Current wisdom on sum of money found

seamus · 03-01-2013 05:04PM

The actual law is a year and a day.

That is, just because you find something, doesn't make it yours. You need to make a reasonable effort to try and establish who owns it, and if it's not claimed in a year and a day, it's yours.

If it was less than €100 and there doesn't seem to be any simple way of figuring out who lost it, I'd pocket it. Any more than that and in the interests of not being an asshole, I'd be inclined to report it to the nearest Garda station.

Rabidlamb · 03-01-2013 05:04PM

girl2 wrote: »

I'm glad your conscience is clear. Now - the next time you lose a wad of money…remember keepin this money. You have no idea how much someone may have been relying on that money and the difficulty they might have around having lost it.

Just think about it again. And if you still have a clear conscience, then do your own do.

And we wonder why we're living in a world as it is :rolleyes:

(For good measure - "be the change you wish to see in the world")

You sound like you're full of jesus, go away.

girl2 · 03-01-2013 05:09PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You sound like you're full of jesus, go away.

I am just as entitled to an opinion as the next man…and what I have said has obviously stuck a chord with you.

Remember - you will lose money (probably at a time when you do need it) and you will remember that you were not very kind in this instance. And I don't mean keeping the money - I just mean, you're not even making a effort here to justify any reason for keeping it.

(And just cos I've already quote one very good man, I'll quote another "no good deed goes unpunished").

And for the record - I'm not religious in any way whatsoever, just trying to let you see the difference in being "that person" and not being "that person".

cantdecide · 03-01-2013 05:12PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Or the shop assistant tells their mate to ring the Guards and say they lost x amount of money, did anyone hand it in? Then they go drinking and generally making merry like the OP should have in the first case!

That's a whole trail of false representations to the establishment. That's far more risk than most people would take, I dare say. What happens when Mrs Murphy goes to the guards claiming the same thing. Plus, you don't give it to the checkout girl, you give it to a manager. Nothing's fool-proof. It's just a reasonable step.

Rabidlamb · 03-01-2013 05:16PM

girl2 wrote: »

I am just as entitled to an opinion as the next man…and what I have said has obviously stuck a chord with you.

Remember - you will lose money (probably at a time when you do need it) and you will remember that you were not very kind in this instance. And I don't mean keeping the money - I just mean, you're not even making a effort here to justify any reason for keeping it.

(And just cos I've already quote one very good man, I'll quote another "no good deed goes unpunished").

And for the record - I'm not religious in any way whatsoever, just trying to let you see the difference in being "that person" and not being "that person".

Sound, I follow you but there's times the karma wheel doesn't go full circle.
I've lost money & phones before, never saw them again.

Anyway, the forum came to a consensus which I agreed with.

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 05:18PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback.

I went with the majority of the forum's advice & kept it.
I've already lodged it against my Christmas Credit Card bill.

It was nearly €300 but I couldn't put up with the hassle of advertising the find then having to listen to gougers for the next week.

My conscience is at ease as I know now it's what the majority of the forum would have done.

Thanks

Seriously?

Your conscience is clear because if this thread?

uch · 03-01-2013 05:18PM

girl2 wrote: »

(And just cos I've already quote one very good man, I'll quote another "no good deed goes unpunished").

And for the record - I'm not religious in any way whatsoever, just trying to let you see the difference in being "that person" and not being "that person".

Me hole does it not, I returned a lost wallet in Schiphol Airport, Amsterdam years ago, the miserable Fuker gave me nothing, not even the price of a cup of tea, despite the fact that I was (very obviously) Homeless at the time.

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 05:20PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Sound, I follow you but there's times the karma wheel doesn't go full circle.
I've lost money & phones before, never saw them again.

Anyway, the forum came to a consensus which I agreed with.

It didn't really though!

Panrich · 03-01-2013 05:23PM

I found a purse outside Liffey Valley a couple of weeks before Christmas. It was at the trolley bay of M&S. Handed it in to the manager but was a little uncomfortable as they never took any details or anything, just thank you, we'll look after that.

Motopepe · 03-01-2013 05:29PM

If you found an arguably significant sum of money lying on the ground, would you....
a. endeavour to return it to the party that lost it.
b. take the sum of money as your own.
c. base the decision on considering 25 comments, over a 3 hr. period, in an online forum.

Happyman42 · 03-01-2013 05:31PM

girl2 wrote: »

I am just as entitled to an opinion as the next man…and what I have said has obviously stuck a chord with you.

Remember - you will lose money (probably at a time when you do need it) and you will remember that you were not very kind in this instance. And I don't mean keeping the money - I just mean, you're not even making a effort here to justify any reason for keeping it.

(And just cos I've already quote one very good man, I'll quote another "no good deed goes unpunished").

And for the record - I'm not religious in any way whatsoever, just trying to let you see the difference in being "that person" and not being "that person".

^^ Well said, can't believe somebody would just pocket that amount of money in such a callous, unfeeling way and be so roundly supported for doing it. 300 euros is a lot of money to most people. It's not 'cool' to point out the sadness of it, but well done for being brave enough.

Panrich · 03-01-2013 05:31PM

Motopepe wrote: »

If you found an arguably significant sum of money lying on the ground, would you....
a. endeavour to return it to the party that lost it.
b. take the sum of money as your own.
c. base the decision on considering 25 comments, over a 3 hr. period, in an online forum.

You're right. We really need a poll for this. C

Real Life · 03-01-2013 05:33PM

its funny how so many people were saying to keep it until the OP said he was keeping it then the people pop up complaining.
OP did the right thing imo, i would have done the same. the only way id be giving it back was if i saw someone drop it.

