Science TR071

NoHarm1994 · 06-09-2012 8:00pm

I'm thinking of doing Chemistry even though I didn't do it for the LC, is anyone heading in to Trinity on Monday to do the Chemistry course for the week?

Knock0ut · 06-09-2012 9:58pm

NoHarm1994 wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing Chemistry even though I didn't do it for the LC, is anyone heading in to Trinity on Monday to do the Chemistry course for the week?

Yep! Same as you, haven't done chemistry before either.

Jammyc · 06-09-2012 10:36pm

Don't worry about not having done Chemistry. I didnt do it for the LC either and the 2 chemistry modules ended up being among my highest marks in 1st year. Its a bit scary at first but just find a book that suits you and go to the lectures and you'll be fine. Plus, a good few people I spoke to that had done chemistry for the LC said that they felt the playing field was level quite quickly into the course.

When I was in 1st year, there were also basic chemistry tutorials every week for people who hadn't done/were struggling with chemistry. I found these absolutely brilliant, so look out for them!

NeuroCat · 06-09-2012 11:03pm

NoHarm1994 wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing Chemistry even though I didn't do it for the LC, is anyone heading in to Trinity on Monday to do the Chemistry course for the week?

I'd agree with Jammy, if anything I actually think it's a little better to have not studied it. Many of the things on the L.C chemistry course are irrelevant, mainly on the organic side of things!

Irish_wolf · 07-09-2012 10:18am

NeuroCat wrote: »

I'd agree with Jammy, if anything I actually think it's a little better to have not studied it. Many of the things on the L.C chemistry course are irrelevant, mainly on the organic side of things!

Yup got a B2 in chemistry in the LC, barely passed chem 2 in first year. My chemistry teacher in the LC was woeful, taught us completely arseways. Sometimes a fresh view is better for chemistry, and the lecturers are mostly sound and will help you through the course material after the classes if you go up and talk to them.

jimy1982 · 07-09-2012 8:03pm

Hi Im starting science in Trinity in a few weeks , I was just wondering what books would be helpful, so far I have heard of Campbell and Reece for biology. But any other suggestions , I most likely will be taking biology, geography, maths methods and geology. I understand a lot will be from the lecturers own printed notes but I would really like to have my own books as back up.

bscm · 08-09-2012 2:25pm

jimy1982 wrote: »

Hi Im starting science in Trinity in a few weeks , I was just wondering what books would be helpful, so far I have heard of Campbell and Reece for biology. But any other suggestions , I most likely will be taking biology, geography, maths methods and geology. I understand a lot will be from the lecturers own printed notes but I would really like to have my own books as back up.

Geography: Introduction to Physical Geography was good, worked well for some parts of Geology also. If it's the same lecturers this year again, only 2 had online notes (1 lecturer's slides were mainly pictures) and the main lecturer didn't have any online notes so you'll have to transcribe the lectures

Geology: Earth (the Chernicoff, Fox, Tanner one) was pretty good too, but if you have the same lecturer for this year then his notes will get you a decent grade without the book

Both books can be gotten from the library with no hassle aside from exam times and when essays are due

Lawliet · 08-09-2012 4:55pm

Don't bother with a maths method book, the module is only one semester long and the Khan Academy videos are a lot better than a textbook anyway

Glitter_star94 · 08-09-2012 5:51pm

If i've choosen which modules I want to do, do i have to tell trinity or something like that, or do i wait until freshers? And how do i know what books to get?

NeuroCat · 08-09-2012 6:30pm

Glitter_star94 wrote: »

If i've choosen which modules I want to do, do i have to tell trinity or something like that, or do i wait until freshers? And how do i know what books to get?

I believe you'll have a module choice meeting with one of the lecturers in the first week, you should receive an email about it when you get your account. They will discuss the choices with you and make sure you know what you want to do then you hand in the form they give you.

You'll be told the books needed in the first lectures of each module.

Lawliet · 08-09-2012 7:11pm

Glitter_star94 wrote: »

If i've choosen which modules I want to do, do i have to tell trinity or something like that, or do i wait until freshers? And how do i know what books to get?

