Formula 1: Round 18 - Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Max_Charger · 03-11-2012 2:04pm

Shocking result for Alonso. Vettel didn't make it back to the pits?! Out of fuel?

frostie500 · 03-11-2012 2:05pm

Max_Charger wrote: »

Shocking result for Alonso. Vettel didn't make it back to the pits?! Out of fuel?

Could be like Lewis in Barcelona and he starts from the back of the grid!

decisions · 03-11-2012 2:06pm

frostie500 wrote: »

Could be like Lewis in Barcelona and he starts from the back of the grid!

Very few things would make me happier.

Myrddin · 03-11-2012 2:06pm

Poxy Ferrari

Tough battle for Alonso tomorrow now

Max_Charger · 03-11-2012 2:07pm

frostie500 wrote: »

Could be like Lewis in Barcelona and he starts from the back of the grid!

That would certainly make for a very interesting race tomorrow if that were to happen! He doesn't look happy with whatever is after happening.

SnowDrifts · 03-11-2012 2:07pm

If Sebastian stoped because of a lack of fuel, it will be a penalty coming his way...

Rascasse · 03-11-2012 2:07pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Poxy Ferrari Tough battle for Alonso tomorrow now

May not be so bad if Vettel has to start from the pit lane!

Myrddin · 03-11-2012 2:08pm

Rascasse wrote: »

May not be so bad if Vettel has to start from the pit lane!

Ah I doubt it, I'd say its the alt issue again rather than fuel

Rascasse · 03-11-2012 2:15pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Ah I doubt it, I'd say its the alt issue again rather than fuel

I'm not sure they would ask him to stop if just the alternator went. I didn't hear the radio message, but as soon as it happened he put it in neutral and coasted to a stop. Possible gearbox problem?

Max_Charger · 03-11-2012 2:17pm

If I was Mark Webber I'd refuse to wear RedBull's stupid numbered hats.

Ghost Train · 03-11-2012 2:25pm

Hopefully we'll get a good race tomorrow with Hamilton up there

Still a good result for Vettel with Alonso in 7th, some sort of problem for Vettel might be good for the championship battle

Rascasse · 03-11-2012 4:27pm

Trouble for Vettel?

Will probably get away with no penalty knowing RB.

SnowDrifts · 03-11-2012 4:51pm

Jake Humphrey just tweeted...

Gary Anderson on it - was just now the only man to grab Christian Horner...CH said fuel issue and we'll find outcome 'shortly' #bbcf1

That would explain Sebastian not looking so happy whilst he stood by his car. Maybe it might be just a fuel pump issue and they had enough for a sample for the FIA

Daniel S · 03-11-2012 4:58pm

Rascasse wrote: »

Trouble for Vettel?

Will probably get away with no penalty knowing RB.

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Jake Humphrey just tweeted...

That would explain Sebastian not looking so happy whilst he stood by his car. Maybe it might be just a fuel pump issue and they had enough for a sample for the FIA

Ghost Train · 03-11-2012 5:00pm

another tweet

“@easonF1: "Told that a Vettel decision will be another hour at least. Charlie Whiting, race director, has gone for dinner”

Max_Charger · 03-11-2012 5:08pm

Ghost Train wrote: »

another tweet

“@easonF1: "Told that a Vettel decision will be another hour at least. Charlie Whiting, race director, has gone for dinner”

:rolleyes:

Daniel S · 03-11-2012 5:13pm

Max_Charger wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Have to have your priorities right!

Ghost Train · 03-11-2012 5:37pm

Hope waiting for this decision isn't the most exciting part of the race weekend

Strange the delay to make a decision, with the team telling him to stop is not just the equivalent of stopping because of low fuel and a grid penalty, must be something a bit unusual... and engine related if Renault involved

recyclebin · 03-11-2012 6:07pm

Well it's past 10pm now in Abu Dhabi. Hopefully we will hear soon something soon.

