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HMV going into administration

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  • #422
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    HMV stores in Ireland should honour gift vouchers, says consumer agency
    THE NATIONAL CONSUMER Agency (NCA) has said that HMV stores in Ireland should accept gift vouchers having established that the company’s Irish operation has not entered administration or examinership in the Republic......................
    However, the NCA said today that it has now clarified that HMV in the Republic of Ireland is a separate corporate entity to the UK operation and HMV Ireland Ltd is not currently in administration or examinership.
    It is therefore calling on Irish stores to honour “contracts with consumers and accept all gift vouchers with immediate effect”.


  • #423
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Correct me if I'm wrong but the NCA doesn't actually have the power to enforce that, do they?


  • #424
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,584 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Custardpi wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong but the NCA doesn't actually have the power to enforce that, do they?
    I don't think so... they're simply a resource for consumer rights.


  • #425
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Whilst HMV and their security staff were not willing to pursue a grandad, I doubt they will apply that level of leniency to anyone else who tries this.

    I notice grandad didn't hand over the voucher or pay the surplus - this is plainly and simply theft. A fine example to set for your grandkids.

    Before I get shouted down from on high, I'm not excusing HMV for not honouring the gift tokens, but this is not the way to tackle this!


  • #426
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Custardpi wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong but the NCA doesn't actually have the power to enforce that, do they?


    They have zero legislative or enforcement powers. They are simply an advisory body.


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  • #427
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    They have zero legislative or enforcement powers. They are simply an advisory body.

    Yeah, that's what I thought. So the chances of HMV paying them any heed probably aren't the best, eh?


  • #428
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,773 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    Whilst HMV and their security staff were not willing to pursue a grandad, I doubt they will apply that level of leniency to anyone else who tries this.

    I notice grandad didn't hand over the voucher or pay the surplus - this is plainly and simply theft. A fine example to set for your grandkids.

    Before I get shouted down from on high, I'm not excusing HMV for not honouring the gift tokens, but this is not the way to tackle this!

    Bet he was the kind of git that gives ordinary staff members abuse about things they have no control over.


  • #429
    Plazaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    Whilst HMV and theior security staff were not willing to pursue a grandad, I doubt they will apply that level of leniency to anyone else who tries this.

    I notice grandad didn't hand over the voucher or pay the surplus - this is plainly and simply theft. A fine example to set for your grandkids.

    Before I get shouted down from on high, I'm not excusing HMV for not honouring the gift tokens, but this is not the way to tackle this!

    This is exactly what I said in the Indos comment section, that the man is basically a thief and got called pedantic for my troubles (my second post in reply to that failed to make it past the moderators). Yes fúck off HMV for selling vouchers before Christmas with no intention of honouring them but walking into a shop, talking three or four items and walking out saying I'll post the money to ye is theivery. The staff said they wouldn't accept vouchers but if he said "Tough, here they are anyway with the balance of the money, what you do with them is your business", then at least he made a genuine effort to make a transaction.


  • #430
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,415 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Grandad walks out of HMV with computer games after staff refuse to accept gift voucher


    Fair play to this guy

    Fair play to him? The man's an idiot.

    Step 1 - Commit theft from a retail store.
    Step 2 - Confess to crime in national newspaper and pose for photographs with stolen goods.
    Step 3 - ??????


  • #431
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    efb wrote: »
    He stole those items, he didnt pay for them.

    No, I believe he was perfectly within his rights.
    Pedantic shematics is thrumped by a good dollop of common sense.


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  • #432
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    Whilst HMV and their security staff were not willing to pursue a grandad, I doubt they will apply that level of leniency to anyone else who tries this.

    I notice grandad didn't hand over the voucher or pay the surplus - this is plainly and simply theft. A fine example to set for your grandkids.

    Before I get shouted down from on high, I'm not excusing HMV for not honouring the gift tokens, but this is not the way to tackle this!


    I have a read of your post & consider it to be bollix of the highest order.
    Good day.


  • #433
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Rabidlamb wrote: »

    No, I believe he was perfectly within his rights.
    Pedantic shematics is thrumped by a good dollop of common sense.

    No he isn't.


  • #434
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    leader's questions in the Dail shortly, hopefully someone will raise the issue.


  • #435
    Tazz T
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    The man paid for the goods in advance. The company are trying to steal his money without giving him the goods.

    The company is wrong. How can you steal something you've paid for?


  • #436
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Fair play to him? The man's an idiot.

    Step 1 - Commit theft from a retail store.
    Step 2 - Confess to crime in national newspaper and pose for photographs with stolen goods.
    Step 3 - ??????

    Step 3 post the vouchers and balance to HMV as stated


  • #437
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    No he isn't.

    Oh yes he is . . . .


  • #438
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Rabidlamb wrote: »

    Oh yes he is . . . .

    You believe what you want.


  • #439
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    I have a read of your post & consider it to be bollix of the highest order.
    Good day.

    LOL

    Fair play - at least you wished him "Good day". :D


  • #440
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    You believe what you want.

    You believe what you're told


  • #441
    Theta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    You believe what you're told

    I can understand you thining that if he left the vouchers in the shop with the 6 euro but he took them with him. He took the games and the vouchers. How is that different then someone with money in their wallet walking out with the items?


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  • #442
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Biggins wrote: »
    LOL

    Fair play - at least you wished him "Good day". :D

    Attacking the post but never the poster.
    We have rules god damn it.


  • #443
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Man, I wish the games he stole were ones where they keep the discs in a draw behind the counter. That would have been f*cking brilliant :D


  • #444
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Biggins wrote: »

    LOL

    Fair play - at least you wished him "Good day". :D

    Oh the rabble rousing has arrived. I wonder how long before this gets blamed on FG and Labour


  • #445
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    granddad is still a thieving git.

    your post is wrong.


  • #446
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Theta wrote: »
    I can understand you thining that if he left the vouchers in the shop with the 6 euro but he took them with him. He took the games and the vouchers. How is that different then someone with money in their wallet walking out with the items?

    Heat of the moment, red mist descended, not thinking straight.
    I'll give him a pass on the voucher thing owing to the stress the staff put him under.
    Plus he gave an interview, heart was in the right place I think.


  • #447
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,584 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Just saw there that Grafton Street closed this morning..

    .. and "will remain closed until an examiner is appointed" according to a source.


  • #448
    Theta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Heat of the moment, red mist descended, not thinking straight.
    I'll give him a pass on the voucher thing owing to the stress the staff put him under.
    Plus he gave an interview, heart was in the right place I think.

    Did he commit a crime? yes or no? regardless of if his heart is in the right place.

    Did he take items from a shop without payment?


  • #449
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    What legal right do HMV have for refusing to honor their vouchers in Ireland? They are breaking their own terms and conditions by not giving notice that the vouchers would cease to be honored. They are not in administration or examinership in ROI


  • #450
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    I have a read of your post & consider it to be bollix of the highest order.
    Good day.

    Wow. Intelligent debating of the facts there.


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  • #451
    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    blackwhite wrote: »

    Fair play to him? The man's an idiot.

    Step 1 - Commit theft from a retail store.
    Step 2 - Confess to crime in national newspaper and pose for photographs with stolen goods.
    Step 3 - ??????
    Step 4 - Profit


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