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The movies of Arnold Schwarzenegger

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    One thing i haven't mentioned though, which is ridiculous of the first movie. Kyle is sent back, father's John, then dies. Which should wipe him out of the future. If he doesn't exist in the future, how was he sent back to Sarah to father John at all? So in fairness, the first 2 movies are completely dumb when thought about. So the hate for 3 is uncalled for. None of them make any bit of sense, so take 'em for what they're worth, the action, 1st is fantastic, 2nd is even better, the 3rd is my favourite of the lot, simply on the basis it looks better, has bigger and better action, Nick Stahl is so much better than Ed Furlong it's crazy, and it's got 2 major babes, the knockout Kristanna Loken (Who i adore, and who is a fantastic bad girl) and the always beautiful Claire Danes. And everyone i know LOVES the ending of T3, the perfect ending. I haven't mentioned Salvation for 2 reasons, first it's nothing much to do with Arnie at all (Save for a horrible CGI implant) and secondly it's a rotten movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭SirLemonhead


    PaulB1984 wrote: »
    One thing i haven't mentioned though, which is ridiculous of the first movie. Kyle is sent back, father's John, then dies. Which should wipe him out of the future. If he doesn't exist in the future, how was he sent back to Sarah to father John at all? So in fairness, the first 2 movies are completely dumb when thought about. So the hate for 3 is uncalled for. None of them make any bit of sense, so take 'em for what they're worth, the action, 1st is fantastic, 2nd is even better, the 3rd is my favourite of the lot, simply on the basis it looks better, has bigger and better action, Nick Stahl is so much better than Ed Furlong it's crazy, and it's got 2 major babes, the knockout Kristanna Loken (Who i adore, and who is a fantastic bad girl) and the always beautiful Claire Danes. And everyone i know LOVES the ending of T3, the perfect ending. I haven't mentioned Salvation for 2 reasons, first it's nothing much to do with Arnie at all (Save for a horrible CGI implant) and secondly it's a rotten movie.

    Kyle would disappear in the future? why? he gets born, lives to a certain age, goes back, dies in the past.

    The second one is a bit silly and kid friendly in a lot of places so I still think the first film trumps it and is still one of my favourite Arnie films. People often say his bad acting skills are the reason he played such a great emotionless robot but you only have to watch the Terminator tv show to see how bad acting really does not make a convincing terminator :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    i believe your logic is a little flawed, kyle didnt do anything in the first movie to directly prevent his own birth so there is no reason he wouldnt exist in the future. in fact he would never have been sent back in the first place if he hadnt already been back prior to having been sent. perhaps the weirdest thing about it is that john connor must have already known that he was sending his own father back to conceive himself (if it was really a causality loop rather than an alternate timeline sort of thing) so he wouldnt have had any real choice in the matter. it is quite confusing but actually remarkably well thought out as time travel movies go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    Kyle would disappear in the future? why? he gets born, lives to a certain age, goes back, dies in the past.

    The second one is a bit silly and kid friendly in a lot of places so I still think the first film trumps it and is still one of my favourite Arnie films. People often say his bad acting skills are the reason he played such a great emotionless robot but you only have to watch the Terminator tv show to see how bad acting really does not make a convincing terminator :pac:

    Wasn't he already born in 1984 though? Anyone know how old Kyle Reese was?

    Completely agree, the TV series was garbage and thankfully was put out of it's misery fairly quick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    indough wrote: »
    i believe your logic is a little flawed, kyle didnt do anything in the first movie to directly prevent his own birth so there is no reason he wouldnt exist in the future. in fact he would never have been sent back in the first place if he hadnt already been back prior to having been sent. perhaps the weirdest thing about it is that john connor must have already known that he was sending his own father back to conceive himself (if it was really a causality loop rather than an alternate timeline sort of thing) so he wouldnt have had any real choice in the matter. it is quite confusing but actually remarkably well thought out as time travel movies go.

