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Septic tank charges

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  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Backfire wrote: »
    This thread has suddenly turned hilarious!
    Yeah, pollution is the funniest thing evar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Backfire wrote: »
    Well hold on a minute there...its not completely free, i still have to buy the matches ro start the fire!.....haha :)

    This thread has suddenly turned hilarious!

    Jese sorry guys, hope you dont choke on the carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide molecules as they disperse in the atmosphere.

    Do you have any clue? Or do you think releasing hydrogen cyanide or arsenic into the atmosphere is funny?

    How clueless do you have to be to realise it is illegal for a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    MadsL wrote: »

    Do you have any clue? Or do you think releasing hydrogen cyanide or arsenic into the atmosphere is funny?

    How clueless do you have to be to realise it is illegal for a reason.

    Like you said i dont care.
    Why are you so surprised when apparently you can identify the type of person i am?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Backfire wrote: »
    Like you said i dont care.
    Why are you so surprised when apparently you can identify the type of person i am?

    Then why are you asking for advice here? Or were you just looking for some validation for about how clever you were? Sorry, that you got told some hard truths instead.

    Just go ahead and install your magic T switch, if an inspector came up with it, then an inspector will know how to find it - good luck with that!

    By the way, how much does your magic T junction cost to install? I thought you were broke? I find it ironic that you would install something that contravenes the regulations and attracts a potential Class A fine and a criminal record when for probably the same money you could do it right, but you keep fighting the war for the "little people" against "da man". That makes sense alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    MadsL wrote: »

    Then why are you asking for advice here? Or were you just looking for some validation for about how clever you were? Sorry, that you got told some hard truths instead.

    Just go ahead and install your magic T switch, if an inspector came up with it, then an inspector will know how to find it - good luck with that!

    By the way, how much does your magic T junction cost to install? I thought you were broke? I find it ironic that you would install something that contravenes the regulations and attracts a potential Class A fine and a criminal record when for probably the same money you could do it right, but you keep fighting the war for the "little people" against "da man". That makes sense alright.

    Got told some hard truths? Man i have to laugh. I dont care and no your suggestions would not have been cheaper for me. The only thing i had to purchase was a spacer to bring the manhole up closer to the surface, cost €25. The remaining parts including the t junction itself and a short 4" pipe didnt cost me anything as i received them several years ago from a relative for a completely different reason.

    If the inspector found the junction i just say it was a job i did a couple of years ago. I wouldnt get fined but i would have to change the setup then yes. The fine is applied if you fail to carry out the maintenance work outlined by the inspector.

    And i do these things to save money. There is no other reason.


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  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Backfire wrote: »
    And i do these things to save money. There is no other reason.
    That's why I dump rubbish in ditches, shoplift food and steal other people's petrol. It's not because I'm a bad person; it's just because I don't care what consequences my actions have for other people. As long as I'm saving money, why should I care about anyone else?



    It must make life awfully straightforward, not giving a flying **** about anything or anyone other than yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭View


    Backfire, you do realise that the government's response to the grey water "trick" will be to introduce regulation requiring seperate grey water system installation, licensing and inspection?

    The government's obligation is to meet the environmental standards and sceptic tank inspection on its own is not going to let them off that hook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    That's why I dump rubbish in ditches, shoplift food and steal other people's petrol. It's not because I'm a bad person; it's just because I don't care what consequences my actions have for other people. As long as I'm saving money, why should I care about anyone else?



    It must make life awfully straightforward, not giving a flying **** about anything or anyone other than yourself.

    Yes because what i am doing is as serious as shoplifting and stealing petrol.....

    I like how you seem to think the reason why i do what i do is because i know it will have negative effects on people and i am doing it with a Dr. Evil laugh.

    Gray water entering the septic tank is suffice as long as the tank has an independent soak away.

    EDIT: sorry misread your post, yes you are right, i dont care and yes my life is much more straightforward. Im such a criminal.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Backfire wrote: »
    Yes because what i am doing is as serious as shoplifting and stealing petrol.....
    Shoplifting and stealing petrol are less serious than rape and murder. Therefore they are acceptable.
    ...yes you are right, i dont care and yes my life is much more straightforward.
    I guess your straightforward life is more important than my clean environment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Shoplifting and stealing petrol are less serious than rape and murder. Therefore they are acceptable. I guess your straightforward life is more important than my clean environment.