On Monday of Freshers week there'll be module registration. You'll have a talk in the morning from all the departments about what each choice is about, what moderatorships you can do with with that choice etc. then afterwards you'll go to the science course office and be given some forms and course booklet. You can chose to fill out the forms, hand them in and leave, or you can talk to a lecturer first. There'll be some students -like myself- around helping out on the day, so you can ask us questions as well.

You don't have to get any books, they're all in the library. Lecturers usually suggest some in the first lecture, if you post your module choices here someone could probably tell you what the recommended textbook is, but again its not necessary to have textbooks.

apkbarry · 08-09-2012 7:45pm

NoHarm1994 wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing Chemistry even though I didn't do it for the LC, is anyone heading in to Trinity on Monday to do the Chemistry course for the week?

Knock0ut wrote: »

Yep! Same as you, haven't done chemistry before either.

Cyas there lads! Absolutely bricking it =/

leavingcert. · 08-09-2012 8:48pm

How hard is the maths module? Not sure whether to do it or just do maths methods and then do foundation physics... I'm fairly good at maths, got a B in higher level for the LC- but I'm not sure if I'd be willing to put a LOT of work into it

SharpBerry · 08-09-2012 9:28pm

leavingcert. wrote: »

How hard is the maths module? Not sure whether to do it or just do maths methods and then do foundation physics... I'm fairly good at maths, got a B in higher level for the LC- but I'm not sure if I'd be willing to put a LOT of work into it

Not very. At all. I got an A1 at OL. Managed to get ~68 in both modules in first year, and a first in calculus in second year. It's grand. Just keep up with the lectures & go over exam papers.

That said, Maths Methods is supposedly meant to be piss for anyone alright at maths & baby physics is essentially the LC course, which'd be a doss if you've already done it. If you're just trying to make up credits then go the methods & foundation route, imo! No point putting yourself through any unnecessary stress!:p

bscm · 08-09-2012 10:29pm

leavingcert. wrote: »

How hard is the maths module? Not sure whether to do it or just do maths methods and then do foundation physics... I'm fairly good at maths, got a B in higher level for the LC- but I'm not sure if I'd be willing to put a LOT of work into it

First semester Maths is grand (as long as you go to the majority of lectures

). You'll be well able for it if you sat HL for the LC

The linear algebra part was well explained and not difficult (we spent weeks on topics which the straight/TSM Maths students spent one lecture on). If the exam papers stay the same then you can get a decent grade from linear algebra and your tutorials without even touching any calculus (some of the calculus is LC stuff, so even that side of the module isn't too hard either)

NoHarm1994 · 09-09-2012 2:52pm

Do you need to do Maths for both semesters to any specific options in third year? I'm planning on just doing Maths Methods and Geology because I think I'll enjoy those modules more

However if not doing Maths 1 and 2 will make other options unavailable to me later I might reconsider?

NeuroCat · 09-09-2012 3:02pm

NoHarm1994 wrote: »

Do you need to do Maths for both semesters to any specific options in third year? I'm planning on just doing Maths Methods and Geology because I think I'll enjoy those modules more However if not doing Maths 1 and 2 will make other options unavailable to me later I might reconsider?

You need 1 term of maths/maths methods for most choices in 3rd year. The more difficult maths is only a requirement for Physics/Astrophysics I believe. took Maths Methods and Geology in first year and I didn't feel restricted in my subject choices in 3rd year at all.

NoHarm1994 · 09-09-2012 4:16pm

NeuroCat wrote: »

You need 1 term of maths/maths methods for most choices in 3rd year. The more difficult maths is only a requirement for Physics/Astrophysics I believe. took Maths Methods and Geology in first year and I didn't feel restricted in my subject choices in 3rd year at all.

Cheers

How did you find Geology? I don't know much about it but from what I do know it sounds interesting!

NeuroCat · 09-09-2012 4:47pm

NoHarm1994 wrote: »

Cheers How did you find Geology? I don't know much about it but from what I do know it sounds interesting!