Ghost Train · 03-11-2012 6:26pm

Latest tweets

frostie500 · 03-11-2012 6:35pm

I'd say that Vettel will be forced to start at the back. If it's taken this long its pretty clear that they are going to give him a penalty...just a matter of how big a penalty!

Daniel S · 03-11-2012 6:37pm

frostie500 wrote: »

I'd say that Vettel will be forced to start at the back. If it's taken this long its pretty clear that they are going to give him a penalty...just a matter of how big a penalty!

Uh oh....

Jake Humphrey on Twitter wrote:

Vettel's garage door has just been dramatically closed...without Seb's car in it. #drama #vettel #bbcf1

cherryghost · 03-11-2012 6:39pm

frostie500 wrote: »

I'd say that Vettel will be forced to start at the back. If it's taken this long its pretty clear that they are going to give him a penalty...just a matter of how big a penalty!

I'll buy you a pint if he starts last.

SnowDrifts · 03-11-2012 6:39pm

BBC F1: "Understand Vettel will start from pit lane. Waiting for confirmation"

SnowDrifts · 03-11-2012 6:42pm

Ted Kravitz ‏@tedkravitz
"Vettel excluded can start from back of grid"

Ghost Train · 03-11-2012 6:42pm

wonder why the delay, odd

decisions · 03-11-2012 6:43pm

Yessss!!!!

And Alonso is back in it!

SnowDrifts · 03-11-2012 6:44pm

Jon Noble ‏@NobleF1
"Vettel had insufficient fuel for sampling. Disqualified from qualifying. Thrown to back of grid"

frostie500 · 03-11-2012 6:44pm

cherryghost wrote: »

I'll buy you a pint if he starts last.

Ill be holding you to that!

Back of the grid for Seb but he'll start in the pitlane so that they can change him onto the prime tyres i would imagine

jdee99 · 03-11-2012 6:45pm

thats the best news I have heard all year!

Max_Charger · 03-11-2012 6:45pm

The race tomorrow is going to be epic

Somewhere in Abu Dhabi, there is a Spaniard who is a very, very happy man

frostie500 · 03-11-2012 6:46pm

Ghost Train wrote: »

wonder why the delay, odd

Yeah it'll be very interesting to see what happens because when Jo referred the matter to the stewards with Seb only having 850ml in his tank disqaulification from quali was the standard penalty and should have been handed down pretty quickly.

In saying that we had a similar wait until we found out that Lewis was being put to the back of the grid in Barcelona

Bullseye1 · 03-11-2012 6:47pm

Thats thown the cat among the pigeons.

Grim. · 03-11-2012 6:47pm

Max_Charger wrote: »

The race tomorrow is going to be epic

it really wont be lol

definitly a turn up for the championship though

Myrddin · 03-11-2012 6:48pm

The Abu Dhabi GP has just got a lot more interesting. Alonso will have his work cut out with the lads in front of him, & I'd still tip Vettel to finish strong here, possibly even a podium

edgy · 03-11-2012 6:49pm

Should make the race a bit exciting tomorrow!!

frostie500 · 03-11-2012 6:53pm

13 point championship deficit would mean that Alonso would have to finish on the podium to retake the title lead (with Vettel out of the points) so far from a foregone conclusion that he'll be leading the championship but I would be surprised if he isnt there or thereabouts tomorrow. The race pace of the Ferrari is very impressive and with two DRS zones I would say that they have geared themselves knowing that they will need to overtake cars in the race because of their poor quali pace.

Im very interested to see how Seb moves through the field. As Alonso will testify it can be pretty difficult to overtake in Abu Dhabi!

Daniel S · 03-11-2012 6:53pm

Ghost Train wrote: »

wonder why the delay, odd

SnowDrifts · 03-11-2012 6:56pm

Here is a copy of the press release...

https://twitter.com/JRobertsF1/status/264802321345699840/photo/1/large

03-11-2012 7:03pm

Sweepstakes on where Vettel will finish tomorrow? He'll get to 7th/8th unless other teams have a lot of unreliability I reckon.