    Yes of course my intended sarcastic response was aimed at making that point......

    So I assume there isn't a single law that you break? Ever?

    If your answer is No, then fair play to you, you are a better man than I am.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,542 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Theres not a single law I break that involves me dumping my waste into other peoples water or burning my rubbish in the most enviormentally polluting way possible that maximises the damage to air quality, what an ignorant little thug you are that not only do you do these things but you come on here to boast about them in public and encourage others to do the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Backfire wrote: »
    you are a better man than I am.

    Phew!..... thank god that's sorted out so.

    The thread was starting to go off course!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire



    Phew!..... thank god that's sorted out so.

    The thread was starting to go off course!

    Haha, and it was starting to annoy a few people too :)

    If they came around to my area and expressed their opinions to many of my neighbors, they'd chase them out of their place with a pike (redneck-style) :)

    I'll continue to do what i do and if that annoys people then all i can say is calm down and be grateful that you yourself dont do what i do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,542 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    What do you think of the fact that the more plastic and other rubbish that is burned in an area the higher the death rate from cancer and other respiratory diseases in that region?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Backfire wrote: »
    Actually i burn all my rubbish in the old fireplace of an old stone building. (Nobody from a helicopter is none the wiser).
    And i recycle all recycable materials. Havnt spent money on getting rid of my rubbish in a long time. :)

    I know this annoys you but i do what i have to do to make life cheaper on myself. You can voice your opinions (and please do) but it wont change my mind.
    You do know, that your posting history makes you very identifiable, and that it would be relatively easy for the Gardai to figure out who you are, if they searched back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Backfire, you might want to rethink admitting criminal acts on boards.ie - were I vindictive soul, based on what you have already posted on boards and some internet digging and phone calls, I could very easily identify you and report you. That might have some very serious consequences for your job and hobbies.


    Now that is not a threat, just pointing out that you are not as smart as you think you are and generally is it not a great idea to admit to criminal acts on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    MadsL wrote: »
    Backfire, you might want to rethink admitting criminal acts on boards.ie - were I vindictive soul, based on what you have already posted on boards and some internet digging and phone calls, I could very easily identify you and report you. That might have some very serious consequences for your job and hobbies.


    Now that is not a threat, just pointing out that you are not as smart as you think you are and generally is it not a great idea to admit to criminal acts on boards.

    Yes i suppose you are correct about that.

    Even people have been prosecuted by making comments on twitter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    The teaching profession has really gone to the dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Backfire wrote: »
    Actually i burn all my rubbish in the old fireplace of an old stone building. (Nobody from a helicopter is none the wiser).
    And i recycle all recycable materials. Havnt spent money on getting rid of my rubbish in a long time. :)

    I know this annoys you but i do what i have to do to make life cheaper on myself. You can voice your opinions (and please do) but it wont change my mind.
    You do know, that your posting history makes you very identifiable, and that it would be relatively easy for the Gardai to figure out who you are, if they searched back?

    Strictly speaking what you are doing is not illegal backfire. There is no law (at present as far as I am aware) preventing anyone from burning rubbish in a fire place. There are laws from buring rubbish in public.

    Also I would believe that the Guards have more pressing issue than following what posters say on boards and following up same by investigating possible breaches of the lay when all the invidual may be doing is trolling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Strictly speaking what you are doing is not illegal backfire. There is no law (at present as far as I am aware) preventing anyone from burning rubbish in a fire place. There are laws from buring rubbish in public.

    WASTE MANAGEMENT (PROHIBITION OF WASTE DISPOSAL BY
    BURNING) REGULATIONS 2009
    (3) Household waste shall not be disposed of by burning either within a building,
    the curtilage of a building, any self contained part of a building used for the
    purposes of living accommodation or its curtilage other than in accordance
    with—
    (a) Regulation 6(2) of the Facility Permit Regulations, and
    (b) any Regulations which may be made under Section 53 of the Act
    of 1987.
    http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/esi/2009/B27021.pdf

    Also I would believe that the Guards have more pressing issue than following what posters say on boards and following up same by investigating possible breaches of the lay when all the invidual may be doing is trolling.

    No. But that is exactly what the local environmental enforcement officer may do.

