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Do private schools have a place in society?

  • 16-04-2012 10:26PM
    #1
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I dont think they do. Im not talking about the cost to the system, I think they promote elitisim, cronyisim and a false sense of entitlement in this society. It gives an unfair advantage to people who usually already are lucky enough to not be born into poverty. I dont get why one persons education should be more important than anothers.


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  • #2
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    I absolutely think they do.

    The second I hear someone went to a private school it explains why they are such a monumental dickhead.


  • #3
    Born to Die
    Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    Watch Billy Bragg on 10 o clock live from last week. Great argument against it in England.


  • #4
    amacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,326 ✭✭✭amacca


    oh jesus not this again.................


  • #5
    cruais
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    I went to a private school. Yes, there were complete pretentious w@nkers in my year, but on the other hand there were lovely girls, who were normal and didn't think they were a step above anyone else.

    I don't think it's unfair to have private and public schooling. It's a choice that's made to send your son / daughter there.

    You will get ****e and fantastic teachers in both schools and it's really up to the individual student to either study or act the maggot. Doesnt matter whether it's public or private.


  • #6
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Because they can pay for it. Things get better the more you pay. If they didn't there would be no need for money. If we got rid of private schools we would be heading towards Communism there.


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  • #7
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I dont think they do. Im not talking about the cost to the system, I think they promote elitisim, cronyisim and a false sense of entitlement in this society. It gives an unfair advantage to people who usually already are lucky enough to not be born into poverty. I dont get why one persons education should be more important than anothers.

    because they pay for it. the point. you missed it.


  • #8
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,383 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    One should never under any circumstance lower one's social standing by putting one's offspring into environment detrimental to their chances of an honest and proper eductaion as a result of having to mix with those unlucky to not have been born into the priviledged echelons of society.


  • #9
    Mickey Dazzler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Mickey Dazzler


    There always has and always will be the haves and the have nots in society. It is naive to think that that will ever change.

    I can assure you that if you came from money you would be more than pleased with the way things work.


  • #10
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    GarIT wrote: »
    Because they can pay for it. Things get better the more you pay. If they didn't there would be no need for money. If we got rid of private schools we would be heading towards Communism there.

    Id rather communism than 'democracy' tbh. I think


  • #11
    General Relativity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭General Relativity


    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    I absolutely think they do.

    The second I hear someone went to a private school it explains why they are such a monumental dickhead.
    Logical Fallacy

    :pac:


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  • #12
    Princess Peach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Of course they have a place! Its simple economics.

    If people are stupid enough to want to pay for some things, people should provide them with it.


  • #13
    Eathrin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    As somebody who goes to a public school, I could not be more delighted that I don't have to suffer listening to spoilt teens that feel they can stroll through life on Daddy's money.
    Let them have their private schools, and let them believe that they are getting a better education.


  • #14
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    One should never under any circumstance lower one's social standing by putting one's offspring into environment detrimental to their chances of an honest and proper eductaion as a result of having to mix with those unlucky to not have been born into the priviledged echelons of society.
    :mad:
    stop plaigarising from the private school manual of life


  • #15
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Yes they do. I don't want my children's education based on the current national curriculum as I don't think it's even remotely a good or rounded education. And I don't want them learning that they should learn for the sake of exams, I want them to learn to love learning for it's own sake. I don't want them learning religion outside of it's place in history and politics. No public schools offer the education I want my children to have so I would either have to home educate or send them to a private Montessori. So we're doing the latter.


  • #16
    Naomi00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Naomi00


    Trenton Oldfield is that you?


  • #17
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    If I had the money I would send my kids to them to enjoy the benefits of cronyism, elitism and a better education and future.


  • #18
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    General Relativity wrote: »
    :pac:

    When posting in AH i normally like my style to reside on the "example" side of things.:D


  • #19
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    GarIT wrote: »
    Because they can pay for it. Things get better the more you pay. If they didn't there would be no need for money. If we got rid of private schools we would be heading towards Communism there.