    Now i'm even more confused. So if Skynet wanted John dead, why go after Sarah instead of killing Kyle at what he must've been in 1984, either baby or quite young?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    skynet wouldnt have had any way of knowing he was the father of john connor at that point whereas he would have known because his mother told him. if i remember correctly skynet does try to kill reese in the fourth movie before he could be sent back, however as its a **** film the terminators go some long-winded way about it which inevitably leads to them failing. im not counting anything past the second film tbh, also the time travel logic in the second film sort of contradicts that in the first, but i suppose he wanted to end it on at least an ambiguous note if not an altogether happy one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭kitakyushu


    Arnold Schwarzenegger thread enters inevitable Terminator time-travel discussion mode.

    /unfollows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭jpm4


    PaulB1984 wrote: »
    Plot of T2... Sarah Connor attempts to kill the creator of technology for Skynet. If she does, she stops Judgement Day from ever happening. If Judgement Day never happens, there's no war in the future, if there's no war, there's no Terminators being sent back and no Kyle Reese. If Kyle is not sent back, he and Sarah will not create John Connor, Sarah will never know Kyle, therefore, in 1984, will know nothing about Judgement Day, which means in the future, Judgement Day WILL happen because she knows nothing about it to stop it, and there will be no John to fight the machines and send back Kyle at all, which means "Bye bye mankind!", the very thing she's trying to stop from happening. Did i mention Dyson actually does die also?

    If there's no Terminators sent back then Judgement Day doesn't happen because there is nothing for Dyson to base his work on. Right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Im a massive T2 fan, but have a real soft spot for True Lies. Watched it all the time as a kid. Hadnt seen it in about ten+ years and went to see it in The Screen - could have literally cried with happiness! Was an amazing experience.

    True Lies is the kind of big budget action flick they dont make anymore, the 90's were fcuking awesome for action movies. the harrier jumpjet sequence is batsh1t crazy still. We'll ignore how Arnie actually knows how to fly one :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    one of the things i love about true lies is that you can tell everyone involved was having a blast while making it, so what we end up with is a movie with great chemistry between the actors and which doesnt even attempt to take itself seriously


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    Predator is Arnie's masterpiece.

    ...The original Terminator, Total Recall & Conan all follow closely.

    T2 blew me away when I first saw it in the cinema but all these years later I feel T1 has the gritter darker edge. Who could forget those scenes of shooting up the cop shop!

    Correct me if wrong, but I think T1 is the only film where Arnie played the bad guy role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Applying logic to time travel is never a good idea, particularly if it's time travel to the past.

    I disagree, there are lots of consistent ways it might work, if it is possible. The only problem in the Terminator movies is that time travel appears to work differently in each movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I disagree, there are lots of consistent ways it might work, if it is possible. The only problem in the Terminator movies is that time travel appears to work differently in each movie.

    timetravel movies work within their own logic usually, Looper has a different mechanic to saw T2, and Primer has a different approach than,, I dunno, BTTF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭SirLemonhead


    krudler wrote: »
    True Lies is the kind of big budget action flick they dont make anymore, the 90's were fcuking awesome for action movies. the harrier jumpjet sequence is batsh1t crazy still. We'll ignore how Arnie actually knows how to fly one :pac:

    Yeah what happened James Cameron after that :(

    The Jet scene is awesome for sure .. "You're fired!" :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    kitakyushu wrote: »
    Arnold Schwarzenegger thread enters inevitable Terminator time-travel discussion mode.

    /unfollows

    I feel i need to say this. As someone using Boards.ie only recently (Although joined a few years back), i find it not only a lot of fun, with a lot of great people showing off a great deal of intelligence, but also very addictive (My tweets have fallen to an all-time low). But i do think it's a shame that there is a hint of negativity going around. As a first-time user, i've never discussed any of the topics here, so to me, it's exciting to have so many intelligent opinions for example, on this Schwarzenegger thread, and to see the passion people have for the Terminator series and it's timeline logic, i thought i'd be alone on this subject, but apparently not, which is lovely. I just wish that people who have no real interest in the discussion could merely move along to something that does interest them. Like myself for example, i comment if i have something to say on a matter, but not to point out that i don't care what other people have to say, hence why i'm not posting in sports. Please let's stop being negative and attacking people for their opinions. Even one of the mods last night took a horrible battering for not liking the Predator movie, there's no need for that. Please stop :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Utterly love Arnie movies, so much so that people tend to buy me presents in relation to him like a painting of him as the Terminator that sits above the TV :pac:

    I grew up on a healthy diet of Stallone, Norris, Seagal, Van Damme, and Arnie movies because of my older brother. I always get that special kind of fun from those movies as opposed to the modern and "so gritty you can taste the gravel" action movies.

