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HEC SF: Clermont Auvergne vs Leinster; Sunday 29 April, KO 1600(CET); Live Sky Sports

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    #842
    Fishooks12
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    John.Icy wrote: »
    Fofanna lost that game for Clermont. What was he at trying to do some fancy backwards one handed touchdown...still only fingertips from a try though. So yeah..go leinster..lucky to be in the final.

    He just lost control trying to get it down behind his back

    No show boating involved

    Leinster deserved to win too


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    #843
    John.Icy
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    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    down behind his back

    If you had heard that on the radio, you'd be wondering what on earth he was up to.

    Ball hit off his upper arm too which knocked it from his control....if thats not lucky for Leinster....oh well....someone call Oxford and get that definition changed!


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    #844
    Tox56
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    Clermont fans on their forum surprisingly acceptant of the loss. Obviously annoyance with Barnes, but not on the scale I thought (reading through Google Translate that is). They talk about Leinster being a class apart and still a notch above ASM, and bemoan Fofana's missed try and other handling errors. Also saying they should be proud of their team for pushing a team like Leinster so close.

    Still many of them annoyed with Barnes though.


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    #845
    Clegg
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    John.Icy wrote: »
    Fofanna lost that game for Clermont. What was he at trying to do some fancy backwards one handed touchdown...still only fingertips from a try though. So yeah..go leinster..lucky to be in the final.
    Or perhaps the D'arcy tackle on Fofana won the game for Leinster?


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    #846
    shuffol
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    The images of their fans cheering wildly for their team after the final whistle is one of the reasons I love rugby so much. Their an absolute credit.


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    #847
    gosplan
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    shuffol wrote: »
    The images of their fans cheering wildly for their team after the final whistle is one of the reasons I love rugby so much. Their an absolute credit.

    I remember feeling slightly ashamed a couple of years back when a small pocket of them more or less drowned out the rest of the rds.


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    #848
    Riskymove
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    gosplan wrote: »

    Either way, fair play Darce, no??

    the level of ability for the average armchair rugby fan to recognise off-the-ball or "unseen" work is shockingly low

    d'arcy and o'driscoll both put in phenomenal defensive work


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    #849
    chupacabra
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    Some of the barely concealed bitterness here is saddening. Fofana lost it forward, I dont see any "luck" in that. Luck is something 50/50 that goes your way or doesnt. A collapsed scrum, the bounce of a ball, the change of wind direction that can cause a kick to go wide etc. not an error by a player. If we're REALLY talking luck then Leinster were very unlucky not to win it by even more considering Nacewas kick in the first half could have bounced the other way leading to a try or the wind could have died down and not changed the shape of Johnnys "missed" kick or the TMO could have decided otherwise. Cop on to yourselves and stop nit picking over a superb performance by both teams.


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    #850
    OldRio
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    It never ceases to amaze. Just when you think you have seen it all.
    Tension, fecking tension ???
    What a physical battle. How those players put their bodys through that I just do not know.
    The begrudging by some (the usual suspects) is sad but inevitable.
    Great weekend for Irish Sport.
    Great weekend for Irish Rugby.
    IRFU wake up and start to ask questions. Tis your job.


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    #851
    kennedmc
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    chupacabra wrote: »
    Some of the barely concealed bitterness here is saddening. Fofana lost it forward, I dont see any "luck" in that. Luck is something 50/50 that goes your way or doesnt. A collapsed scrum, the bounce of a ball, the change of wind direction that can cause a kick to go wide etc. not an error by a player. If we're REALLY talking luck then Leinster were very unlucky not to win it by even more considering Nacewas kick in the first half could have bounced the other way leading to a try or the wind could have died down and not changed the shape of Johnnys "missed" kick or the TMO could have decided otherwise. Cop on to yourselves and stop nit picking over a superb performance by both teams.

    Not to mention Kearney not giving the ball wide when there was a man free in the 2nd half


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    #852
    Conas
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    The reaction from Fofano was weird. He celebrated as if he was certain he scored, but he must have known deep down he lost control.

    He'll have nightmares tonight of what might have been, like Brock James two years ago. But that's the beauty of rugby and sport in general, you make your own luck. Roll on Twickenham.


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    #853
    desaparecidos
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    I missed the TG4 highlights. Anyone know any other channel that's showing them, other than Sky?

    I thought ITV were showing highlights this season but can see it in the TV Guide.


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    #854
    BBDBB
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    Conas wrote: »
    The reaction from Fofano was weird. He celebrated as if he was certain he scored, but he must have known deep down he lost control.

    He'll have nightmares tonight of what might have been, like Brock James two years ago. But that's the beauty of rugby and sport in general, you make your own luck. Roll on Twickenham.


    perhaps he thought hed grounded the ball when the ball touched his own arm??


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    #855
    [Deleted User]
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    wow.

    The emotional swings were tough to take! Almost got sick in the last few minutes. Porterhouse in London went absolutely deathly silent for the intial incident of Fofana breaking the line, and then went absolutely ballistic when the replay showed he hadn't grounded it.

    On train home now looking forward to making the journey back down in a few more weeks though! Irish invasion of London (even more so that already!)


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    #856
    Neil3030
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    kennedmc wrote: »
    Not to mention Kearney not giving the ball wide when there was a man free in the 2nd half

    Was Luke in, though? I remember thinking it didn't look a nailed on try. I only saw the replay once from one angle though.


