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Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 *ALL READ*

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  • #662
    Leiva
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    Des wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Suarez wasn't bought to score goals, he was bought to run around a bit. And annoy opposition fans enough that he becomes a bit of a cult hero to the fans.

    So his lack of goalscoring is ok. Because he's done the second part really well.

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    **cool calming voice . It's getting somewhat tiresome.
    :pac:


  • #663
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    suarez has scored something like 7 goals this season :D people saying he was liverpool's answer to messi.


  • #664
    Leiva
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    Leftist wrote: »
    suarez has scored something like 7 goals this season :D people saying he was liverpool's answer to messi.

    Who might these "people" be ?


  • #665
    monkey9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    The amount of shite posted in this and other threads by Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs is something to behold. The debates and arguements they spend their time on over things that aren't even relevant is kind of funny!

    They remind me a bit of the film Casablanca. It's like as if Liverpool fans are Humphrey Bogart and the Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs start debating as to whether it was right or not to say 'Play it again, Sam'. Pages and pages of drivel and nonsense when really, it should be pointed out to them, that 'Play it again, Sam' was never actually said in the film.

    If you had asked any Liverpool fan after Rafa left would they have wanted Kenny Dalglish as manager, the majority would have said no. I certainly would have, i probably did.

    I didn't want Rafa to go, be careful what you wish for etc etc. But he did. And Roy Hodgson was appointed Liverpool manager. Roy Hodgson!!! Manager of Liverpool!! The Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs defend his appointment vigoursly. They have stats and figures as to why he should have stayed!! They cry out at the horrible treatment he recieved and how the horrible Liverpool fans treated him so badly. Obviously, suffice it to say, that alone is enough evidence that the club was right to turf him out.

    When Kenny was appointed, i was delighted. To wake up that Saturday morning and discover that the face rubber was gone and the King was back was a glorious awakening!! Relief and nostalgia all rolled into one.

    Kenny was only there until the end of the season. Steady the ship as the rubber faced one was supposed to have done. All i wanted Kenny to do was take us away from the relegation zone and back up to the top half of the table. Come the end of the season, he could bow out and let a better manager take over. No drama come the summer. He knew the situation, caretaker manager only.

    But the job he did last season led to him fully deserving his three year contract. Nobody could really have predicted just what a good job he would do. Great football, great results.

    As for this season, his first full one since he came back, it has been a disappointment. Even if we win the FA Cup to go alongside the Carling Cup, which i don't think we will do, but even if we do, i would rate the season as a six out of ten. Winning trophies is well and good, but the league form as been so poor that it definitely takes the shine of those trophies slightly.

    His signings from last summer look really poor. The only hope i have for any of them is Henderson and even that hope stems only from glimpses of positivity.

    I'd give Kenny another season. I think he deserves more than one full season, a season in which he's delivered a trophy to the club. Maybe his signings will come good and improve after having a year to settle in and getting to know what playing for Liverpool is all about. Maybe he'll have learned and make better signings this summer.

    This is not to say however, that should a top manager become available and willing to come to Liverpool, that i'd still want Kenny to stay. But Kenny knows and wants what's best for the club and i have no doubt he would step aside for the good of it should certain situations arise.


  • #666
    Will I Amnt
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    Where did this theory that Suarez wasn't bought to score goals emerge??
    It seems to have appeared around about the time people realised he wasn't scoring that many goals :pac:

    The lad might go on to score 20 odd goals next season and it will be forgotten about.


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  • #667
    counterlock
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    The amount of shite posted in this and other threads by Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs is something to behold.

    :rolleyes:

    An example from the United city game.
    ricero wrote: »
    give city the trophy after the game i say because no team will dislodge them from top spot. once again rooney has a bad game and thus man united have a bad game. city 1st chelsea 2nd man u 3rd mark my words.
    Leiva wrote: »
    Fcuking schooling .
    Great to see .
    Yeeeee haaaaa
    Dcully wrote: »
    Biggest home defeat in prem league and its to the noisey neighbours, comedy gold this
    Leiva wrote: »
    This game is a gift that just keeps on giving .
    Yakult wrote: »
    Bitch slapped!
    monkey9 wrote: »
    Ahahahahaha!!! Sorry, but this is fecking hilarious!!
    They're Manchester City. They'll do what they want!!!
    Leiva wrote: »
    Oh I would 6-1 to be a UTD supporter now
    Wait something wrong with that ...
    Handsome Bob wrote: »
    Unlucky Man U.
    monkey9 wrote: »
    Loving Evra's face in this pic!!Just loving it! I'll leave it at that!!

