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HMV going into administration

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If you have a gift voucher from the troubled music store chain - REDEEM IT ASAP.

According to Sky News.

Directors of HMV are this evening locked in talks about the retailer’s future amid growing concern that it could become the latest big-name high street chain to succumb to the flat-lining British economy.

http://news.sky.com/story/1038002/hmv-board-in-crisis-talks-over-chains-future

Sad news.

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Boombastic

HMV stores in Ireland should honour gift vouchers, says consumer agency
THE NATIONAL CONSUMER Agency (NCA) has said that HMV stores in Ireland should accept gift vouchers having established that the company’s Irish operation has not entered administration or examinership in the Republic......................
However, the NCA said today that it has now clarified that HMV in the Republic of Ireland is a separate corporate entity to the UK operation and HMV Ireland Ltd is not currently in administration or examinership.
It is therefore calling on Irish stores to honour “contracts with consumers and accept all gift vouchers with immediate effect”.

Custardpi

Correct me if I'm wrong but the NCA doesn't actually have the power to enforce that, do they?

Basq

Custardpi wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but the NCA doesn't actually have the power to enforce that, do they?

I don't think so... they're simply a resource for consumer rights.

ButtersSuki

Whilst HMV and their security staff were not willing to pursue a grandad, I doubt they will apply that level of leniency to anyone else who tries this.

I notice grandad didn't hand over the voucher or pay the surplus - this is plainly and simply theft. A fine example to set for your grandkids.

Before I get shouted down from on high, I'm not excusing HMV for not honouring the gift tokens, but this is not the way to tackle this!

ButtersSuki

Custardpi wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but the NCA doesn't actually have the power to enforce that, do they?

They have zero legislative or enforcement powers. They are simply an advisory body.

Custardpi

ButtersSuki wrote: »

They have zero legislative or enforcement powers. They are simply an advisory body.

Yeah, that's what I thought. So the chances of HMV paying them any heed probably aren't the best, eh?

Grayson

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Whilst HMV and their security staff were not willing to pursue a grandad, I doubt they will apply that level of leniency to anyone else who tries this.

I notice grandad didn't hand over the voucher or pay the surplus - this is plainly and simply theft. A fine example to set for your grandkids.

Before I get shouted down from on high, I'm not excusing HMV for not honouring the gift tokens, but this is not the way to tackle this!

Bet he was the kind of git that gives ordinary staff members abuse about things they have no control over.

Plazaman

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Whilst HMV and theior security staff were not willing to pursue a grandad, I doubt they will apply that level of leniency to anyone else who tries this.

I notice grandad didn't hand over the voucher or pay the surplus - this is plainly and simply theft. A fine example to set for your grandkids.

Before I get shouted down from on high, I'm not excusing HMV for not honouring the gift tokens, but this is not the way to tackle this!

This is exactly what I said in the Indos comment section, that the man is basically a thief and got called pedantic for my troubles (my second post in reply to that failed to make it past the moderators). Yes fúck off HMV for selling vouchers before Christmas with no intention of honouring them but walking into a shop, talking three or four items and walking out saying I'll post the money to ye is theivery. The staff said they wouldn't accept vouchers but if he said "Tough, here they are anyway with the balance of the money, what you do with them is your business", then at least he made a genuine effort to make a transaction.

blackwhite

Boombastic wrote: »

Grandad walks out of HMV with computer games after staff refuse to accept gift voucher

Fair play to this guy

Fair play to him? The man's an idiot.

Step 1 - Commit theft from a retail store.
Step 2 - Confess to crime in national newspaper and pose for photographs with stolen goods.
Step 3 - ??????

Rabidlamb

efb wrote: »

He stole those items, he didnt pay for them.

No, I believe he was perfectly within his rights.
Pedantic shematics is thrumped by a good dollop of common sense.

Rabidlamb

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Whilst HMV and their security staff were not willing to pursue a grandad, I doubt they will apply that level of leniency to anyone else who tries this.

I notice grandad didn't hand over the voucher or pay the surplus - this is plainly and simply theft. A fine example to set for your grandkids.

Before I get shouted down from on high, I'm not excusing HMV for not honouring the gift tokens, but this is not the way to tackle this!

I have a read of your post & consider it to be bollix of the highest order.
Good day.

Gummy Panda

Rabidlamb wrote: »

No, I believe he was perfectly within his rights.
Pedantic shematics is thrumped by a good dollop of common sense.

No he isn't.

the groutch

leader's questions in the Dail shortly, hopefully someone will raise the issue.

Tazz T

The man paid for the goods in advance. The company are trying to steal his money without giving him the goods.

The company is wrong. How can you steal something you've paid for?

Boombastic

blackwhite wrote: »

Fair play to him? The man's an idiot.

Step 1 - Commit theft from a retail store.
Step 2 - Confess to crime in national newspaper and pose for photographs with stolen goods.
Step 3 - ??????

Step 3 post the vouchers and balance to HMV as stated

Rabidlamb

Gummy Panda wrote: »

No he isn't.

Oh yes he is . . . .

Gummy Panda

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Oh yes he is . . . .

You believe what you want.

Biggins

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I have a read of your post & consider it to be bollix of the highest order.
Good day.

LOL

Fair play - at least you wished him "Good day".

Rabidlamb

Gummy Panda wrote: »

You believe what you want.

You believe what you're told

Theta

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You believe what you're told

I can understand you thining that if he left the vouchers in the shop with the 6 euro but he took them with him. He took the games and the vouchers. How is that different then someone with money in their wallet walking out with the items?

Rabidlamb

Biggins wrote: »

LOL

Fair play - at least you wished him "Good day".

Attacking the post but never the poster.
We have rules god damn it.

Penn

Man, I wish the games he stole were ones where they keep the discs in a draw behind the counter. That would have been f*cking brilliant

Gummy Panda

Biggins wrote: »

LOL

Fair play - at least you wished him "Good day".

Oh the rabble rousing has arrived. I wonder how long before this gets blamed on FG and Labour

knucklehead6

granddad is still a thieving git.

your post is wrong.

Rabidlamb

Theta wrote: »

I can understand you thining that if he left the vouchers in the shop with the 6 euro but he took them with him. He took the games and the vouchers. How is that different then someone with money in their wallet walking out with the items?

Heat of the moment, red mist descended, not thinking straight.
I'll give him a pass on the voucher thing owing to the stress the staff put him under.
Plus he gave an interview, heart was in the right place I think.

Basq

Just saw there that Grafton Street closed this morning..

.. and "will remain closed until an examiner is appointed" according to a source.

Theta

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Heat of the moment, red mist descended, not thinking straight.
I'll give him a pass on the voucher thing owing to the stress the staff put him under.
Plus he gave an interview, heart was in the right place I think.

Did he commit a crime? yes or no? regardless of if his heart is in the right place.

Did he take items from a shop without payment?

Boombastic

What legal right do HMV have for refusing to honor their vouchers in Ireland? They are breaking their own terms and conditions by not giving notice that the vouchers would cease to be honored. They are not in administration or examinership in ROI

ButtersSuki

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I have a read of your post & consider it to be bollix of the highest order.
Good day.

Wow. Intelligent debating of the facts there.

SilverScreen

blackwhite wrote: »

Fair play to him? The man's an idiot.

Step 1 - Commit theft from a retail store.
Step 2 - Confess to crime in national newspaper and pose for photographs with stolen goods.
Step 3 - ??????

Step 4 - Profit