    The majority of his movies are tongue-in-cheek and if you take him too seriously or see him as an "actor" then you'll miss his fun. He's a shìtty actor who knows it but has truckloads of charisma that carries a movie. He's a star moreso than an actor.

    Even his best and more serious movies continue the routine of giving him one-liners because he's practically the only one who can get away with it.

    Been waiting years for his comeback so I'll definitely be in line to see The Last Stand.

    Nothing beats some beer, group of friends and an Arnie movie.

    One of my favourite quotes, complete with Arnie's trademark "NNNnnnnnaaarrrgh!!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Utterly love Arnie movies, so much so that people tend to buy me presents in relation to him like a painting of him as the Terminator that sits above the TV :pac:

    I grew up on a healthy diet of Stallone, Norris, Seagal, Van Damme, and Arnie movies because of my older brother. I always get that special kind of fun from those movies as opposed to the modern and "so gritty you can taste the gravel" action movies.

    The majority of his movies are tongue-in-cheek and if you take him too seriously or see him as an "actor" then you'll miss his fun. He's a shìtty actor who knows it but has truckloads of charisma that carries a movie. He's a star moreso than an actor.

    Even his best and more serious movies continue the routine of giving him one-liners because he's practically the only one who can get away with it.

    Been waiting years for his comeback so I'll definitely be in line to see The Last Stand.

    Nothing beats some beer, group of friends and an Arnie movie.

    One of my favourite quotes, complete with Arnie's trademark "NNNnnnnnaaarrrgh!!"

    All real men grew up on these guys :D Although Seagal has sadly lost everything except the belly. But the rest are still kicking butt. Grew up on all of their movies as a lad. Nothing excites me more than Arnie hanging from the side of an aeroplane mid-air and then chasing a parachute through the sky, and Van Damme jumping off a roof onto a chopper to then shoot the pilot in the privates and watch as the villian screams his way through a vertical helicopter drop into an arena. It's what all us action movie fans want. Love this post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Pumping Iron is well worth a watch too even though its not a movie per se Arnie did say afterwards a lot of it is staged, worth watching just to see him mercilessly troll Lou Ferringno throughout the doc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    A lot of love for True Lies here, and rightfully so, it's a total riot, a real classic. But for me, James Cameron is the king of filler. Everyone he makes, he insists on peppering it with stuff it really doesn't need. True Lies is not much different. The whole middle section with Jamie Lee Curtis is just shameful. It's an interesting and funny slant to have the bored housewife wanting some adventure, believing her husband to be a boring computer geek, only to find out he's a superspy. But did they need all of that time wasted? Seriously, who wants to see Jamie Lee Curtis stripteasing? And that really long annoying interrogation scene with her locked in a room screaming. The movie for the first section is wonderful, everything a fan of Arnie, Cameron and spy movies could ask for, then that overly long middle section which could've been cut down by at least half, and then "that" finale, which blows my mind everytime i watch the movie. The massive shootout, the amazing bridge scene and then obviously the greatest part of the whole movie, the fighter jet! "You're fired!". Wow! Just someone please tell Cameron that less truly is more, we know Jack and Rose loved it each other, we don't need to watch them for 90 minutes before the Titanic starts sinking etc!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    PaulB1984 wrote: »
    Seriously, who wants to see Jamie Lee Curtis stripteasing?

    everybody? but on a more serious note i think you might be missing the point of those movies a bit. titanic is a love story and the ship sinking is the backdrop of that story. likewise true lies is a story about a bored married couple rediscovering each other, the spy stuff is there to make it more interesting. well that is my interpretation of it at least


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    indough wrote: »
    everybody? but on a more serious note i think you might be missing the point of those movies a bit. titanic is a love story and the ship sinking is the backdrop of that story. likewise true lies is a story about a bored married couple rediscovering each other, the spy stuff is there to make it more interesting. well that is my interpretation of it at least

    Eeeewwwww, dude! Not me! LOL!:eek:

    It could just be me, but i always will these movies to move on a bit. Even with Titanic, the love between them is known, but to spend 90 minutes on the story of them, that's a feature length movie in itself. Same with True Lies, by all means keep Bill Paxton and some of the middle section, but lose some of it, or interest starts to fade. Same with Avatar, wonderful movie, really wonderful, but again, could do with being a half hour shorter, i could sit down with the original cinema version and be able to chop at least 20 minutes without batting and eyelid. The Abyss, way too long yet again. Aliens could do with a trim down, The Terminator spends too long on meaningless jibber jabber between Sarah and Reese, T2 is wwwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too long. Cameron needs quality control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Predator and the Terminators are amazing.

