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DCI fuel card -Diesel

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,842 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    I got a call yesterday from a fuel card company (I often get them seeing as though I run a transport business) and I said I was only interested in one that could be used EU wide. The guy told me he doesn't deal with that but he could get his colleague to ring me. The colleague rang me today and chatted briefly saying the card could be used EU wide and she said she'd email me the details.


    This is the mail I got:

    And my response:
    Thanks for the mail. It's presented pretty poorly to be honest and is quite confusing. I see a number of different company names and I don't have a clue which is actually on offer and what you're comparing it to.

    I see:

    1) Direct Fuels - I've figured this is you as your email address is @directfuels
    2) chooseafuelcard.com - This is linked to in the top image in the email and is promoting the Esso Card. It appears to be a UK based site.
    3) Shell
    4) Esso
    5) EDC Network - Is this your own network?
    6) EDC Plus Network - So the EDC network plus the Esso or Fuel stations?

    So are you the provider of the regular Esso card, or are you a separate business altogether who have incorporated the Esso card into your own card and are also offering additional sites as well as toll services etc?

    Directfuels.com is not the most reassuring looking website either, what are all the links to all the different .com addresses for transaction details, change of customer details etc? I also see the network only lists UK and Ireland. Also, was your colleague who rang me initially part of a different company or is that the company is divided between different cards which work in different areas? As you can see, I'm very confused so I'm going to tell you, what I need.

    Here is a list of requirements I'm looking for in a fuel card:
    • The most widely accepted card, UK/Europe usage and not restricted to one particular chain.
    • Most competitive with the best billing system (online account review system etc).
    • Multiple cards for the same account with pin (changeable by the user)
    • Clear, obvious pricing.


    If you can let me know if your card fits the above and please explain a bit more about your company and why there seems to be so many different company names and .com addresses as at the moment, it's looking quite off-putting.

    Has anyone else heard of any of the above companies? Don't want to sign up for something, especially if they are saying I am vignettes ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Latest price I've got from DCI is 125.7c + vat per litre. Thats 3c per litre cheaper than the pump prices in the West.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    I've found fuelplus/dci an absolute nightmare to deal with

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭lau1247


    Latest price I've got from DCI is 125.7c + vat per litre. Thats 3c per litre cheaper than the pump prices in the West.

    Kris, mine is at 1.245 as of Friday midnight which mean 1.531 (incl vat).. pretty good value.. cheapest forecourt i can find at the moment is 1.569

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    lau1247 wrote: »
    Kris, mine is at 1.245 as of Friday midnight which mean 1.531 (incl vat).. pretty good value.. cheapest forecourt i can find at the moment is 1.569

    Ffs my dci is 126.3! They've made changes to their pricing structure.

    Lau1247 do you mind telling us if you're a business user, and if so, do you know how much fuel per week your account uses?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭moodrater


    The Dagda wrote: »
    lau1247 wrote: »
    Kris, mine is at 1.245 as of Friday midnight which mean 1.531 (incl vat).. pretty good value.. cheapest forecourt i can find at the moment is 1.569

    Ffs my dci is 126.3! They've made changes to their pricing structure.

    Lau1247 do you mind telling us if you're a business user, and if so, do you know how much fuel per week your account uses?
    Mine is 124.5 I haven't used it in 6 weeks because the price has been ridiculous will use it to fill up this week if it stays the same or lower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭lau1247


    The Dagda wrote: »
    Ffs my dci is 126.3! They've made changes to their pricing structure.

    Lau1247 do you mind telling us if you're a business user, and if so, do you know how much fuel per week your account uses?

    I don't think I was registered as a business user as far as I know..

    Regarding usage, back when they were cheap back before the May price rise, I used it almost once every two weeks.. I only started to use it again last week because the price was competitive again.

    hope that helps

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    moodrater wrote: »
    Mine is 124.5 I haven't used it in 6 weeks because the price has been ridiculous will use it to fill up this week if it stays the same or lower.
    lau1247 wrote: »
    I don't think I was registered as a business user as far as I know..

    Regarding usage, back when they were cheap back before the May price rise, I used it almost once every two weeks.. I only started to use it again last week because the price was competitive again.

    hope that helps

    I spoke to DCI yesterday and told them that some friends ;) have a current price of 124.5cpl when mine is 126.3cpl and they flat out denied that they are offering that price.

    Would either of you be willing to allow me to use your account details to prove that others are getting a better price?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭mp3ireland2


    The Dagda wrote: »
    I spoke to DCI yesterday and told them that some friends ;) have a current price of 124.5cpl when mine is 126.3cpl and they flat out denied that they are offering that price.

