9959 wrote: » In relation to Religion, Politics or Irish Language devotees. 1 Zealot = 1,000 'I'm just tryin' to get on with my life thanks and couldn't be arsed'. Don't have a source for the above other than personal experience and common sense, though 'LANA BUS' would be emblematic of this idiocy. By the way, in these straitened times, it's prudent to keep a 'weather eye' on ideologues, cranks and single-issue bores of every stripe. A 'little bit' of zealotry can go a long way, as we on this island know to our cost.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » The bus lane outside UCD says Bus Lana. Better get onto Dublin Bus. :rolleyes:
That username is already in use. wrote: » Where exactly is that "Bus Lana". Not only are the words reversed, but it's missing a síneadh fada. Could cause confusion to motorists.
Sorcha16 wrote: » I can never understand people complaining about the minority of Irish speakers considering the level of horse manure that's spouted by the average English speaker on a daily basis
Iwasfrozen wrote: » The bus lane outside UCD says Bus Lana.
Ikky Poo2 wrote: » You not being an English speaker...?
Aodh Rua wrote: » Please do show us this alleged writing, because it's not showing on the bus lane outside UCD, according to the Google Streetview of the Stillorgan Road entrance, where Lána Bus is repeatedly and clearly written.
Sorcha16 wrote: » I'm not referring to English speakers collectively, I'm referring to English speakers who complain exclusively about Irish speakers. Goodness knows why when they most likely haven't even encountered one since Secondary School so the impact is absolutely negligible
Ikky Poo2 wrote: » Thanks for clarifying. As an "average English speaker" I try to avoid "spoting horse manure", so perhaps you could enlighten me as to whom specifically you are referring to and what passes for horse manure. I ask because, as an average English speaker, I'm not sure whether I should take this personally and you, presumably not being an average English speaker, have not given us any input into the various points raised on the thread as to the alleged over-empahis on the Irish language in society and the need to impress it on every secondary student in the country.
That username is already in use. wrote: » It's clear that you take the Irish language very personally. I love all languages, including English and Irish, but there you are, on a silly crusade against some language that so happens to be Irish. As Irish speakers, we'd rather be speaking both languages happily rather than speaking one bitterly.
Ikky Poo2 wrote: » Seriously? You wanted the "Bus Lane" signs removed because they were in English?
That username is already in use. wrote: » I never said that. Quote me. Don't get ahead of yourself in the heat of anger. Think before you post next time.
Ikky Poo2 wrote: » One person on this thread even complained about being forced - Forced! - to do business in English against her will!! (God help the poor girl if she ever ventures abroad...)
Aodh Rua wrote: » Because all 7 billion people in the world conduct their business through English, of course.
Ikky Poo2 wrote: » I would seriously doubt that ALL seven billion do, but if they don't speak each others' native tongue, they're going to need a common language. Which won't be Irish. Beyond that, you seem to have missed the point.
That username is already in use. wrote: » The poor boy probably hasn't even left Ireland yet. He thinks the World is a Utopian English-speaking paradise. It raises the all-important question again - Gaelscoils. Had he been sent to Gaelscoil or learnt Irish properly, he would be better equipped to venture abroad knowing the value of multiculturalism and multilingualism. Instead, Ikky Poo2 will venture into the world as an English monoglot, more versed in British culture than Irish, and thus perceived by foreigners as British. This is the way of the vast majority of Irish people. The English monoglot Irish are rarely interested in learning the language or culture of the host country, and have no sense of Irish identity. They are seen as British but can't admit to it, or just don't realise it. To me, is the great tragedy of Irish people and their identity. What identity? They are seen a Brits because that is what they have become. We have been an independent state for 90 years, ALL of our public schools should be Gaelscoils by now, but they're not. Let's work on making it that way.
SaulGoode9 wrote: » Well, you might have a one in one hundred million chance that the common language is Irish, ya never know
Sorcha16 wrote: » Goodness knows why when they most likely haven't even encountered one since Secondary School so the impact is absolutely negligible
That username is already in use. wrote: » Instead, Ikky Poo2 will venture into the world as an English monoglot, more versed in British culture than Irish, and thus perceived by foreigners as British. This is the way of the vast majority of Irish people. The English monoglot Irish are rarely interested in learning the language or culture of the host country, and have no sense of Irish identity. They are seen as British but can't admit to it, or just don't realise it. To me, is the great tragedy of Irish people and their identity. What identity? They are seen a Brits because that is what they have become. We have been an independent state for 90 years, ALL of our public schools should be Gaelscoils by now, but they're not. Let's work on making it that way.
That username is already in use. wrote: » Instead, Ikky Poo2 will venture into the world as an English monoglot, more versed in British culture than Irish, and thus perceived by foreigners as British. This is the way of the vast majority of Irish people. The English monoglot Irish are rarely interested in learning the language or culture of the host country, and have no sense of Irish identity. They are seen as British but can't admit to it, or just don't realise it. To me, is the great tragedy of Irish people and their identity. What identity? They are seen a Brits because that is what they have become.
Wibbs wrote: » It's very common among the Gaelgoiri.