    What I don't like, is people going bananas with the Predator costumes and calling the alien "The Predator", when clearly, Arnie IS the Predator!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Jamie Lee Curtis was seriously hot in True Lies, 'She's got tiddies that make wanna stand up and cry for buttermilk and an ass like a 10 year old boy' :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,117 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    krudler wrote: »
    Pumping Iron is well worth a watch too even though its not a movie per se Arnie did say afterwards a lot of it is staged, worth watching just to see him mercilessly troll Lou Ferringno throughout the doc.

    Yea I seen it and its a good watch,even if some of it is staged.
    Cant wait for his new one again,hope he comes out on top and back to his best!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    Here's something a whole hell of fun! The kill count from my favourite Arnie movie Eraser ... Guess how many he kills before you watch it...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    Jamie Lee Curtis was seriously hot in True Lies, 'She's got tiddies that make wanna stand up and cry for buttermilk and an ass like a 10 year old boy' :)

    Totally gross, lol, i don't see it, i just don't see it! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    jpm4 wrote: »
    If there's no Terminators sent back then Judgement Day doesn't happen because there is nothing for Dyson to base his work on. Right?

    Well, yes, for sure, that would stop it. But if no one's sent back to Sarah in 1984, who triggers off the motions that lead to her killing Dyson at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Jamie Lee Curtis was seriously hot in True Lies, 'She's got tiddies that make wanna stand up and cry for buttermilk and an ass like a 10 year old boy' :)

    She didnt show her tits until she went legits!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭jpm4


    PaulB1984 wrote: »
    Well, yes, for sure, that would stop it. But if no one's sent back to Sarah in 1984, who triggers off the motions that lead to her killing Dyson at all?

    Well nothing I guess, as that timeline should never happen? I don't think these films are really worth examining in that much detail really, great as they are.

    And the Jamie Lee Curtis affair subplot in True Lies is what makes the film special for me - love the fact that it is a fairly routine spy thriller up to that point and then veers off in a completely different direction. It's a ridiculously funny film too - the striptease, anytime Bill Paxton is on screen, the scene where the Jihad style speech (or whatever it is) is being filmed and the camera man is sweating as the camera battery is running low! Where is that kind of humor these days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Utterly love Arnie movies, so much so that people tend to buy me presents in relation to him like a painting of him as the Terminator that sits above the TV :pac:

    I grew up on a healthy diet of Stallone, Norris, Seagal, Van Damme, and Arnie movies because of my older brother. I always get that special kind of fun from those movies as opposed to the modern and "so gritty you can taste the gravel" action movies.

    The majority of his movies are tongue-in-cheek and if you take him too seriously or see him as an "actor" then you'll miss his fun. He's a shìtty actor who knows it but has truckloads of charisma that carries a movie. He's a star moreso than an actor.

    Even his best and more serious movies continue the routine of giving him one-liners because he's practically the only one who can get away with it.

    Been waiting years for his comeback so I'll definitely be in line to see The Last Stand.

    Nothing beats some beer, group of friends and an Arnie movie.

    One of my favourite quotes, complete with Arnie's trademark "NNNnnnnnaaarrrgh!!"

    Never a truer word spoken :).
    PaulB1984 wrote: »
    Totally gross, lol, i don't see it, i just don't see it! :rolleyes:

    :eek::eek: you just dont see it if you cant admire a chassis like the one Jamie Lee Curtis displays in True Lies I truely fear for man kind :p



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭Jimdagym


    Never a truer word spoken :).