    I disagree. Quality of education should not depend on how lucky a child is to be born into priveleged circumstances. The child who benifits from private education does not do so because of any merit on his or her part and thus I dont think its a communist principle to say that reward should be based on merit and not luck.


  • #20
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    IM0 wrote: »
    because they pay for it. the point. you missed it.

    I take it if I earn more money than you I should also recieve better medication and or treatment in hospital?


  • #21
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Eathrin wrote: »
    As somebody who goes to a public school, I could not be more delighted that I don't have to suffer listening to spoilt teens that feel they can stroll through life on Daddy's money.
    Let them have their private schools, and let them believe that they are getting a better education.

    Bitter much?

    Have you ever actually visited a private school? Take the chip of your shoulder, t'wil only slow you down in life...


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  • #22
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,993 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I went to a private school. My parents were definitely working class. The fees were minimal so it wasn't an issue. Plus there was an entrance exam to get in. So you couldn't just get in based on how much your parents were willing to pay.


  • #23
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,993 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I take it if I earn more money than you I should also recieve better medication and or treatment in hospital?

    maybe a comfier bed.


  • #24
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Mickey Dazzler wrote: »
    There always has and always will be the haves and the have nots in society. It is naive to think that that will ever change.

    I can assure you that if you came from money you would be more than pleased with the way things work.

    I probraly would however Im in the lucky position to have a career where I can make a lot of money. When I have kids I dont think it should be right to send them to private shcool. I got my degree after public shcool and so can anyone else.


  • #25
    Odats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭Odats


    They have been around for many years and I cannot see them going anytime soon.

    You can be educated in a E20,000 a year boarding school or a state funded school that wouldn't have the best reputation and come out with the same results.

    Private schools are good for the old boys club mentality.


  • #26
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    iguana wrote: »
    Yes they do. I don't want my children's education based on the current national curriculum as I don't think it's even remotely a good or rounded education. And I don't want them learning that they should learn for the sake of exams, I want them to learn to love learning for it's own sake. I don't want them learning religion outside of it's place in history and politics. No public schools offer the education I want my children to have so I would either have to home educate or send them to a private Montessori. So we're doing the latter.

    If I earn more money than you at some point in my life should my extra money entitle my kids (who didnt nothing to earn special treatment) to better healthcare than yours?


  • #27
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I probraly would however Im in the lucky position to have a career where I can make a lot of money. When I have kids I dont think it should be right to send them to private shcool. I got my degree after public shcool and so can anyone else.

    Yeah, but if you had the cash to send your kids to a private school, make connections for life, have better teachers and facilities you'd be an idiot not to I have to say.


  • #28
    Retrovertigo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Retrovertigo


    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    I absolutely think they do.

    The second I hear someone went to a private school it explains why they are such a monumental dickhead.

    Awwwww. Jealous are we? Need a hug?

    I went to both public and private schools and there is an equal amount of dickheads in both.


  • #29
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Grayson wrote: »
    I went to a private school. My parents were definitely working class. The fees were minimal so it wasn't an issue. Plus there was an entrance exam to get in. So you couldn't just get in based on how much your parents were willing to pay.

    True there are a lot of private shcools like that but there are many that are elitest and look at a lot more than entrance exams and fees.


  • #30
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Yeah, but if you had the cash to send your kids to a private school, make connections for life, have better teachers and facilities you'd be an idiot not to I have to say.

    Ive done that without privelige and as a result developed life skills that wouldnt have been afforded to me if I got everything handed to me on a plate.


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  • #31
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Retrovertigo wrote: »
    Awwwww. Jealous are we? Need a hug?

    I went to both public and private schools and there is an equal amount of dickheads in both.

    Nope, not at all. I'm am pulling the piss.

    I think your public/private education failed teaching you to spot hyperbole.


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