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McAuliffe Trucking Co

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  • #352
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I'm a bit suprised that they are letting the foreman handle this. Where are the directors in all of this?

    http://www.irishtrucker.com/articles/2010/january/mcauliffe.asp


  • #353
    stoneill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    I do believe that they got permission from the local garda to have a photoshoot on the Castleisland roads. The you tube video was an unauthorised video taken by a person not involved in the photoshoot.

    As for the car swiping the back of the other truck under the bridge - that's his own fault.


  • #354
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,437 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    stoneill wrote: »
    I do believe that they got permission from the local garda to have a photoshoot on the Castleisland roads. The you tube video was an unauthorised video taken by a person not involved in the photoshoot.

    As for the car swiping the back of the other truck under the bridge - that's his own fault.

    Even theough the marketing photo at the end of the video is from exactly the same angle? Plus the youtube account it was originally uploaded on belongs to mcauliffes daughter so a few holes in that theory.


  • #355
    ahyeahok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭ahyeahok


    stoneill wrote: »
    I do believe that they got permission from the local garda to have a photoshoot on the Castleisland roads. The you tube video was an unauthorised video taken by a person not involved in the photoshoot.

    As for the car swiping the back of the other truck under the bridge - that's his own fault.

    The video angle is the same angle as a pic from their facebook photoshoot pics


  • #356
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    stoneill wrote: »
    I do believe that they got permission from the local garda to have a photoshoot on the Castleisland roads. The you tube video was an unauthorised video taken by a person not involved in the photoshoot.

    As for the car swiping the back of the other truck under the bridge - that's his own fault.

    The Youtube account it was originally hosted on was full of McAuliffe truck videos, are you suggesting they have a fan club?


  • #357
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭kirving


    Unauthorised? Whoever it was can film whatever they like in a public place.

    And stopping a truck on a motorway poses no risk whatsoever?


  • #358
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,710 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    MadsL wrote: »
    I'm a bit suprised that they are letting the foreman handle this. Where are the directors in all of this?

    http://www.irishtrucker.com/articles/2010/january/mcauliffe.asp

    Ha. Although that article is almost 3 years old, maybe he's gotten promoted


  • #359
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    stoneill wrote: »
    I do believe that they got permission from the local garda to have a photoshoot on the Castleisland roads. The you tube video was an unauthorised video taken by a person not involved in the photoshoot.

    Who just happened to load that up to youtube along with other vids of Mcauliffe. And be standing right next to the photographer. Yeah right.
    Look at the publicity shot at the end of the vid. They left that there for publicity shots.
    Such nonsense about "unauthorised " person. They were related to the owners.
    As for the car swiping the back of the other truck under the bridge - that's his own fault.

    if he weren't distracted by two humongous lorries parked up above him.


  • #360
    alias no.9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,345 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    stoneill wrote: »
    I do believe that they got permission from the local garda to have a photoshoot on the Castleisland roads. The you tube video was an unauthorised video taken by a person not involved in the photoshoot.

    As for the car swiping the back of the other truck under the bridge - that's his own fault.

    Do you get home to the kingdom much?


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  • #361
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    stoneill wrote: »
    I do believe that they got permission from the local garda to have a photoshoot on the Castleisland roads. The you tube video was an unauthorised video taken by a person not involved in the photoshoot.

    As for the car swiping the back of the other truck under the bridge - that's his own fault.

    His daughter took the video....


  • #362
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    Know what - I think this has gone on long enough.

    Don't get me wrong, one of the best threads on boards to date but the fun is gone out of it now and it's turned in to a witch hunt.

    Ok, they made a mistake, actually quite a few going by their vids, then they lied multiple times, then they tried to cover it up with the whole charity thing, then more lies. In fact I should have no sympathy for them at all and I wish they had held up their hands at the start and said, yup that's us, we made an ass of ourselves, and all this would be forgotten about already.

    Unfortunately they didn't but I would hate to see the companies concerned severly damaged or go out of business because of this.

    Our point was proven long ago and I truly hope they have learned from this.
    I was agreeing with you there, but this:
    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    In fairness they deserve it. One of these "stunts" could have killed some one.
    along with the fact that they tried to bull****e their way out of it and hide behind their charity shields, feck them! Their business won't close down over it.