    And WE are the obsessed ones


  • #668
    Will I Amnt
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    The amount of shite posted in this and other threads by Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs is something to behold. The debates and arguements they spend their time on over things that aren't even relevant is kind of funny!
    So United are flirting with midtable mediocrity with a manager that doesnt know what he's doing and Liverpool are sitting pretty on top of the league.
    Are you saying you wouldn't be twisting the knife???
    It's quite clear you would from what counterlock dug up ;)


  • #669
    Leftist
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    counterlock wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    An example from the United city game.











    And WE are the obsessed ones
    superb post.

    There is no shock in people talking or discussing teams other than that they support. Nothing new.

    Personally I am enjoying liverpool at present.


  • #670
    ~Rebel~
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    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Where did this theory that Suarez wasn't bought to score goals emerge??
    It seems to have appeared around about the time people realised he wasn't scoring that many goals :pac:

    The lad might go on to score 20 odd goals next season and it will be forgotten about.

    Of course he was bought to get goals, but he wasn't bought to be a centre forward (or at least if he was, that would have been a stupid idea). He's always, always played his best, most influential football when he can receive the ball facing goal. Almost all his play at Ajax was of this nature, supporting a more orthodox striker from a wing forward or withdrawn position. Even when he's playing as more of a centre forward for Uruguay, he's still more of a false 9 than the way Liverpool have used him to spearhead the attack at times.

    I think that's backed up by the very fact that we bought Carroll. Suarez compliments a good centre forward and uses the space to score goals, but unfortunately with Carroll's form/lack of playing time, Suarez ends up being the lone threat far too often and doesn't have the space to operate. (and of course there's that stat that he scores way more when Carroll is on the pitch, to back that up too).

    A good partner next year and I think we'll see him add more goals and assists, to go along with his general play.


  • #671
    monkey9
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    counterlock wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    An example from the United city game.











    And WE are the obsessed ones

    That's a match thread!!! A big match thread. People watch football.


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  • #672
    Will I Amnt
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    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Of course he was bought to get goals, but he wasn't bought to be a centre forward (or at least if he was, that would have been a stupid idea). He's always, always played his best, most influential football when he can receive the ball facing goal. Almost all his play at Ajax was of this nature, supporting a more orthodox striker from a wing forward or withdrawn position. Even when he's playing as more of a centre forward for Uruguay, he's still more of a false 9 than the way Liverpool haev used him to spearhead the attack at times.

    I think that's backed up by the very fact that we bought Carroll. Suarez compliments a good centre forward and uses the space to score goals, but unfortunately with Carroll's form/lack of playing time, Suarez ends up being the lone threat far too often and doesn't have the space to operate. (and of course there's that stat that he scores way more when Carroll is on the pitch, to back that up).
    Doesn't excuse his lack of accuracy in front of goal.There's plenty that will tell you he's not a goalscorer and he was only bought as a creator.I'm pretty sure I've seen it being said here a few times.


  • #673
    Red Crow
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    counterlock wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    An example from the United city game.











    And WE are the obsessed ones

    That's a match thread!!! A big match thread. People watch football.

    No that's an obsession with Manchester United. You obsessed man.


  • #674
    counterlock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭counterlock


    monkey9 wrote: »
    That's a match thread!!! A big match thread. People watch football.

    So are we not allowed discuss your teams manager's position?


  • #675
    _blank_
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    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Doesn't excuse his lack of accuracy in front of goal.There's plenty that will tell you he's not a goalscorer and he was only bought as a creator.I'm pretty sure I've seen it being said here a few times.

    how many assists does he have?


  • #676
    monkey9
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    Eli Manning wrote: »
    No that's an obsession with Manchester United. You obsessed man.