    :eek::eek: you just dont see it if you cant admire a chassis like the one Jamie Lee Curtis displays in True Lies I truely fear for man kind :p


    There are some seriously dodge youtube suggestions when that awesome clip ends...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    PaulB1984 wrote: »
    [...] I just wish that people who have no real interest in the discussion could merely move along to something that does interest them. Like myself for example, i comment if i have something to say on a matter, but not to point out that i don't care what other people have to say, hence why i'm not posting in sports. Please let's stop being negative and attacking people for their opinions. Even one of the mods last night took a horrible battering for not liking the Predator movie, there's no need for that. Please stop :(

    It's a fair point though - time-travel is barely understood by physicists, let alone scriptwriters and more often than not timetravel plots only make sense the less you think about them. If Stevy Hawking & co. can't work out the mechanics of the thing I'm damn sure James Cameron hadn't ironed out all the kinks. So trying to untangle the logic nightmare of timetravel is the ultimate exercise in circular futility. Best just not to think about it, Terminator included. And that's speaking as a lifelong Dr Who fan, I know all about trying to make sense of those damned things - you just end up in knots, it isn't worth the migraines!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    jpm4 wrote: »
    Well nothing I guess, as that timeline should never happen? I don't think these films are really worth examining in that much detail really, great as they are.

    And the Jamie Lee Curtis affair subplot in True Lies is what makes the film special for me - love the fact that it is a fairly routine spy thriller up to that point and then veers off in a completely different direction. It's a ridiculously funny film too - the striptease, anytime Bill Paxton is on screen, the scene where the Jihad style speech (or whatever it is) is being filmed and the camera man is sweating as the camera battery is running low! Where is that kind of humor these days?

    Terminator totally confuses me, lol. I can't help thinking that T2 just has a screwed up logic, so does 1, and 3 does it's best to fix it by making the other 2 out to be stupid :)

    Bill Paxton is hilarious, no doubt, just the whole stripteasing thing makes me vomit, and the interrogation lasts forever, some parts of it are funny, but i love when it just goes straight back to the terrorists. The camera scene had me in a panic the first time i saw it as a kid, i laughed my head off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    Never a truer word spoken :).



    :eek::eek: you just dont see it if you cant admire a chassis like the one Jamie Lee Curtis displays in True Lies I truely fear for man kind :p


    Ehhh... Have you seen her face?... Or heard the "rumours"? That she's smuggling more than a 'chassis' ? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Two words:
    Kindergarten cop.

    /Thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    Two words:
    Kindergarten cop.

    /Thread

    I'm always a bit negative with Kindergarten Cop, i remember watching it when i was very young and dreaming up this huge action comedy movie with Arnie kicking ass and being undercover. I was disappointed when all i got was Arnie falling in love with (granted, a very cute) school teacher and a mammy's boy stupid villian as threatening as the runs. I love the school scenes with Arnie screaming at the kids and stuff, but i must admit, it's up there with the very tiny few lesser ones for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    When Arnie puts in the infinite ammo/God mode cheat at the end of Commando is probably my favourite part of 80's cinema.

    I dont think we'll ever see an action hero like him again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    When Arnie puts in the infinite ammo/God mode cheat at the end of Commando is probably my favourite part of 80's cinema.

    I dont think we'll ever see an action hero like him again.

    20 soldiers running directly behind him shooting straight at him, not one hits him. LOVE IT!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    Love Arnie, huge fan of his, as a kid in the 80's he was most kids biggest hero.

    Predator while not his best film, was probably his best role, arguably the manliest film ever made!

    Running Man is also a classic with some of his best oneliners and I always liked the character of Ben Richards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭PaulB1984


    bullvine wrote: »
    Love Arnie, huge fan of his, as a kid in the 80's he was most kids biggest hero.

    Predator while not his best film, was probably his best role, arguably the manliest film ever made!

    Running Man is also a classic with some of his best oneliners and I always liked the character of Ben Richards.

    Spot on! A kid's greatest action hero! Such a movie icon, even the name Schwarzenegger excites me, it adds so much to any movie.