  • #363
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    While the RTE story could have been better and I don't believe it sided with the truckers. I do think it could have tried to bite a bit harder tho. A reference to other videos such as the Paddys day roundabout where I'm sure they had permission from the guards to that along with assessing the risk. The journo just covered his ass a bit too much, where he shouldn't have at all really. All the information was and is available in the free domain along with the excuses put about by the company Truly Irish. Some attempts at re-regs accounts on what appears to be shills and the massive amount of hole digging done on facebook last night etc.


  • #364
    Mikko Mallikas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Mikko Mallikas


    Yes the RTE article is quite tame, there IS a lot more they could have said, wonder could the be waiting to see if this has any legs as a story so they can follow up tomorrow? It was me who sent it to them.


  • #365
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    From the RTE article,

    In a statement on behalf of the Castleisland-based company, organiser Davy Corkery said the photoshoot was organised to promote a charity truck run, which he plans to organise before Christmas.


    So the photoshoot was not part of a charity event on the day but to promote an upcoming event, rather convenient me thinks.

    RTE article also confirms road was not closed by gardai, again contradictory to what the company's representatives said earlier on this thread.

    Plenty of porkie pies coming out of that company today!


    Anyone able to view the exif data on the photos?

    Based on not only the reckless danger to other innocent motorists and the half-assed attempts to cover up I'll be adding a certain company to those I boycott.


  • #366
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Kenny Logins wrote: »
    The Youtube account it was originally hosted on was full of McAuliffe truck videos, are you suggesting they have a fan club?


    Maybe they think they're Eddie Stobart :) LOL

    Have yet to see Eddie Stobart behaving this way on Irish Public roads.


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  • #367
    ardmacha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    The videos here are a disgrace.
    It is also noteworthy how many people in the motors forum cannot tell a 2+2 from a motorway!


  • #368
    h2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭h2005


    stoneill wrote: »
    I do believe that they got permission from the local garda to have a photoshoot on the Castleisland roads. The you tube video was an unauthorised video taken by a person not involved in the photoshoot.

    As for the car swiping the back of the other truck under the bridge - that's his own fault.
    What do you base this belief on?


  • #369
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    ardmacha wrote: »
    The videos here are a disgrace.
    It is also noteworthy how many people in the motors forum cannot tell a 2+2 from a motorway!

    Hitting a stationary truck at 100 kph instead of 120 kph really would not make that much of a difference.


  • #370
    msg11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Mr Corkery described those who criticised the photoshoot as "begrudgers".

    :confused:

    Bloody brilliant, perfectly safe to drive a 40ft down a unclosed road on the wrong side for a 'photoshoot'.

    Is anything going to happen about this ? The drivers should be given points maybe a ban and the company fined for this act of clear dangerous driving.


  • #371
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    msg11 wrote: »
    Mr Corkery described those who criticised the photoshoot as "begrudgers".

    :confused:

    Bloody brilliant, perfectly safe to drive a 40ft down a unclosed road on the wrong side for a 'photoshoot'.

    Is anything going to happen about this ? The drivers should be given points maybe a ban and the company fined for this act of clear dangerous driving.

    I'll just leave this here:

    Road Safety Authority
    Road Haulage Enforcement
    Clonfert House
    Bride Street
    Loughrea
    Co. Galway

    Opening Hours

    09:00 - 13:00
    14:00 - 17:00

    Contact Details

    Telephone: 091 872600
    Email: enforcement@rsa.ie
    Website: www.rsa.ie



    Just sayin'. ;)


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  • #372
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Mikko Mallikas wrote: »
    Yes the RTE article is quite tame, there IS a lot more they could have said, wonder could the be waiting to see if this has any legs as a story so they can follow up tomorrow? It was me who sent it to them.


    Do RTE get advertising revenue from Truly Irish I wonder ?


  • #373
    renofan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 866 ✭✭✭renofan


    The RTE piece is embarrassing.