    I didn't even mention that club in my post. The fact that someone's response to it was to post up random quotes from a Manc derby is strange!


  • #677
    Will I Amnt
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    That's a match thread!!! A big match thread. People watch football.
    What's the difference?
    It shows exactly how you feel when United are in a bit of a mess and then you have the neck to get up on your high horse about anyone that dares take the mickey out of your precious Liverpool.
    Hypocrite much??


  • #678
    Leiva
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    counterlock wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    An example from the United city game.
    And WE are the obsessed ones

    Football rivalry ?..No way !

    Imagine that .


  • #679
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    I didn't even mention that club in my post. The fact that someone's response to it was to post up random quotes from a Manc derby is strange!

    Quotes that show you gleefully sticking the knife into United when they are getting beaten, and at the time looking a bit down on their luck.

    Now, when United fans are doing the same to a down-and-out Liverpool side, you are having a whinge about it.

    It's double standards from you, but that's ok, all football fans have double standards.


  • #680
    monkey9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    What's the difference?
    It shows exactly how you feel when United are in a bit of a mess and then you have the neck to get up on your high horse about anyone that dares take the mickey out of your precious Liverpool.
    Hypocrite much??

    Nope, not all. People watch football matches. Of course i'll put the boot into other clubs!!!

    But it's when Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs go on and on and on about Liverpool more than any other club, even their own, that i find weird!


  • #681
    ~Rebel~
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    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Doesn't excuse his lack of accuracy in front of goal.There's plenty that will tell you he's not a goalscorer and he was only bought as a creator.I'm pretty sure I've seen it being said here a few times.

    Yeah he definitely needs to bring up his standard of finishing to match that of his Ajax and Uruguay records.

    I think that little bit more space and time he should get afforded with better players around him could make a world of difference though. So often now when he takes his shot, he can only really have half an eye on goal as he's generally completely surrounded since noone else bothers their arse getting into the box.

    As far as this season is concerned, under the circumstances, I'm happy enough with his return of 12 goals and 8 assists in 30 starts (and 2 sub appearances). I expect it to improve, but it's by no means disastrous.


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  • #682
    monkey9
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    Des wrote: »
    Quotes that show you gleefully sticking the knife into United when they are getting beaten, and at the time looking a bit down on their luck.

    Now, when United fans are doing the same to a down-and-out Liverpool side, you are having a whinge about it.

    It's double standards from you, but that's ok, all football fans have double standards.

    Double standards?? I don't go on and on and on about Utd!! I don't care that much about them. I laughed when when they got knocked by Basle etc etc.

    But it's not like i go into Utd threads and continously tell them how irrelevant they are whilst at the same time, defeating my own point!


  • #683
    Will I Amnt
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    Nope, not all. People watch football matches. Of course i'll put the boot into other clubs!!!

    But it's when Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs go on and on and on about Liverpool more than any other club, even their own, that i find weird!
    Well you're obviously not in the position to continually put the boot in but I'm sure you wouldn't hesitate if we went on a long run of bad results.


  • #684
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    Nope, not all. People watch football matches. Of course i'll put the boot into other clubs!!!

    But it's when Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs go on and on and on about Liverpool more than any other club, even their own, that i find weird!

    there's a thread, those same people are posting in other threads.

    It's an interesting topic to many people.

    The manager of a big club, a rival club, is kind of struggling. The club is at a fairly low point of recent times, the manager is fairly popular with the fans, because of the great things he did in the past. for the same reason, he's kind of disliked by rivals. the fact that he's struggling a bit is also a source of mirth.

    It's going to happen, people are going find it funny and post about it.

    It's not obsession, no more than you sticking the knife in is you being obsessed with united.

    You know well that when the shoe is eventually on the other foot, the same thing will be going on here, because if there's one thing certain, United wil eventually slip, you just need to hope it's Liverpool who can take advantage.


  • #685
    monkey9
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    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Well you're obviously not in the position to continually put the boot in but I'm sure you wouldn't hesitate if we went on a long run of bad results.

    Nope, i actually couldn't be arsed reading the Utd thread. I read match threads and i'll post on it. But the obsession other fans have with Liverpool is weird.


