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Do you Speak Irish?
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Thanks for clarifying. As an "average English speaker" I try to avoid "spoting horse manure", so perhaps you could enlighten me as to whom specifically you are referring to and what passes for horse manure.
I ask because, as an average English speaker, I'm not sure whether I should take this personally and you, presumably not being an average English speaker, have not given us any input into the various points raised on the thread as to the alleged over-empahis on the Irish language in society and the need to impress it on every secondary student in the country.
It's clear that you take the Irish language very personally.
I love all languages, including English and Irish, but there you are, on a silly crusade against some language that so happens to be Irish.
As Irish speakers, we'd rather be speaking both languages happily rather than speaking one bitterly.
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It's clear that you take the Irish language very personally.
I love all languages, including English and Irish, but there you are, on a silly crusade against some language that so happens to be Irish.
As Irish speakers, we'd rather be speaking both languages happily rather than speaking one bitterly.
Seriously? You wanted the "Bus Lane" signs removed because they were in English?
As an Irish speaker, you personally be happy speaking both langauges happily, but there have been plenty others demanding the removal of monolingual signs and the intorducation of bilingual services, irrespective of the usefulness and cost. I'm not against such things, but the most important thing is the that the information is conveyed, but thats me spouting horse manure apparently.
One person on this thread even complained about being forced - Forced! - to do business in English against her will!!
(God help the poor girl if she ever ventures abroad...)Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.
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Because all 7 billion people in the world conduct their business through English, of course.
The poor boy probably hasn't even left Ireland yet. He thinks the World is a Utopian English-speaking paradise.
It raises the all-important question again - Gaelscoils.
Had he been sent to Gaelscoil or learnt Irish properly, he would be better equipped to venture abroad knowing the value of multiculturalism and multilingualism.
Instead, Ikky Poo2 will venture into the world as an English monoglot, more versed in British culture than Irish, and thus perceived by foreigners as British. This is the way of the vast majority of Irish people.
The English monoglot Irish are rarely interested in learning the language or culture of the host country, and have no sense of Irish identity. They are seen as British but can't admit to it, or just don't realise it.
To me, is the great tragedy of Irish people and their identity. What identity? They are seen a Brits because that is what they have become.
We have been an independent state for 90 years, ALL of our public schools should be Gaelscoils by now, but they're not.
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The poor boy probably hasn't even left Ireland yet. He thinks the World is a Utopian English-speaking paradise.
It raises the all-important question again - Gaelscoils.
Had he been sent to Gaelscoil or learnt Irish properly, he would be better equipped to venture abroad knowing the value of multiculturalism and multilingualism.
Instead, Ikky Poo2 will venture into the world as an English monoglot, more versed in British culture than Irish, and thus perceived by foreigners as British. This is the way of the vast majority of Irish people.
The English monoglot Irish are rarely interested in learning the language or culture of the host country, and have no sense of Irish identity. They are seen as British but can't admit to it, or just don't realise it.
To me, is the great tragedy of Irish people and their identity. What identity? They are seen a Brits because that is what they have become.
We have been an independent state for 90 years, ALL of our public schools should be Gaelscoils by now, but they're not.
Let's work on making it that way.
Ha!! Four years of settled living and working in Berlin and speaking German kinda ridicules that argument!! But hey - never let the facts get in the way f an ad homeinem attack.
You seem to confuse the concepts of language and natinoality with identity. I am not my nationality and I am not my langauge. I don't know where Britian comes into it - "British" isn't a langauge.SaulGoode9 wrote: »Well, you might have a one in one hundred million chance that the common language is Irish, ya never know
Yep. Point was mssed.Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.
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Which actually sums the whole debate up on so many levels...Goodness knows why when they most likely haven't even encountered one since Secondary School so the impact is absolutely negligible
You know you could have just typed "you're all Jackeen West Brits and not as Irish as ME!!" and saved yourself the effort and wear on your keyboard.Instead, Ikky Poo2 will venture into the world as an English monoglot, more versed in British culture than Irish, and thus perceived by foreigners as British. This is the way of the vast majority of Irish people.
The English monoglot Irish are rarely interested in learning the language or culture of the host country, and have no sense of Irish identity. They are seen as British but can't admit to it, or just don't realise it.
To me, is the great tragedy of Irish people and their identity. What identity? They are seen a Brits because that is what they have become.
We have been an independent state for 90 years, ALL of our public schools should be Gaelscoils by now, but they're not.
Let's work on making it that way.
TBH this kind of daft attitude is what turned me off the language more than being schooled in Peig ever did. It's very common among the Gaelgoiri. I've met vanishing small numbers where it wasn't the pervading attitude bubbling under the surface(funny enough they were Gaelthacht types whose first language was actually Irish). It's almost a rule they will feel like this and sooner or later it comes out, at first subtly usually ramping up to obvious in short order. I find it ironic the above poster goes on about multiculturalism in the same breath as the rest of his/her post.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Out of interest do you actually speak Irish? Your location says Adelaide, I don't know if you're joking or not but ir not someone who doesn't even live in Ireland shouldn't be preaching to us about our culture!It's clear that you take the Irish language very personally.
I love all languages, including English and Irish, but there you are, on a silly crusade against some language that so happens to be Irish.
As Irish speakers, we'd rather be speaking both languages happily rather than speaking one bitterly.0 -
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The poor boy probably hasn't even left Ireland yet. He thinks the World is a Utopian English-speaking paradise.
It raises the all-important question again - Gaelscoils.
Had he been sent to Gaelscoil or learnt Irish properly, he would be better equipped to venture abroad knowing the value of multiculturalism and multilingualism.
Instead, Ikky Poo2 will venture into the world as an English monoglot, more versed in British culture than Irish, and thus perceived by foreigners as British. This is the way of the vast majority of Irish people.
The English monoglot Irish are rarely interested in learning the language or culture of the host country, and have no sense of Irish identity. They are seen as British but can't admit to it, or just don't realise it.
To me, is the great tragedy of Irish people and their identity. What identity? They are seen a Brits because that is what they have become.
We have been an independent state for 90 years, ALL of our public schools should be Gaelscoils by now, but they're not.
Let's work on making it that way.
The British aren't our enemies, get over it. Irish citizenship isn't linked to proficiency in, or appreciation of the language, regardless of how much you might like it to be. Everyone has an identity, even if it doesn't fit into your narrow understanding. Maybe you've lost touch with Irishness?
Answer me this: Why should all public schools be Gaelscoils?0 -
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