    Would either of you be willing to allow me to use your account details to prove that others are getting a better price?

    Problem is it could work the other way! they could put us on your price! I don't have my phone on me now but one of the lads in work got 125.5 today, he got 124.9 last Friday. He was always a cent cheaper than myself and lau1247, but last Friday we got 124.5 which was cheaper. He opened a business account, when he didn't have one and I'd say it was obvious by the amounts he was filling up.

    If you quote somebody's account details when you start, say they refereed you, you get the same price as them... but we could end up getting your price as I said!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Mine is now 126.7c. With VAT the full price is 155.84, now dearer than the cheapest local pump which is 153.9c. I'll be going with them until DCI gets below that again. No doubt I'll get a call from DCI & I'll give the my usual answer that I'll use the card when the price is cheapest.:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭moodrater


    125.5 here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭lau1247


    same 125.5

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    Problem is it could work the other way! they could put us on your price! I don't have my phone on me now but one of the lads in work got 125.5 today, he got 124.9 last Friday. He was always a cent cheaper than myself and lau1247, but last Friday we got 124.5 which was cheaper. He opened a business account, when he didn't have one and I'd say it was obvious by the amounts he was filling up.

    If you quote somebody's account details when you start, say they refereed you, you get the same price as them... but we could end up getting your price as I said!

    I suppose your slightly paranoid version IS possible but I thought this forum is to help people benefit from the best value that's available.

    If I can prove to DCI that someone is indeed getting a better price than me I'm going to demand the same price.
    If they instead try to raise the price for the other party, which I doubt they would, that will be immediately obvious, and again we could use the group paradigm of the forum to avoid that scenario.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 VINCWM


    Depends on how much you use it no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭mp3ireland2


    Dagda was a business user with three vehicles and I am a private user with one vehicle. I would fill up once every 2/3 weeks, so would have to be using less I'd imagine. I gave Dagda my details so now he is on the same price as me, our accounts are linked. So hopefully his price came down to mine rather than the other way around.

    The way they explain it potentially means that if we all link to each other's accounts we will get lower prices due to the volume.

    So what we could do would be find the person who gets the lowest price this afternoon and all ring up saying that we are their friend and want to link to their account.

    Just got 126.7 was 125.5 wed and 124.5 on Last Friday. This consistent with other people who were on 124.5, 125.5 to go to 126.7? Works out about 155.8 after VAT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭moodrater


    Dagda was a business user with three vehicles and I am a private user with one vehicle. I would fill up once every 2/3 weeks, so would have to be using less I'd imagine. I gave Dagda my details so now he is on the same price as me, our accounts are linked. So hopefully his price came down to mine rather than the other way around.

    The way they explain it potentially means that if we all link to each other's accounts we will get lower prices due to the volume.

    So what we could do would be find the person who gets the lowest price this afternoon and all ring up saying that we are their friend and want to link to their account.

    Just got 126.7 was 125.5 wed and 124.5 on Last Friday. This consistent with other people who were on 124.5, 125.5 to go to 126.7? Works out about 155.8 after VAT
    Just got 126.7 too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    Dagda was a business user with three vehicles and I am a private user with one vehicle. I would fill up once every 2/3 weeks, so would have to be using less I'd imagine. I gave Dagda my details so now he is on the same price as me, our accounts are linked. So hopefully his price came down to mine rather than the other way around.

    The way they explain it potentially means that if we all link to each other's accounts we will get lower prices due to the volume.

    So what we could do would be find the person who gets the lowest price this afternoon and all ring up saying that we are their friend and want to link to their account.

    Just got 126.7 was 125.5 wed and 124.5 on Last Friday. This consistent with other people who were on 124.5, 125.5 to go to 126.7? Works out about 155.8 after VAT

    I got 126.7 too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭mp3ireland2


    The Dagda wrote: »
    I got 126.7 too

    It works then, and as mooderator wasn't linked in with us we know mine didn't go up. So anybody who got a price greater than 126.7 today can PM me for my details and I'll send them on and they can ring up to get linked into our group.

    On the other had did anybody get less than 126.7 today? If so we should all link in with them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,842 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    I got a reply to my email above anyway. Sounds ok I must say. Anyone else have experience with this company?
    Sorry that you felt that way regarding the email, Just to confirm that Direct Fuels is our company name and in that company we promote cards for Ireland & Europe. For Europe we offer a EDC & Esso fuel card, the Esso card has a site network of over 14,000 sites throughout Europe with a facility to purchase tolls on the card. Our EDC card we have a site network of over 4,000 sites which we offer very competitive rates.