  • #686
    Leftist
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    Des wrote: »
    how many assists does he have?


    luis suarez
    2011/12 Barclays Premier League

    goals; 7
    assists; 3
    shots; 107

    :D


  • #687
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    Nope, i actually couldn't be arsed reading the Utd thread. I read match threads and i'll post on it. But the obsession other fans have with Liverpool is weird.

    Again, it's not an "obsession". Liverpool are a big club, that's something we can all agree on.

    their current struggles are interesting, not only to Liverpool fans, but to everyone that watches football. It's not "haters hating" it's not "obsession", it's just what it is.


  • #688
    monkey9
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    Des wrote: »
    there's a thread, those same people are posting in other threads.

    It's an interesting topic to many people.

    The manager of a big club, a rival club, is kind of struggling. The club is at a fairly low point of recent times, the manager is fairly popular with the fans, because of the great things he did in the past. for the same reason, he's kind of disliked by rivals. the fact that he's struggling a bit is also a source of mirth.

    It's going to happen, people are going find it funny and post about it.

    It's not obsession, no more than you sticking the knife in is you being obsessed with united.

    You know well that when the shoe is eventually on the other foot, the same thing will be going on here, because if there's one thing certain, United wil eventually slip, you just need to hope it's Liverpool who can take advantage.

    I'm not talking just about this thread. I'm talking threads in general. Even the real world!! Everyone goes on and on about Liverpool!!

    It's heartwarming!!


  • #689
    Will I Amnt
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    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    MYeah he definitely needs to bring up his standard of finishing to match that of his Ajax and Uruguay records.

    I think that little bit more space and time he should get afforded with better players around him could make a world of difference though. So often now when he takes his shot, he can only really have half an eye on goal as he's generally completely surrounded since noone else bothers their arse getting into the box.

    As far as this season is concerned, under the circumstances, I'm happy enough with his return of 12 goals and 8 assists in 30 starts (and 2 sub appearances). I expect it to improve, but it's by no means disastrous.
    As much as I despise his character in the game there's no doubting he's a quality player.
    I think his perceived role in the team has changed as he's not getting the goals some might have expected.
    I think he still has it in him to be a 20 goal plus forward for Liverpool.
    He's not had a great season in front of goal,just chalk it down as that and not have people making excuses over his role.


  • #690
    Leiva
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    Des wrote: »
    there's a thread, those same people are posting in other threads.

    It's an interesting topic to many people.

    The manager of a big club, a rival club, is kind of struggling. The club is at a fairly low point of recent times, the manager is fairly popular with the fans, because of the great things he did in the past. for the same reason, he's kind of disliked by rivals. the fact that he's struggling a bit is also a source of mirth.

    It's going to happen, people are going find it funny and post about it.

    It's not obsession, no more than you sticking the knife in is you being obsessed with united.

    You know well that when the shoe is eventually on the other foot, the same thing will be going on here, because if there's one thing certain, United wil eventually slip, you just need to hope it's Liverpool who can take advantage.

    I think there is a couple of things going on .


    Everyone takes the piss out of the main rivals . I do and ta fúck if im going to apoligise for it .

    The one thing I found a bit strange but and I commented on , was that on Tuesday Utd had gone 5 points clear and essentially taken the title by the throat , but instead of talking about this really great time a couple of posters were all about Liverpool ??
    I can tell you one thing and maybe its just me but if it was Liverpool I would be full of glee and all over the Liverpool thread glowing about the team , performances to date , and what the future brings - not talking crap and crowing on thread about a struggling rival .

    Again thats just my opinion .


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  • #691
    Will I Amnt
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    Nope, i actually couldn't be arsed reading the Utd thread. I read match threads and i'll post on it. But the obsession other fans have with Liverpool is weird.
    Look man,rivalry is a big part in supporting a team.
    I'm not from Manchester,I don't have City fans in my face every day of the week,I don't have to work with any,listen to any or even see any of them.

    The same can't be said for Liverpool fans,they're the most supported team among my closest friends ffs.
    I have to listen to their shìt and they have to listen to mine.
    Get the f**k over it,it's the way of the world.


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