    The trucks in the video they have on the article shows a car coming the other way having to drive on the hard shoulder. I cannot understand how no one seems to be asking them about that. They keep splurting about a charity thing and having people on the road but the fact remains the trucks were taking over the road on both sides and over a continuous white line and forced an oncoming car into the hard shoulder. And calling protesters be-grudgers is a bit nasty from the company.


  • #374
    parsi
    Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the director of these two companies is any relation to Xavier McAuliffe, the guy behind the GoSafe speed camera consortium?

    I seem to recall that he was from that neck of the woods alright. Spectra was based around there ?


  • #375
    hightower1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    TBH this wouldnt have stopped me buying simply Irish products at all but all the BS tactics of Sean Mc and his companies here trying to cover this up , misdirect people and ultimately not own their mistakes definitely has.

    People arent fools, hell , some are downright forgiving and understand mistakes happen but what nearly everyone cant abide are people trying to lie their way or downright ignore their mistakes.

    I wouldnt give 'em a cent from here on in.


  • #376
    skywalker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    Mikko Mallikas wrote: »
    The RSA said "Thank you for your email. Unfortunately it does not come within the remit of the RSA. However we have already forwarded this matter to the Gardaí for investigation."

    Im appalled that they sent you this response.

    Think about that for a second. Road safety doesnt fall under the remit of the ROAD. SAFETY. AUTHORITY. Well in that case I suppose we can wind that organization up then, because if thats the case then I cant fathom what function they could be providing to justify us spending any money on them.


  • #377
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    hightower1 wrote: »
    TBH this wouldnt have stopped me buying simply Irish products at all but all the BS tactics of Sean Mc and his companies here trying to cover this up , misdirect people and ultimately not own their mistakes definitely has.

    People arent fools, hell , some are downright forgiving and understand mistakes happen but what nearly everyone cant abide are people trying to lie their way or downright ignore their mistakes.

    I wouldnt give 'em a cent from here on in.


    And you are one out of 21,500 viewers of this thread...


  • #378
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    msg11 wrote: »
    Mr Corkery described those who criticised the photoshoot as "begrudgers".

    :confused:

    Bloody brilliant, perfectly safe to drive a 40ft down a unclosed road on the wrong side for a 'photoshoot'.

    Is anything going to happen about this ? The drivers should be given points maybe a ban and the company fined for this act of clear dangerous driving.

    it drives me mental the way any (usually) irish person describes any kind of criticism as begrudgery.
    :mad:


  • #379
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,280 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    That RTE article really shows that they can't accept that they did anything wrong and/or are still trying to hold back the sea...


  • #380
    alias no.9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,345 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    it drives me mental the way any (usually) irish person describes any kind of criticism as begrudgery.
    :mad:

    Just because you haven't got 3 DAFs to endanger peoples lives with :p


  • #381
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Originally Posted by My name is URL viewpost.gif
    Does anyone know if the director of these two companies is any relation to Xavier McAuliffe, the guy behind the GoSafe speed camera consortium?
    I seem to recall that he was from that neck of the woods alright. Spectra was based around there ?

    He is definitely from Kerry and it's an unusual name around those parts I guess.

    Interesting article about him here - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333766/Speed-camera-tycoon-Xavier-McAuliffe-caught-speeding-twice-week.html


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  • #382
    urajoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    Just towards the end of the video part of the OP's post you can see another car approaching in the driving lane, so there were NO staff marshalling traffic for this shoot. This is completely disregarding others safety. Parking any vehicle in the driving lane of a two lane carriageway madness irrespective of whether they vehicle was using its hazards.

    I seriously hope the Gardai chase this up and prosecute both drivers and management for flaunting the ROTR repeatedly.

    Goodwill on the companies behalf at the very least would be to repair the damage to the two vehicles. Yes the driver shouldn't have changed lanes like that but I don't think they expected a HGV to be parked beneath a flyover in shadow like that.


  • #383
    stevenmu
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    hightower1 wrote: »
    TBH this wouldnt have stopped me buying simply Irish products at all but all the BS tactics of Sean Mc and his companies here trying to cover this up , misdirect people and ultimately not own their mistakes definitely has.

    People arent fools, hell , some are downright forgiving and understand mistakes happen but what nearly everyone cant abide are people trying to lie their way or downright ignore their mistakes.