    Also, lets just say (hypothetically of course) that a school principal may take a dim view of a hypothetical newly qualified science teacher advocating polluting the environment on a public internet forum. Hypothetically of course. Best not get into admissions of criminal damage in that persons history either.

    I think they call that a CLM = Career Limiting Move.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    MadsL wrote: »
    WASTE MANAGEMENT (PROHIBITION OF WASTE DISPOSAL BY
    BURNING) REGULATIONS 2009


    http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/esi/2009/B27021.pdf




    No. But that is exactly what the local environmental enforcement officer may do.

    Also, lets just say (hypothetically of course) that a school principal may take a dim view of a hypothetical newly qualified science teacher advocating polluting the environment on a public internet forum. Hypothetically of course. Best not get into admissions of criminal damage in that persons history either.

    I think they call that a CLM = Career Limiting Move.

    One mans waste is another mans fuel last tuesday night was cold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    One mans waste is another mans fuel last tuesday night was cold

    Spare me the 19th Century nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,188 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I didn't think the council inspector would have the right to come on my property when I am not there but I was talking to the guy next door this evening and he says they can.

    I wonder when they will be starting the inspections.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭OssianSmyth


    I didn't think the council inspector would have the right to come on my property when I am not there but I was talking to the guy next door this evening and he says they can.
    The have the power to "enter and inspect any premises connected to a domestic waste water treatment system" under section 4 of the Water Services Amendment Act 2012
    However, they have to give you written notice 10 working days before the inspection.
    I wonder when they will be starting the inspections.
    Good question. The EPA is legally responsible for devising this plan. They had a consultation last year but have not produced a plan yet. The draft is here: http://epa.ie/downloads/consultation/name,33919,en.html

    They say they will prioritise inspection of unregistered facilities. The registration deadline is 1 Feb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,990 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    MadsL wrote: »
    Backfire, you might want to rethink admitting criminal acts on boards.ie - were I vindictive soul, based on what you have already posted on boards and some internet digging and phone calls, I could very easily identify you and report you. That might have some very serious consequences for your job and hobbies.


    Now that is not a threat, just pointing out that you are not as smart as you think you are and generally is it not a great idea to admit to criminal acts on boards.
    A bit of perspective. Someone posting on a forum saying they've done something is no proof they actually have.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    n97 mini wrote: »
    A bit of perspective. Someone posting on a forum saying they've done something is no proof they actually have.
    Nope, but it might constitute grounds to investigate possible criminal behaviour and find actual evidence of wrongdoing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,765 ✭✭✭flutered


    MadsL wrote: »
    Sell your house, if you can't afford to maintain it, you can't afford to live in it.
    who are buying houses at the moment, if it sells where will one go, the streets perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,765 ✭✭✭flutered


    MadsL wrote: »
    Backfire, you might want to rethink admitting criminal acts on boards.ie - were I vindictive soul, based on what you have already posted on boards and some internet digging and phone calls, I could very easily identify you and report you. That might have some very serious consequences for your job and hobbies.


    Now that is not a threat, just pointing out that you are not as smart as you think you are and generally is it not a great idea to admit to criminal acts on boards.

    if he is using tor browser or similar then anyone has not a hope in hell of idintifying him , not all peeps taking on da man are either utterly stupid or foolish in every way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,765 ✭✭✭flutered


    MadsL wrote: »
    WASTE MANAGEMENT (PROHIBITION OF WASTE DISPOSAL BY
    BURNING) REGULATIONS 2009


    http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/esi/2009/B27021.pd


    did he not say the fireplace was in an old building.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    flutered wrote: »
    who are buying houses at the moment, if it sells where will one go, the streets perhaps.

    Overdramatise much?
    flutered wrote: »
    if he is using tor browser or similar then anyone has not a hope in hell of idintifying him , not all peeps taking on da man are either utterly stupid or foolish in every way.

    He has posted enough personal information on boards to narrow it down pretty closely. I'm not going to post details - search his posts yourself if you like.
    flutered wrote: »
    MadsL wrote: »
    WASTE MANAGEMENT (PROHIBITION OF WASTE DISPOSAL BY
    BURNING) REGULATIONS 2009


    http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/esi/2009/B27021.pd


    did he not say the fireplace was in an old building.

    Show me where the regualtions give a flying flutered about the age of the building?


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