    EDC is our own card, EDC Plus network is EDC card & Esso card.

    Direct Fuels website has links to .com websites as we offer you an online account management facility so that you can maintain your fuel account this gives you access online to invoices, cancelling & ordering cards.

    Direct Fuels can offer you a fuel card access to 18,000 sites throughout Europe with access to over 2,000 sites in the UK.

    Billing is a weekly invoice which runs from Monday to Sunday, as advised you can access invoices online.

    All fuel cards will PIN assigned to the cards that cannot be changed by users.

    We will email you through your diesel rates every Friday and these rates will run from Monday to Sunday which is very clear. Our current fuel rate in UK 118.55ppl.

    I hope this clears up the confusion, if you require additional information please do not hesitate to contact me.



    Kind Regards,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14 dmmnnba


    I got my invoice from DCI on Wednesday and was billed at standard network rate for a fill at filling station that is listed as a core site in the 2012 directory. I emailed them on Wednesday but there has been no reply yet. Can core sites become network sites during the course of a year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    dmmnnba wrote: »
    I got my invoice from DCI on Wednesday and was billed at standard network rate for a fill at filling station that is listed as a core site in the 2012 directory. I emailed them on Wednesday but there has been no reply yet. Can core sites become network sites during the course of a year?

    If you get no reply, then reply to the next price notification email that you get on Tuesday. They should reply to that. That way works for me anyway.

    My price from midnight last night is 126.7 as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    My latest update is 127.7cpl


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Retail has come down 2-3c/litre in the last 10 days- are all your prices going up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭mp3ireland2


    Yeah I got 127.7 too which makes it 157.1 inc. VAT still cheaper than some places in Longford (159.9 is quite common around here) though I paid 156.9 at the pump yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Yeah I got 127.7 too which makes it 157.1 inc. VAT still cheaper than some places in Longford (159.9 is quite common around here) though I paid 156.9 at the pump yesterday.

    127.7 @ 23% is 157.07 with VAT included.:eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    Back down to 126.7cpl today...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Got an email tonight saying its 122.4 till next Tuesday at least. Thats 150.55 with vat.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Got an email tonight saying its 122.4 till next Tuesday at least. Thats 150.55 with vat.

    Loads of places doing 150.99/151.99 retail now- they're not killing themselves.
    150.99 seems to the standard Applegreen undiscounted price today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Gal2011


    smccarrick wrote: »
    Loads of places doing 150.99/151.99 retail now- they're not killing themselves.
    150.99 seems to the standard Applegreen undiscounted price today.

    Loads of places? Are you just quoting the stations in your local area. There is 1300 plus stations in Ireland and according to www.pumps.ie which is run by members of the public like me and you, the National Average is 155.9 so I would say Last friday night that they were giving a very good price in fairness. According to that website there is less than 20 stations in Ireland under 150.99


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Gal2011 wrote: »
    Loads of places? Are you just quoting the stations in your local area. There is 1300 plus stations in Ireland and according to www.pumps.ie which is run by members of the public like me and you, the National Average is 155.9 so I would say Last friday night that they were giving a very good price in fairness. According to that website there is less than 20 stations in Ireland under 150.99

    Ok- west from Dublin- is 149.8 TOP Ushers Quay, 149.9 Esso Palmerstown, 149.9 Applegreen Palmerstown, 151.9 in a Texaco garage Lucan-Ballydowd, 150.9 Maxol Celbridge, 151.9 Maxol Lucan, 154.9 Tesco Maynooth, 148.9 Applegreen Enfield, etc etc On the road to Galway- I couldn't actually find a station over 154.9, and actually filled up @ 148.9.........