    I wouldnt give 'em a cent from here on in.

    +1. I always like to support Irish companies, and buy Irish whenever I can. In particular I always buy Irish produce and foodstuffs.

    But, I don't want to feel like my purchase is supporting dangerous driving and reckless behaviour on the roads. I will not be buying any products that I believe have been transported by this company until they are willing to own up to their mistakes and give an undertaking that it won't happen again.

    Unfortunately their current attitude seems to be that they did not do anything wrong.


  • #384
    Dawn Rider
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Dawn Rider


    stevenmu wrote: »
    +1. I always like to support Irish companies, and buy Irish whenever I can. In particular I always buy Irish produce and foodstuffs.

    But, I don't want to feel like my purchase is supporting dangerous driving and reckless behaviour on the roads. I will not be buying any products that I believe have been transported by this company until they are willing to own up to their mistakes and give an undertaking that it won't happen again.

    Unfortunately their current attitude seems to be that they did not do anything wrong.

    On their website they say Kerry Ingredients is a satisfied customer. Delivering on behalf of them to Tesco, Superquinn and Musgraves.

    You can write to them and say you're not buying any more Dairy Gold etc.


  • #385
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,437 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Looks like weve got 2 McAuliffe personnel posting on the broadsheet thread

    Scroll to the very bottom
    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/10/17/dual-carraigeway-drama-latest/


  • #386
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    stevenmu wrote: »
    I will not be buying any products that I believe have been transported by this company until they are willing to own up to their mistakes and give an undertaking that it won't happen again.

    Unfortunately their current attitude seems to be that they did not do anything wrong.


    Are you listening Truly Irish? Time to ask your CEO Mike McAuliffe to man up.

    This is him, right? Sitting in the boss man's chair.

    http://www.mcauliffetrucking.com/images/ger.jpg

    Looks a lot like this guy accepting your award.

    http://compuweb.ie/_uploadedimages/Dingle-food_trulyirish.ie_d22e4a496d.jpg

    But keep on trying to "distance yourself" from your "outside hauliers".


  • #387
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,710 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Looks like weve got 2 McAuliffe personnel posting on the broadsheet thread

    Scroll to the very bottom
    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/10/17/dual-carraigeway-drama-latest/

    Spellchecker nearly exploded when I pasted this in :D
    Sean on October 17, 2012 at 6:52 pm said:
    Yous people complaing are all the idiots.. McAuliffe trucking is a great buisness who employ a lot of people.. They were rasing money for charity.. I bet you everyone that commented bad things on this dosnt know the first thing about lorrys.. It’s a way of life and they are proud of there lorrys..yous are all the people that have this country the way it is.. McAuliffes try doing something for a great cause and the first thing you do is put them down? Get a life.. Yous arnt complaining of the Eddie stobarts lorrys parked in the head sholders are you? Now how about yous all go back to your sad pathetic lives and mind your own buisness.. I support mcauliffes 110% and I say fair play for what there doing and keep it up!!



  • #388
    Chuck_Norris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Chuck_Norris


    For Forks Sake wrote: »

    Spellchecker nearly exploded when I pasted this in :D

    Yeah, his auld language skills wouldn't be up to much. Wonder is he gonna claim overtime for this?


  • #389
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Looks like weve got 2 McAuliffe personnel posting on the broadsheet thread

    Scroll to the very bottom
    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/10/17/dual-carraigeway-drama-latest/


    Sean on broadsheet says -

    "I support mcauliffes 110% and I say fair play for what there doing and keep it up!!"

    Does he mean he hopes they keep breaking the rules of the road and putting peoples lives at risk? !:)


  • #390
    Andy-Pandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Sean on October 17, 2012 at 6:52 pm said:
    Yous people complaing are all the idiots.. McAuliffe trucking is a great buisness who employ a lot of people.. They were rasing money for charity.. I bet you everyone that commented bad things on this dosnt know the first thing about lorrys.. It’s a way of life and they are proud of there lorrys..yous are all the people that have this country the way it is.. McAuliffes try doing something for a great cause and the first thing you do is put them down? Get a life.. Yous arnt complaining of the Eddie stobarts lorrys parked in the head sholders are you? Now how about yous all go back to your sad pathetic lives and mind your own buisness.. I support mcauliffes 110% and I say fair play for what there doing and keep it up!!