Daniel S · 03-11-2012 7:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Sweepstakes on where Vettel will finish tomorrow? He'll get to 7th/8th unless other teams have a lot of unreliability I reckon.

As long as he's out of the points, or Alonso retakes the lead, I'm happy. Don't mind either driver winning the championship, just want it to go down to the last race.

Myrddin · 03-11-2012 7:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Sweepstakes on where Vettel will finish tomorrow? He'll get to 7th/8th unless other teams have a lot of unreliability I reckon.

I dunno, he can now start on the prime tyre which isn't far behind the option in terms of lap time & just push all the way. I'm betting upwards of 6th, possibly a podium even. Its far from all going Alonso's way just yet

recyclebin · 03-11-2012 7:08pm

This will a real test for Vettel tomorrow. It's been a while since he has had to overtake anyone.

Daniel S · 03-11-2012 7:09pm

recyclebin wrote: »

This will a real test for Vettel tomorrow. It's been a while since he has had to overtake anyone everyone.

FYP

03-11-2012 7:15pm

EnterNow wrote: »

I dunno, he can now start on the prime tyre which isn't far behind the option in terms of lap time & just push all the way. I'm betting upwards of 6th, possibly a podium even. Its far from all going Alonso's way just yet

Although the double DRS zones might end up counting against him. The durability of the tyres probably aren't a positive for him either, if he gets stuck behind one particularly stubborn driver he could spend half the race there.

03-11-2012 7:40pm

Ghost Train wrote: »

wonder why the delay, odd

Kravitz did a video earlier showing the line of cars to be examined and Sebs was near the back, he reckoned it would be ages before they got around to it.

decisions · 03-11-2012 7:46pm

I Kill You Scum! wrote: »

Kravitz did a video earlier showing the line of cars to be examined and Sebs was near the back, he reckoned it would be ages before they got around to it.

And then Charlie was hungry.

Frank Bullitt · 03-11-2012 7:56pm

Starting from the pitlane so its out of parcferme, I think that means they can change set-up, longer gears etc.

antodeco · 03-11-2012 9:09pm

I'm just hoping Alonso is taken out on the first corner. I really want it to come down to the final race so we, the viewers, have a reason to stay watching!

duke916 · 03-11-2012 9:12pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Although the double DRS zones might end up counting against him. The durability of the tyres probably aren't a positive for him either, if he gets stuck behind one particularly stubborn driver he could spend half the race there.

Petrov! ...jesus i remember last years race PURELY for this reason alone. This year however, my main concern for Alonso from avoiding the 'petrov' situation happening again would be that idiot Maldonado. Alonso has to climb a few places to get to him but, i think Alonso sits on the right, Maldonado on the left ...a good start should sort that out for Fernando. If not, then this twat could cause Ferrari problems.

Hamilton seems to have the perfect setup for this race but McLaren are renouned for having dodgy gearboxes & steering wheels lately. Watching practice on setanta, Hamilton was complaining again about a further delay in the electronics between selecting a gear on the wheel and it taking affect. Whether or not this problem has been ironed out is to be seen tomorrow. 21 corners and 68 gear changes per lap - could be interesting from McLarens point of view.

Alonso...well, I wouldnt necessarily say its a big 'advantage' with Vettel being forced to race from the back. I really hope Ferrari have learnt from their failed strategy last time in keeping Massa behind Alonso because team orders should play a major role here. Two things to keep in mind; use Massa to hold Vettel up as he carves through the field & (where possible) place Massa in front of Vettel when the stops are made, even if it means Massa having to do a few 'slower' laps to get the positioning right on exit...and two....make sure Alonso isnt put out behind Webber in the stops and keep him out of traffic so he can race as hard as he can. Its not rocket science so they should get this right. If I was Dominicali I would be sitting Massa down and telling him to drive hard and defend his position as if his life depended on it. I hope this is a cracking race tomorrow. Dont know about you but the indian gp is one of the most boring races on the calendar. Lets hope this flips it over.

Forza Ferrari !!!

Formula 1: Round 18 - Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

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