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HEC SF: Clermont Auvergne vs Leinster; Sunday 29 April, KO 1600(CET); Live Sky Sports

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    #872
    thomond2006
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    http://www.sportsfile.com/id/615715/

    Look where Joe Schmidt was in the last minute!

    I actually laughed out loud, ligind!


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    #873
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    So apparently johnny took over at half time again:


    http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/european/2012/0429/318950-schmidt-relieved-after-close-call/


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    #874
    Tox56
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    Can't blame Schmidt, I was jumping up and down wanting to get out there myself!


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    #875
    irishbucsfan
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    So apparently johnny took over at half time again:


    http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/european/2012/0429/318950-schmidt-relieved-after-close-call/

    We're lucky to have a player of his confidence and ability playing a type of rugby that suits him


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    #876
    MungBean
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    Watching the end again and the Clermont 20 clearly head butts Leo and then proceeds to try and twist his head off. Wonder if he'll be cited for it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld2SorgVK9c


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    #877
    Fishooks12
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    http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/european/2012/0429/318950-schmidt-relieved-after-close-call/

    Cookie Monster!


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    #878
    clsmooth
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    MungBean wrote: »
    Watching the end again and the Clermont 20 clearly head butts Leo and then proceeds to try and twist his head off. Wonder if he'll be cited for it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld2SorgVK9c

    And a headlock thrown in for good measure! Fair play to Leo for not losing the head


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    #879
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    We're lucky to have a player of his confidence and ability playing a type of rugby that suits him

    His kicking from hand in the first half was a bit ropey but he really came on in the second.

    Definitely one of the greatest HEC games.


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    #880
    duckysauce
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    MungBean wrote: »
    Watching the end again and the Clermont 20 clearly head butts Leo and then proceeds to try and twist his head off. Wonder if he'll be cited for it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld2SorgVK9c

    thats nasty , saw him trying to pull Leo's head off during the game didn't see the head butt though


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    #881
    Tox56
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    Saw that guy come on and when he was packing down for a scrum he looked absolutely posessed, not surprised he lost it..


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    #882
    Fishooks12
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    Tox56 wrote: »
    Saw that guy come on and when he was packing down for a scrum he looked absolutely posessed, not surprised he lost it..

    Made an awful knock on before that too, was probably trying to make up for it by decapitating Cullen


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    #883
    Clegg
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    Sivivatu had a brilliant game today. He was their best back by far.

    He fell off tacklers and made plenty of yards. He's definitely a foreign signing thats come to earn his money.


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    #884
    totallegend
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    Watching highlights now on Sky, the Fofana knock-on was not poor play by him, he got absolutely emptied by D'Arcy a metre from the line.

    Shocking foul play from Bardy on Cullen, desperate times & desperate measures I suppose.


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    #885
    [Deleted User]
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    Clegg wrote: »
    Sivivatu had a brilliant game today. He was their best back by far.

    He fell off tacklers and made plenty of yards. He's definitely a foreign signing thats come to earn his money.

    Was my MotM for certain.


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    #886
    Neil3030
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    How the **** is Quinnell calling that a try ???


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    #887
    duckysauce
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    Neil3030 wrote: »
    How the **** is Quinnell calling that a try ???

    he is welsh :P


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    #888
    totallegend
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    Neil3030 wrote: »
    How the **** is Quinnell calling that a try ???

    Bizarre. He was saying that the angle that's all blurry and out of focus, it's a try, but the one with perfect resolution shows it's not a try. "They got away with it" Eh???


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    #889
    Neil3030
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    totallegend wrote: »
    Bizarre. He was saying that the angle that's all blurry and out of focus, it's a try, but the one with perfect resolution shows it's not a try. "They got away with it" Eh???

    Exactly! To paraphrase further, "from this angle here, where we can't actually see what happens, it's a try, then when you see it from the other shot, where the ball clearly isn't grounded, you're not so sure...."


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    #890
    Hagz
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    Rob Kearney: Luck goes your way sometimes and I think we were probably very lucky out there for it to finish the way it did.

    What a bitter man.

    *Runs for cover


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    #891
    Dangerous Man
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Rob Kearney: Luck goes your way sometimes and I think we were probably very lucky out there for it to finish the way it did.

    What a bitter man.