It was alright in first year, interesting enough! I took 4 modules of it in second year (Mainly to avoid the very daunting chemistry modules!) and it was a considerable step up from the first year course.

The origin of the universe as covered in the first year geology module is very interesting!

SharpBerry · 11-09-2012 7:49pm

Hi guys, I'm heading into third year and wouldn't mind getting rid of my old books if anyone's interested in buying them, PM me please.

JF:
Maths

Calculus, Late Transcendentals Anton, Bivens, Davis. 9th Edition. This is the same book for Multivariable Calculus in SF
Elementary Linear Algebra Anton, Romes. 10th Edition

Chemistry

Chemistry and Chemical Reactivity Kotz, Treichel, Townsend. 7th Edition.
Fundamentals of Organic Chemistry McMurry. 7th Edition
Maths for Chemistry Monk, Munro. 2nd edition

Biology

Biology Campbell, Reece. 8th Edition

SF:
Chemistry

Atkins' Physical Chemistry Atkins, de Paula. 8th Edition
Elements of Physical Chemistry Atkins, de Paula. 5th Edition
Organic Chemistry Clayden, Greeves, Warren and Wothers.
Inorganic Chemistry Housecroft, Sharpe. 3rd Edition
Inorganic Chemistry Instant Notes Cox. 2nd Edition

Biology

BY2201
Neuroscience BIOS Instant Notes Longstaff. 3rd Edition
BY2205
Microbiology BIOS Instant Notes Baker, Griffiths, Nicklin. 4th Edition
BY2208
Genetics BIOS Instant Notes Fletcher, Hickey, Winter. 3rd Edition
BY2202
Human Physiology Sherwood. 3rd Edition.

Ehmmm? · 14-09-2012 7:16pm

Is chemistry in 2nd year really difficult? I really like it and I do well in it but I wanted to pick foundation physics, maths methods, chemistry and biology but would be better picking geology or geography instead of physics?

Ehmmm? · 14-09-2012 7:27pm

Oh and has anyone had a message on mytcd with thier tutor's details? It said we sould have gotten a message about that by now but I haven't.

Scrappychimow · 14-09-2012 7:37pm

Ehmmm? wrote: »

Is chemistry in 2nd year really difficult? I really like it and I do well in it but I wanted to pick foundation physics, maths methods, chemistry and biology but would be better picking geology or geography instead of physics?

Pick geography!

14-09-2012 8:21pm

Ehmmm? wrote: »

Is chemistry in 2nd year really difficult?

Yes.

NeuroCat · 14-09-2012 9:55pm

Have any of the continuing students from Science not received the invitation to register yet? I'm just a bit apprehensive since I haven't received any correspondence from them since I paid the fees.

14-09-2012 10:30pm

NeuroCat wrote: »

Have any of the continuing students from Science not received the invitation to register yet? I'm just a bit apprehensive since I haven't received any correspondence from them since I paid the fees.

Me neither. I figure since the card collection thing isn't for ages they wont be getting their stuff together until they have to. Problem is I need my registration confirmation before I can get my grant acceptance finalised!

Surely they'll have to let us register by October

leaveiton · 20-09-2012 10:49pm

This might be a stupid question but here goes. I'm going to need a dissecting kit for biology, but I have an old one belonging to my sister. Would that be okay to use? I don't really see why not, just making sure

Jammyc · 20-09-2012 10:55pm

leaveiton wrote: »

This might be a stupid question but here goes. I'm going to need a dissecting kit for biology, but I have an old one belonging to my sister. Would that be okay to use? I don't really see why not, just making sure

Yeah, most likely be fine. Hardly a need for everyone to buy one anyway, they have spare tools in the lab and usually the dissections are 1 between 2.

Old Person · 21-09-2012 1:22am

so are the timetables for science out yet?

and if so, is there a way of wirelessly viewing them?

1sparkey · 21-09-2012 10:14am

I have been told that I will not need a dissection kit for first year biology, by a student who just completed first year. Also , I have not received my timetable , I presume everyone is in the same situation

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