    Predator is really manly, up until the gayness of Bill Duke over Jesse Ventura, lol. "I'm gonna cut your name right into him!". Methinks there was lurv there ;)

    Running Man RULES! I remember first seeing it and than huge chainsaw guy, wow, amazing movie, rarely gets the praise it deserves. Arnie is a sci-fi legend, between Terminator 1-3, Running Man, Total Recall, The 6th Day etc... Total genius.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,017 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    All this talk of classic Arnie films has me on a double feature tonight. Red Heat and then The Running Man or Predator I think (any votes? :P)



    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    All this talk of classic Arnie films has me on a double feature tonight. Red Heat and then The Running Man or Predator I think (any votes? :P)



    :D

    First watch Predator, then make some more tea... then watch it again...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭kitakyushu


    PaulB1984 wrote: »
    I feel i need to say this. As someone using Boards.ie only recently (Although joined a few years back), i find it not only a lot of fun, with a lot of great people showing off a great deal of intelligence, but also very addictive (My tweets have fallen to an all-time low). But i do think it's a shame that there is a hint of negativity going around. As a first-time user, i've never discussed any of the topics here, so to me, it's exciting to have so many intelligent opinions for example, on this Schwarzenegger thread, and to see the passion people have for the Terminator series and it's timeline logic, i thought i'd be alone on this subject, but apparently not, which is lovely. I just wish that people who have no real interest in the discussion could merely move along to something that does interest them. Like myself for example, i comment if i have something to say on a matter, but not to point out that i don't care what other people have to say, hence why i'm not posting in sports. Please let's stop being negative and attacking people for their opinions. Even one of the mods last night took a horrible battering for not liking the Predator movie, there's no need for that. Please stop :(

    Came back to have another look. Wasn't really expecting ^^ this ^^ tbh. Regarding your post I'm not saying anything negative imho. I see a thread called "The movies of Arnold Schwarzenegger" and I personally expect to get people listing their favourites and rattling off his classic quotes, discussing scenes etc. That's what I hope for and expect to see. I personally don't want to read a potentially never ending discussion about time travel paradoxes.

    The sports analogy isn't really valid either. If this thread was called "the time travel paradoxes in the terminator movies" then yeah you'd have a point. But it isn't and if it had then there wouldn't be a problem as I'd have not even opened the thread to post about my disinterest in the subject in the first place. Essentially you're calling me negative and disinterested because I actually *do* want to talk about the general topic implied in the thread title rather than something only slightly connected.

    To top it off, I didn't even tell people not to post such stuff. I just indicated *I've* no interest in it and I feel it's the kind of thing that completely derails this sort of thread. Therefore the "unfollows" comment.

    Now, some more words of wisdom from the man of the moment


    great advice Arnie!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 93 ✭✭Berlin at night


    Arnie was boss in Conan. I used to love all his action flicks and one liners when i was a kid. I saw him recently in the untouchables and he looked awful - Sly has aged so much better - still, good to see Arnie back on the screen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    I saw him recently in the untouchables and he looked awful - Sly has aged so much better - still, good to see Arnie back on the screen.

    The Untouchables?....you mean the Expendables right?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Isn't that Junior, a film Arnie should have won an Oscar for.

    No.........................................................:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Schwarzenegger and Stallone have both made some pretty bad films, however they also made some real classics. There hasn't been an action star since who could touch them.
    It's a shame they never made a film together back in the old days, all because of that giant blonde nutter Brigette Nielsen rumour has it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Schwarzenegger and Stallone have both made some pretty bad films, however they also made some real classics. There hasn't been an action star since who could touch them.
    It's a shame they never made a film together back in the old days, all because of that giant blonde nutter Brigette Nielsen rumour has it.

    Without hijacking the thread Stallone is a far better actor than he'll ever be given credit for, Rocky, First Blood, Copland, all great performances, he just fell into pastiche of himself playing meathead action roles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,321 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    I love the first Rambo, it's easily up there with Arnies best if not better, but Arnie definitely has the better catalogue of action films than Stallone.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    krudler wrote: »
    Without hijacking the thread Stallone is a far better actor than he'll ever be given credit for, Rocky, First Blood, Copland, all great performances, he just fell into pastiche of himself playing meathead action roles.

    Stallone is one of those people who gets written off as nothing more than a parody of 80s action stars like Norris when in fact he's a multi talented. The man is a great actor, a brilliant writer and a damnable fine directir. He's head and shoulders above Arnie,Willis, etc. Lundgren is likewise quite the talent, he's written and directed a number of damn good films and isn't a bad actor to boot.


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