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Filthy atheists stealing our Christmas

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Do you get off on sarcasm
    I wasn't (there was no :rolleyes: anyway)

    I genuinely believe that was a beautiful way of looking at death, circle of life and all that.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Izabella Disgusting Principal


    i didn't think he was being sarcastic, feeding the flowers sounds nice :(


    but now (omg sarcasm) i suppose flowers aren't to be thought of as wonderful unless they're being used as an "aren't flowers pretty? therefore god exists" argument


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Do you decorate a tree; buy gifts for your kids; have a traditional meal at Christmas? If not don't you think it's unfair your kids are missinh out because of your views?
    Right. Nobody really anwsered and regardless whether you are vegan or haven't got kids I was speaking hypothetically. Im agnostic by the way but I enjoy the holiday. Having one day off a year like xmas is nice and very warm. Why abolish it? What would you replace it with?

    You didn't actually read any of the thread before posting did you?

    Why would you do that man? For the love of God why!? WHY!? It stars Bruce Willis, so ye know it's gonna be good.

    Read the thread Sandy... read the thread.

    (Maybe you confused this thread with the one over in the Christianity forum containing Christians saying they don't decorate tress or buy gifts? Easy mistake to make, easily done. But I have to warn you, their thread does not star Bruce Willis. There could be one of the Baldwin brothers in there somewhere maybe, I haven't really checked yet, but even if there is, no Baldwin brother ever abseiled down Nakatomi Plaza with a fire hose... That we can all agree on...)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Phew - strobe's here. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    A little later than last year, and please forgive the resurrection of an oldie, but I think it is a useful one to have around for the season that's in it.

    MrP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Ah it's that time of year already? Best get planning the 12 pubs route so and prepare my poor liver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    God damn atheists showing no respect for other people's belief. What does it matter to you if people believe in Christmas? Jesus Christ was a great guy, he's the heart and soul of Christmas and if you guys celebrate Christmas then you guys are, like it or not, celebrating the birth of Jesus. I think that's fair too because otherwise if you don't believe in Jesus then you're not entitled to celebrate Christmas. Make up your own silly non belief festival.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Izabella Disgusting Principal


    Well if you don't believe in religion I bet you NEVER WANT ANY TIME OFF!
    ha! see! I win! You're all secretly religious!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Well said Mr Blue. Deep down everyone believes, its just they're egos closes they're heart off to God. But He will always remains to open to them. I shall pray for those lost souls at Christmas.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Izabella Disgusting Principal


    I am glad I found god because if I did not have god I would be off killing everyone I didn't like and breaking the law and that's why I have morals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Personally I don't believe in god so I can can get on with my rapin' and killin'. It has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't make any sense. Besides, everyone knows whether or not you believe in something is a conscious decision that you make and has nothing to do with evidence.

    I plan to spend my Christmas same as usual. Hypocritically buying thoughtful gifts for my family and friends, feeding 15 people on Christmas day, watching the Great Escape and Die Hard and generally enjoying not being at work. Oh, and rapin' and killin'... obviously.

    MrP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭General Relativity


    The only evidence I need of Jesus is the love in my heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Christmas to me is about time off work, family being home, the one time of the year I relax my diet/exercise and let myself go, catching up on friends I don't see often, a few parties, treating myself to something nice, a few lie ins, having a laugh.

    I don't believe in God so I don't go in for the religious side of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,876 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I was just reading my recipe book there and there were some great tips to prevent a dry baby.

    Apparently, one makes a small incision along the spine,
    inserts ones fingers,
    then using ones finger one carefully separates the skin from the flesh underneath.
    Next, get some butter and seasoning and spread it around between the flesh and skin.
    Then, pack the abdominal cavity with some crushed garlic cloves and several whole onions befpre covering in tin foil and placing in the oven.
    Btw, don't throw out the baby giblets, they make a lovely gravy!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    With enough left over for a nice baby curry on the 26th?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Christmas to me is about time off work, family being home, the one time of the year I relax my diet/exercise and let myself go, catching up on friends I don't see often, a few parties, treating myself to something nice, a few lie ins, having a laugh.

    I don't believe in God so I don't go in for the religious side of things.

    A Catholic so, is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ...they're stealing it earlier every year.

    I often blame the 'magic' not being there at Christmas anymore on age, but its also occurred to me that as I got older, I drank less and less....


    The only evidence I need of Jesus is the love in my heart.

    .......lovely. Well you've certainly swayed me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,179 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    DEY DURK URR JERBS CHRISTMAS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,480 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The only evidence I need of Jesus is the love in my heart.

    The only evidence I need of Dracula is the blood in my heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Penn wrote: »
    The only evidence I need of Dracula is the blood in my heart blood pumping organ.
    FYP to remove any possible confusion that you were referring to the mystical organ in a similar position to your blood pumping organ which can apparent see, feel and needs to be opened for us to live correctly.:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,480 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    MrPudding wrote: »
    FYP to remove any possible confusion that you were referring to the mystical organ in a similar position to your blood pumping organ which can apparent see, feel and needs to be opened for us to live correctly.:eek:

    That's not my only blood pumping organ

    29110649.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    MrPudding wrote: »
    FYP to remove any possible confusion that you were referring to the mystical organ in a similar position to your blood pumping organ which can apparent see, feel and needs to be opened for us to live correctly.:eek:

    I really don't think I'd be living for very long if my heart was opened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭[-0-]


    Calibos wrote: »
    I was just reading my recipe book there and there were some great tips to prevent a dry baby.