    I'd also like to add- that any station I've seen locally- has dropped its prices by 2-3c a litre, since last Friday (which handily coincides with the massive drop in oil prices, and the surge in the dollar).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Gal2011


    Yes these would all be the stations that are the cheapest in Ireland and are in the list of 20 stations on www.pumps.ie as the top 20 cheapest stations in Ireland and i have noticed that Tralee is the other region of Ireland where you get a cheap price for diesel. All the stations will should be decreasing in Ireland over the next week as the price of diesel has fallen but that price on Friday was a v good price. Applegreen are a low cost fuel provider and I wouldn't comment on any brand here but obviously with the price on the card is in all branded stations which are much more expensive at the pump which are mostly still up on the 155 average. The price for diesel in Galway city where I am based in 157.9 today and cheapest in Galway is 154.9. I wish i was located near to one of those stations you mentioned though. Galway seems to be very expensive always.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭paddyp


    Gal2011 wrote: »
    Yes these would all be the stations that are the cheapest in Ireland and are in the list of 20 stations on www.pumps.ie as the top 20 cheapest stations in Ireland and i have noticed that Tralee is the other region of Ireland where you get a cheap price for diesel. All the stations will should be decreasing in Ireland over the next week as the price of diesel has fallen but that price on Friday was a v good price. Applegreen are a low cost fuel provider and I wouldn't comment on any brand here but obviously with the price on the card is in all branded stations which are much more expensive at the pump which are mostly still up on the 155 average. The price for diesel in Galway city where I am based in 157.9 today and cheapest in Galway is 154.9. I wish i was located near to one of those stations you mentioned though. Galway seems to be very expensive always.

    Saw 157.9 in Roscommon too not sure if it was Topaz or Maxol, place in knockcroghery was around 152 when I was passing. Galway is always expensive was 10c more than roscommon all summer long. I have a friend in Knocknacarra that drives up and down to Cork and he says the same, every station between oranmore and cork city is at least a few cents cheaper than galway city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    Did anyone else with the fuel card get a text from DCI with their price from midnight tonight (@ Core sites) — 119.99c/litre? (down from 126.2 or thereabouts for the last few months — I haven't used my card in ages...)

    If it's not a mistake, it's the most substantial drop I've seen since I got the card a year or two ago — and not a bad price, at slightly under 147.5c/litre incl. VAT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭super_freddie


    Mine hasn't been above 124 since February 1 and today's text was for 121.7, interesting difference with what peckerhead saw. Wonder are they starting to vary geographically or for business / private users?

    super_freddie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    Must be. Mine went up as high as 127.8 around the middle of February (private user, Limerick area) — hence the months of non-use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    how can you tell which are core stations and whats the VAT rate, thinking of getting one


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭super_freddie


    The plot thickens - I'm a private user in the Limerick area too...

    They send you out a map that shows core and non-core stations.

    super_freddie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    Wow. So we could be buying the same fuel out of the same stations/pumps and paying different prices, for no apparent reason? Might drop them a line... they're free to charge what they want, I suppose, and me to take it or leave it, but it's a bit fishy all right!

    @TheDriver: VAT is 23%, so multiply the quoted price by 1.23.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Bloody hell. I was quoted 122.5cpl:( in an email 10 mins ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭lau1247


    mine is 121.5 from the text from midnight today

    yeah interesting how few different people get different rates

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    just looked at the core listings from a few pages back and noticed that anything near me is TOP or Great Gas and they are usually cheaper anyways. I was hoping for Topaz or Esso or Maxol to be present, pity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    My father was getting bills for €1.31 per litre plus vat. Meaning they were charging him more than what he would pay at the pump. But I phoned them up and they reduced the price hugely as they apparently were unaware of diesel prices in Dublin. Plus the more fuel you use the cheaper it gets


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭paddyp


    So haven't used min in ages as it cheaper at the pump, just got a price of 115.1 which makes it 10c cheaper than the local pumps again, it must be the time of year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭alphanumeric


    My price from midnight was 118.4 (Private User). Do they vary the price that much from user to user?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    My price from midnight was 118.4 (Private User). Do they vary the price that much from user to user?

    Very good question. I got an email tonight to notify me that my price till Friday is 115.1c:D:D:D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Very good question. I got an email tonight to notify me that my price till Friday is 115.1c:D:D:D

    How does this compare with a pump price (aka after VAT and whatever else is added into the equation?)

    I've been getting diesel at a Tesco special offer price of 141.9 for the past few weeks, but unfortunately its up again- so back to 150.9.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    Tesco Diesel? Thought that was a bad idea to get no matter what the price???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    smccarrick wrote: »
    How does this compare with a pump price (aka after VAT and whatever else is added into the equation?)

    I've been getting diesel at a Tesco special offer price of 141.9 for the past few weeks, but unfortunately its up again- so back to 150.9.........

    I'm in the West. Cheapest I've seen it at pumps in my travels in the past few days was 147.9. The VAT-inclusive price with DCI is now 141.57c


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    He forgot to mention the €1 per month "card protection" charge that they put on my account without my consent.

    JEmily wrote: »

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