got 24+10 in add ons.

Ed Winchester

The problem with the Fabregas deal was there was no other club to play off Barca. Cesc wanted to go home, there wasn't another club in the world he'd have signed for. Makes it difficult. 34million was well paid though in the end IMO. If there was a bidding war for him it might have ramped up the price.

.jacksparrow.

Kind of sad thinking of what could have been.

sonic85

cesc and kolo traitors who left for money? bullsh!t i say

gnfnrhead

sonic85 wrote: »

cesc and kolo traitors who left for money? bullsh!t i say

Cesc pretty much went on strike to force the move through.

dvemail

But Cesc was genetically programmed to go home. Like a young swallow migrating to a warmer climate.

sonic85

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Cesc pretty much went on strike to force the move through.

everybody knows theres little or no loyalty in football nowadays why would he stay? as far as im concerned fabregas was brilliant for us for a number of years but just wasnt happy at the club anymore. what do you do - keep a player who clearly wants out? and if you do force them to stay what then? you have a player on the books that has the potential of not trying a leg in games and possibly being a destructive influence in the dressing room.

fact is its the clubs responsibility to put a good team of players around the likes of cesc and give him the proper platform to try and win trophies. we didnt do it - couldnt match his ambitions so he left. i dont hold a grudge against him and hope he achieves everything he wants to in the game.

some people actually expect top players to remain with a club even if they dont pay top money and have no chance of winning anything. daft really.

the only thing i was pi$$ed with was that we got fcuk all for him but he was always going to go to barca so that limited the amount we could get for him

danlen

The most depressing thing is thinking about what might have been. Yes, we had Cesc, RVP, Clichy, Nasri, Adebayor, Hleb, etc, but I really believe that team was broken up waaaayyy before its peak.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help thinking about that Birmingham game back when Eduardo broke his leg. I truly believe that had they not scored that late equaliser, we would have one the league. God knows what our team would have been like now.

As I say depressing.

batistuta9

emergingstar wrote: »

Juve chairman saying they turned down a 30m bid for Vidal
Wonder was it us
Prob not

and by turned down a bit you mean they had no offers :pac:

Juventus director Giuseppe Marotta has insisted that the club have received "no offers" for Arturo Vidal.

It had recently been claimed that Pep Guardiola's new club Bayern Munich had shown an interest in the Chilean international and that they could even submit a bid during this month's transfer window.

However, Marotta has revealed that no bids have been submitted and that the club would not welcome any either.

"It's no surprise that Bayern want Vidal, but there have been no offers. We are, in any case, more accustomed to buying than selling," he told reporters.

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/juventus/transfer-talk/news/no-offers-for-arturo-vidal_65009.html

Barlett

danlen wrote: »

The most depressing thing is thinking about what might have been. Yes, we had Cesc, RVP, Clichy, Nasri, Adebayor, Hleb, etc, but I really believe that team was broken up waaaayyy before its peak.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help thinking about that Birmingham game back when Eduardo broke his leg. I truly believe that had they not scored that late equaliser, we would have one the league. God knows what our team would have been like now.

As I say depressing.

Yeah it was a great team, the one to succeed the invincibles, Wenger didn't expect them to break up after just one year, no one did and the team has been in transition ever since.

Here is what Fabregas said, it wasn't taken out of context either, he said it just after he signed for Barca “It wasn’t really the losing, it was the routine. Year after year, it was always the same story. Fighting until the end only to see we didn’t have the energy, in the semifinals, the finals, to arrive in the final sprint.”

Ed Winchester

Predictions for today lads?

Hard to see us getting a win. Hopeful of at least a point and a good performance.

Soups123

I am optimistic for a win, Chelsea have problems at home, the fans seem more concerned with having a go at Benitez than getting behind the team. I think we need to score first to win though.

If we can start strong, get a goal it's there for the taking

Ed Winchester

I'd like to see a line up of:

Chesney

Sagna Mert Verm Gibbs

Coq Diaby
Jack

Theo Cazorla
Giroud

Marty McFly

Ed Winchester wrote: »

I'd like to see a line up of:

Chesney

Sagna Mert Verm Gibbs

Coq Diaby
Jack

Theo Cazorla
Giroud

Id go with that except id swap Podolski for Giroud if I had the choice.

greendom

Marty McFly wrote: »

Id go with that except id swap Podolski for Giroud if I had the choice.

Podolski is struggling with an illness

.jacksparrow.

Pmt,2 1 to the gooners,come on!

Oranage2

Not really confident though I'll go 1-1.

Walcott to score in the 5 minute, hazard to score in the 90th min.


That or 5 nil chelsea.

emergingstar

Think we will win today first time this season I have been confident going into a big game
Walcott to get 2

Marty McFly

Match threads here, moderators need to do a job on this one .



http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056860008



http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056860007

Lose today and we're 11 off 3rd and 6 off 4th, could really do with at least a point today.

Ed Winchester

Wenger off to PSG in a £30mill deal according to the Sunday rags!

tayto lover

I think we can get a result today. Against Swansea I felt that our full-backs played well for the first time in awhile. If we are to win then the team, especially our centre-backs, must focus fully and remain alert (unlike against City). We have the players in midfield to trouble any team when on song and Diaby should be now fit.

Soups123

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Wenger off to PSG in a £30mill deal according to the Sunday rags!

Pure bull, sure it says they are swapping managers with us so taking ours and appoint Ancelotti as his replacement, so nice of them. Pure rag sh*t how people read it is beyond me

Mickeroo

I was optimistic before the city game too, but the red card really screwed that match imo. I reckon we can get a result today, in the second half against city and the game during the week the team showed a lot of fight and passion which has been absent for most of the season. Here's hoping at least.

Marty McFly

Confirmed by Rennes that M'Vila will leave the club tomorrow would love it to be us that is signing him but highly doubt it.

Mickeroo

Marty McFly wrote: »

Confirmed by Rennes that M'Vila will leave the club tomorrow would love it to be us that is signing him but highly doubt it.

Pretty sure it's QPR (or Spurs possibly) at this stage.