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 05:36PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

^^ Well said, can't believe somebody would just pocket that amount of money in such a callous, unfeeling way and be so roundly supported for doing it. 300 euros is a lot of money to most people. It's not 'cool' to point out the sadness of it, but well done for being brave enough.

Agreed. I can't believe that so many people have horribly reccomended the OP keep it with no attempt at all to return it.

Frankly that's a shameful thing to do.

delta36 · 03-01-2013 05:37PM

Where did you find it? Roughly €300? That sounds like it could have been someones rent for the month.

Happyman42 · 03-01-2013 05:38PM

Real Life wrote: »

its funny how so many people were saying to keep it until the OP said he was keeping it then the people pop up complaining.
OP did the right thing imo, i would have done the same. the only way id be giving it back was if i saw someone drop it.

Taking money that doesn't belong to you is wrong, walk past it if you can't be arsed finding the rightful owner. Give the loser (in this case. victim) a fair chance of finding somebody decent < old fashioned word that, but I like it)

Valetta · 03-01-2013 05:38PM

So- sequence of events as I see it:

OP spends money for Cristmas on his credit card that he probably couldn't afford.

Finds nearly €300 belonging to someone else.

Won't do what he is legally obliged to do as he thinks the guards will keep it themselves.

Asks a bunch of anonymous posters for advice.

Proceeds to do exactly what he was afraid the guards would do.

Justifies this by claiming a non existent consensus on this forum.

Mind boggles.

Hamiltonion · 03-01-2013 05:39PM

At some point we all lose a ph / money or have it robbed. As I posted previously I've returned 3 iPhones last year and would do it again as I can prove who owns it by contacting their home number.

I had my iPhone nicked in NYC last Sept so the whole karma thing didn't really work out did it?

Unidentified cash is yours to keep, consider it cosmic payback for the **** you've lost before and will lose in future :cool:

Rabidlamb · 03-01-2013 05:43PM

delta36 wrote: »

Where did you find it? Roughly €300? That sounds like it could have been someones rent for the month.

Or maybe proceeds from dealing drugs, seriously, could be anything.

Happyman42 · 03-01-2013 05:44PM

Hamiltonion wrote: »

At some point we all lose a ph / money or have it robbed. As I posted previously I've returned 3 iPhones last year and would do it again as I can prove who owns it by contacting their home number.

I had my iPhone nicked in NYC last Sept so the whole karma thing didn't really work out did it?

Unidentified cash is yours to keep, consider it cosmic payback for the **** you've lost before and will lose in future :cool:

Maybe someone by some karma decided not to rob your house or your sister, or mum because you had those returned iPhone credits?? Bull**** argument to cover doing something inherently wrong imo.

Hamiltonion · 03-01-2013 05:48PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Maybe someone by some karma decided not to rob your house or your sister, or mum because you had those returned iPhone credits?? Bull**** argument to cover doing something inherently wrong imo.

Lads, there's being decent and doing the right thing when you can, and there's being sanctimonious when someone gets lucky.

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 05:50PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Or maybe proceeds from dealing drugs, seriously, could be anything.

It's still wrong and still unjustifiable and still not legal

Rabidlamb · 03-01-2013 05:51PM

Well if the newly vocal moral majority had spoken up earlier in the thread this money may have been back with the rightful owner.
Instead you lay silent as pragmatic greed spread it's virtues.

Consider yourself as much to blame here as I am.

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 05:51PM

Hamiltonion wrote: »

Lads, there's being decent and doing the right thing when you can, and there's being sanctimonious when someone gets lucky.

No sanctimony or luck here

Madam_X · 03-01-2013 05:51PM

300 euro is a lot of money, could be somebody's wages - effort should be made to find out who it belongs to, no question about it.
OP probably on a wind-up though - he does that.

Annasopra · 03-01-2013 05:52PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Well if the newly vocal moral majority had spoken up earlier in the thread this money may have been back with the rightful owner.
Instead you lay silent as pragmatic greed spread it's virtues.

Consider yourself as much to blame here as I am.

Nope

Blame lies squarely with you!

Rabidlamb · 03-01-2013 05:54PM

Madam_X wrote: »

300 euro is a lot of money, could be somebody's wages - effort should be made to find out who it belongs too, no question about it.
OP probably on a wind-up though - he does that.

I have previous granted but not in this case.
Either way it's a mute point as the money is already lodged.

Happyman42 · 03-01-2013 05:54PM

Hamiltonion wrote: »

Lads, there's being decent and doing the right thing when you can, and there's being sanctimonious when someone gets lucky.

I'd rather risk being labelled sanctimonious any day of the week so than being labelled a thief, which is what this person is if they did as they say they did. It's really very simple, somebody is down 300 euro, we know not who or in what circumstances.

Motopepe · 03-01-2013 05:56PM

I read this thread for the humour really but the facts here are also intriguing...
see, the way I read it, the first 25 posts were discernably 8 people recommending trying to find the owner and 8 people recommending keeping it. There were 5 posts that offered only humour and the rest were non specific ,
However, this post

frozenfrozen wrote: »

if its LOADS of money keep it, if its not a lot of money, keep it, if it looks like a weeks wages, maybe try find the owner

comes down in favour of trying to find the owner in my opinion.

hawkelady · 03-01-2013 05:56PM

mango salsa wrote: »

It's still wrong and still unjustifiable and still not legal

Are you really committing a crime when you find money on the street and pocket it ??
Are you telling me I should run to the local cop shop next time I find €1 ??

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