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    #857
    irishbucsfan
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    wow.

    The emotional swings were tough to take! Almost got sick in the last few minutes. Porterhouse in London went absolutely deathly silent for the intial incident of Fofana breaking the line, and then went absolutely ballistic when the replay showed he hadn't grounded it.

    On train home now looking forward to making the journey back down in a few more weeks though! Irish invasion of London (even more so that already!)

    Hope the atmosphere in there was good enough for ya!


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    #858
    Banbridgeman
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    I'll admit I'm very impressed. That was possibly one of the toughest away semi finals in HC history. A Clermont team playing that well, with 30,000 incredibly passionate fans behind them, and yet Leinster probably could have won by 14pts if Kearney had passed to Fitzgerald and Sextons kick went over! But I have a feeling Ulster will win this one. Pienaar is just too good a kicker and I can see the return of Henry at the break down costing Leinster a lot of penalties for Pienaar to kick.


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    #859
    maddness
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    WOW!!!!
    A great day to be an Irish rugby fan.:D


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    #860
    Fishooks12
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    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Was Luke in, though? I remember thinking it didn't look a nailed on try. I only saw the replay once from one angle though.

    Looked a nailed on try if Kearney passed but I think it was a case of him not seeing Luke rather than white line fever


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    #861
    Flincher
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    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Was Luke in, though? I remember thinking it didn't look a nailed on try. I only saw the replay once from one angle though.

    They showed an elevated angle from behind the goals. A fast pass in front of Fitzgerald would probably have put in him. It wasn't a gimme, but I'd have back Fitzgerald to make it.

    In fairness to Kearney, his running game has been unbelievable these last couple of months, and it would have been understandable if he felt more confident taking it on himself instead of throwing a tricky pass.


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    #862
    maddness
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    Banbridgeman wrote: »
    I'll admit I'm very impressed. That was possibly one of the toughest away semi finals in HC history. A Clermont team playing that well, with 30,000 incredibly passionate fans behind them, and yet Leinster probably could have won by 14pts if Kearney had passed to Fitzgerald and Sextons kick went over! But I have a feeling Ulster will win this one. Pienaar is just too good a kicker and I can see the return of Henry at the break down costing Leinster a lot of penalties for Pienaar to kick.

    I hope it stays fine for you.
    Doubt it though ;)


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    #863
    chupacabra
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    Flincher wrote: »
    They showed an elevated angle from behind the goals. A fast pass in front of Fitzgerald would probably have put in him. It wasn't a gimme, but I'd have back Fitzgerald to make it.

    In fairness to Kearney, his running game has been unbelievable these last couple of months, and it would have been understandable if he felt more confident taking it on himself instead of throwing a tricky pass.

    Yeah, it was almost a certain try if he got it out. Rougerie would have made the tackle on Fitz but his momentum would have surely brought him over the line.


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    #864
    GerM
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    Honestly thought Luke would have been bundled into touch if Kearney had given the pass. There was a drift on which Kearney tried to check through. Will have to watch again but think it would have taken an excellent finish from Fitz to get in.


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    #865
    Quint2010
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    http://www.sportsfile.com/id/615715/

    Look where Joe Schmidt was in the last minute!


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    #866
    Judgement Day
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    Banbridgeman wrote: »
    I'll admit I'm very impressed. That was possibly one of the toughest away semi finals in HC history. A Clermont team playing that well, with 30,000 incredibly passionate fans behind them, and yet Leinster probably could have won by 14pts if Kearney had passed to Fitzgerald and Sextons kick went over! But I have a feeling Ulster will win this one. Pienaar is just too good a kicker and I can see the return of Henry at the break down costing Leinster a lot of penalties for Pienaar to kick.

    Really looking forward to the final now but jammy old Ulster, a Home semi and a 'Home' Final. :D You could be right about Pienaar but I think that today was Leinster's potential banana skin and they came out on top - Twickenham could be champagne rugby time for them.


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    #867
    marienbad
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    Move over Pep and Barcelona and make way for Joe and Leinster - the greatest club side of all time from the N.H ?

    Though I and my family are all season ticket holders with Munster we must give credit to a quite astonishing team and coach.


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    #868
    Fishooks12
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    marienbad wrote: »
    Move over Pep and Barcelona and make way for Joe and Leinster - the greatest club side of all time from the N.H ?

    Though I and my family are all season ticket holders with Munster we must give credit to a quite astonishing team and coach.

    If they win the final then yes, without a doubt


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    #869
    Conas
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    http://www.sportsfile.com/id/615715/

    Look where Joe Schmidt was in the last minute!

    Some man!! One of the best rugby coaches, if not the best rugby coach in the world at the moment, and it's hard to believe this is only his second year here. :eek: I mean Chieka did a lot for Leinster don't get me wrong, but this guy Schmidt is a different class. The Leinster team of 2009 was good, but I think it was more down to individual efforts, than it was a team effort. Schmidt has created competition too, Cheika didn't. I don't think we would have won the Heineken Cup last year or have got to the final this year if Cheika was at the helm.


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    #870
    duckysauce
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    highlights of both games on SS2 21:00


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    #871
    funky penguin
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    Tox56 wrote: »
    Clermont fans on their forum surprisingly acceptant of the loss.

    Honestly, that doesn't surprise me. Amazing fans, without a doubt the best I've ever met. They're probably looking forward to the next time we meet. What a game that'll be!


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