    Apparently, one makes a small incision along the spine,
    inserts ones fingers,
    then using ones finger one carefully separates the skin from the flesh underneath.
    Next, get some butter and seasoning and spread it around between the flesh and skin.
    Then, pack the abdominal cavity with some crushed garlic cloves and several whole onions befpre covering in tin foil and placing in the oven.
    Btw, don't throw out the baby giblets, they make a lovely gravy!!

    Post of the Year! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    The Indo had it's first 'true meaning of Christmas' letter of the year yesterday:
    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/sign-of-the-times-3300417.html

    Decadence for all!!!! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Skrynesaver


    First Athiests are cancelling Christmas (in defference to Muslims obviously) story of the year has been debunked by the Times
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/1117/1224326703737.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭swampgas


    This escalated rather dramatically: Atheists move halts Christmas tradition in Santa Monica
    Damon Vix didn't have to go to court to push Christmas out of the city of Santa Monica. He just joined the festivities. The atheist's anti-God message alongside a life-sized nativity display in a park overlooking the beach ignited a debate that burned brighter than any Christmas candle.

    Santa Monica officials snuffed the city's holiday tradition this year rather than referee the religious rumble, prompting churches that have set up a 14-scene Christian diorama for decades to sue over freedom of speech violations. Their attorney will ask a federal judge Monday to resurrect the depiction of Jesus' birth, while the city aims to eject the case.

    "It's a sad, sad commentary on the attitudes of the day that a nearly 60-year-old Christmas tradition is now having to hunt for a home, something like our savior had to hunt for a place to be born because the world was not interested," said Hunter Jameson, head of the nonprofit Santa Monica Nativity Scene Committee that is suing.

    Missing from the courtroom drama will be Vix and his fellow atheists, who are not parties to the case. Their role outside court highlights a tactical shift as atheists evolve into a vocal minority eager to get their non-beliefs into the public square as never before.

    National atheist groups earlier this year took out full-page newspaper ads and hundreds of TV spots in response to the Catholic bishops' activism around women's health care issues and are gearing up to battle for their own space alongside public Christmas displays in small towns across America this season.

    "In recent years, the tactic of many in the atheist community has been, if you can't beat them, join them," said Charles Haynes, a senior scholar at the First Amendment Center and director of the Newseum's Religious Freedom Education Project in Washington. "If these church groups insist that these public spaces are going to be dominated by a Christian message, we'll just get in the game — and that changes everything."

    In the past, atheists primarily fought to uphold the separation of church and state through the courts. The change underscores the conviction held by many nonbelievers that their views are gaining a foothold, especially among young adults.

    The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life released a study last month that found 20 percent of Americans say they have no religious affiliation, an increase from 15 percent in the last five years. Atheists took heart from the report, although Pew researchers stressed that the category also encompassed majorities of people who said they believed in God but had no ties with organized religion and people who consider themselves "spiritual" but not "religious."

    "We're at the bottom of the totem pole socially, but we have muscle and we're flexing it," said Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the Wisconsin-based Freedom from Religion Foundation. "Ignore our numbers at your peril."

    The trouble in Santa Monica began three years ago, when Vix applied for and was granted a booth in Palisades Park alongside the story of Jesus Christ's birth, from Mary's visit from the Angel Gabriel to the traditional crèche.

    Vix hung a simple sign that quoted Thomas Jefferson: "Religions are all alike -- founded on fables and mythologies." The other side read "Happy Solstice." He repeated the display the following year but then upped the stakes significantly.

    In 2011, Vix recruited 10 others to inundate the city with applications for tongue-in-cheek displays such as an homage to the "Pastafarian religion," which would include an artistic representation of the great Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    The secular coalition won 18 of 21 spaces. The two others went to the traditional Christmas displays and one to a Hanukkah display.
    The atheists used half their spaces, displaying signs such as one that showed pictures of Poseidon, Jesus, Santa Claus and the devil and said: "37 million Americans know myths when they see them. What myths do you see?"

    Most of the signs were vandalized and in the ensuing uproar, the city effectively ended a tradition that began in 1953 and earned Santa Monica one of its nicknames, the City of the Christmas Story.
    The Santa Monica Nativity Scenes Committee argues in its lawsuit that atheists have the right to protest, but that freedom doesn't trump the Christians' right to free speech.

    "If they want to hold an opposing viewpoint about the celebration of Christmas, they're free to do that — but they can't interfere with our right to engage in religious speech in a traditional public forum," said William Becker, attorney for the committee. "Our goal is to preserve the tradition in Santa Monica and to keep Christmas alive."

    The city doesn't prohibit churches from caroling in the park, handing out literature or even staging a play about the birth of Jesus and churches can always set up a nativity on private land, Deputy City Attorney Jeanette Schachtner said in an email.

    The decision to ban the displays also saves the city, which had administered the cumbersome lottery process used to award booths, both time and money while preserving the park's aesthetics, she said.
    For his part, Vix is surprised — and slightly amused — at the legal battle spawned by his solitary act but doesn't plan anything further.

    "That was such a unique and blatant example of the violation of the First Amendment that I felt I had to act," said the 44-year-old set builder. "If I had another goal, it would be to remove the 'under God' phrase from the Pledge of Allegiance — but that's a little too big for me to take on for right now."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    ^ Faux News, so chances are it's not true. (or was that the joke and I didn't get it?)

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    ^^ It's all a bit mad isn't it Ted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    You God Damn heathens are trying to bring free abortions on demand into Ireland before Christmas! Have you any respect for the rights of others?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Christmas is gay.. least so goes the rumour.


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