    *Runs for cover

    Good point - but there's a world of difference between magnanimity and bitterness. Had Leinster won by 20 points those same people who are calling Leinster lucky would say Clermont were terrible. There are those who are just embittered. It's a shame, really.


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    #892
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    With about 4mins to go Clermont had a penalty pretty much in front of the posts, fairly central anyway, but Parra tapped and went. I was amazed at this. All they had to do was slot the penalty, then control the game from the kickoff and work it up to at least a drop goal position. Then I was thinking they'd one missed penalty (5/6 is still pretty good) but 4 missed drop goals. In a way they had to go for the try then especially after the missed drop goals in the QF in the RDS a few years back.

    Clermont had scored 27 tries in this years HEC which is by far the highest and are third highest in the Top 14 try scoring table with 42. Yet Leinsters defence today was brilliant and they weren't getting much of a look in until the very death. Even still D'arcy was there to put Fofana in such a position that he was coming over the line on his back. Looking at ESPN's stats Leinster made 123 tackles and missed 9 giving a tackle success rate of 93.2% which is excellent really.

    People have said that we were lucky today but you make your own luck i.e. Clermont had to go for a try to win the game even though there were other options, they had to break our defence. You don't get lucky in defence, you work for everything you get. That's just what Leinster did, we worked for everything.

    Take Mike Ross for example. When he came over from Harlequins he was a guy who for the most part just scrummaged. His loose play was relatively non existent. He made 10 tackles in defence today and punched through their line on one occasion too with real conviction. He worked for everything today.

    It's great to see, but as I said earlier you don't get lucky when you work so hard.


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    #893
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Did anyone see the look of shock on Ross's face when he had to catch a line out in the first half?


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    #894
    totallegend
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    Did anyone see the look of shock on Ross's face when he had to catch a line out in the first half?

    It was just as well he did. Plenty to work on for Leinster in terms of the lineouts. To me, it seemed like the problem was the throwing rather than the jumping, but maybe the arrival of Thorn has disrupted things a bit.


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    #895
    durkadurka
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    totallegend wrote: »
    It was just as well he did. Plenty to work on for Leinster in terms of the lineouts. To me, it seemed like the problem was the throwing rather than the jumping, but maybe the arrival of Thorn has disrupted things a bit.

    The line out has defo not been right since thorn arrived.


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    #896
    Piliger
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    I though the Darce and BOD both had immense games today. BOD is almost back to where he was five years ago. Their super smart tag teaming neutralised a potent Claremont midfield from the get go. Leinster played, imho, slightly below par especially in their rucking. Their clearing was consistently poor where they were coming in after the first Claremont man and instead of getting under him and scooping him off, they were going down beside him and ridiculously trying to wheel him sideways. Disappointing, though it improved considerably in the second half.

    In the pub in Ranelagh (Smyths) the place was totally perplexed for each of the first two or three kicks by Sexton .. the camera angles were DREADFUL all game and they seemed to show his kicks wide. We were agog when they were shown to have been successful.

    For me Sexton's late kick was also clearly over. And for the record I DO NOT get it that two professional referees standing at the base of their posts cannot judge if a kick it in-or-out ...
    Again ... the camera work all through the game was ATROCIOUS.

    As far as luck goes, I thought we were overall unlucky throughout, except for the last minute when we nearly through the whole thing away with that last scrum. Thankfully Claremont's decision making was poor throughout imho.


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    #897
    lologram
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    The line out has defo not been right since thorn arrived.

    The biggest proportion of lost lineouts seem to be for not straight. That's on Strauss or Cronin, not Thorn.


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    #898
    durkadurka
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    Yes the camera work sucked majorly


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    #899
    kc66
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    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    I thought Sextons kick was probably over too

    Swings and roundabouts

    I think it was over. The camera position was well to the right of Sexton,. The ball was barely to the right of the post from the camera angle, so it was not a good indication of the ball relative to the post. They should have shown an angle from behind the posts.
    I've never had to leave the room because I cannot watch the game during any sport, but as soon as I did I thought I cannot not watch it.


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    #900
    durkadurka
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    lologram wrote: »
    The biggest proportion of lost lineouts seem to be for not straight. That's on Strauss or Cronin, not Thorn.

    Agreed- is it coincidence that it happened since thorns arrival?


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    #901
    tolosenc
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    Thorn out!

    :P


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