    I'm sure he thinks the Quinns are great lads aswell, and if you dont agree your a begrudger.


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  • #391
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    MadsL wrote: »
    I'll just leave this here:

    Road Safety Authority
    Road Haulage Enforcement
    Clonfert House
    Bride Street
    Loughrea
    Co. Galway

    Opening Hours

    09:00 - 13:00
    14:00 - 17:00

    Contact Details

    Telephone: 091 872600
    Email: enforcement@rsa.ie
    Website: www.rsa.ie



    Just sayin'. ;)

    Thanks, i sent an email off to them and to the Garda contact on the website.


  • #392
    CrowdedHouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,882 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Jaysus they gave Lance Armstrong a job !

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • #393
    MrJoeSoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Only catching up with this now...

    I've been on Boards well over 10 years and this is probably the best thread I have ever seen, a classic example of what this forum is about.

    McAuliffe's/Truly Irish, if you are reading this, YOU ARE A DISGRACE. To endanger peoples lives like you have and then to continue to have the bravado to maintain that it was for charity is sickening. Forcing oncoming motorists into the hard-shoulder whilst driving three trucks abreast, taking up an entire roundabout with your moronic drivers, and almost killing or seriously injuring other motorists by parking on a dual-carriageway.

    I feel sorry for any honest employee's at your companies, but I hope you get everything you deserve for your brazen response to this shambles.


  • #394
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Comments on boardsheet.ie are getting deleted now.


  • #395
    Gary ITR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    Dawn Rider wrote: »
    Why not get in contact with their "Satisfied customer" Kerry Ingredients?

    Head Office - Contact Details
    Kerry Group plc
    Kerry Group plc
    Prince’s Street
    Tralee
    Co. Kerry
    Ireland
    Tel: +353 66 7182000
    Fax: +353 66 7182961


    Corporate Affairs Department
    Frank Hayes
    Director of Corporate Affairs
    Kerry Group plc
    Prince’s Street
    Tralee
    Co. Kerry
    Ireland
    Tel: +353 66 7182304
    Fax: +353 66 7182972
    Email: corpaffairs@ker

    Is that not a step too far? Reardless of what they did and how they are behaving, destroying their business isn't going to achieve anything


  • #396
    Remmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    MadsL wrote: »
    Comments on boardsheet.ie are getting deleted now.

    I just had a quick look. Which ones were deleted?


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  • #397
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    What has Kerry group done other than use them as a haulage company? They would probably be considering ditching them after this fiasco but unless I'm missing something like the same CEO of Truly Irish is on the board for Kerry group, we shouldn't even be looking at them.


  • #398
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Gary ITR wrote: »
    Is that not a step too far? Reardless of what they did and how they are behaving, destroying their business isn't going to achieve anything

    I agree that is tooo much.
    But they do need to step up to the mark and stop playing the victim here.


  • #399
    Chuck_Norris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Chuck_Norris


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Only catching up with this now...

    I've been on Boards well over 10 years and this is probably the best thread I have ever seen, a classic example of what this forum is about.

    McAuliffe's/Truly Irish, if you are reading this, YOU ARE A DISGRACE. To endanger peoples lives like you have and then to continue to have the bravado to maintain that it was for charity is sickening. Forcing oncoming motorists into the hard-shoulder whilst driving three trucks abreast, taking up an entire roundabout with your moronic drivers, and almost killing or seriously injuring other motorists by parking on a dual-carriageway.

    I feel sorry for any honest employee's at your companies, but I hope you get everything you deserve for your brazen response to this shambles.

    +1. As has already been said a few times, this thread definitely deserves legendary status.


  • #400
    Chuck_Norris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Chuck_Norris


    Remmy wrote: »

    I just had a quick look. Which ones were deleted?

    I don't know if they're being deleted, but the story is no longer on the app. And I posted two comments which weren't posted.


  • #401
    ahyeahok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭ahyeahok


    What these two companies need to do is just apologise for their dangerous behavior and their woeful attempts at covering things up.
    If they did that they would have a lot less people on their case.


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