Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 *ALL READ*

eagle eye wrote: »

You can find a couple of exceptions to the rule in almost anything that suits you. The other winners in the past five years have been Manchester United, Tottenham and Chelsea. They are all good teams, Tottenham have went from strength to strength since they won it, Chelsea won a league title since they won and United of course are the reigning EPL champions.

Chelsea and United were already challanging for the league when they wont it, it didnt turn anything around.


And Spurs, Jesus Christ, they ended up having their worst start to the league in their history and subsequently sacked their manager.

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'll admit that Liverpool are playing some some of the most pleasant football for a long time under Dalglish, I remember the Pool vs Arsenal game and liverpool absolutely dominated but lost 2-1 after playing some very attractive football.

I look at the Liverpool and I dont know what's wrong? Some very good players:

Reina - One of the best keepers in the world.
Johnson - Best english right back and one of the best in England.
Enrique - World class.
Agger - very good but injury prone.
Skrtel - World class.
Henderson - Has a lot of potential.
Lucas - Best DM in the world.
Gerrard - World class.
Downing - Very good professional.
Suarez - Football legend, Children of El Salvador will be singing his name to the ends of dawn.
Carroll - Very good squad player.

So the team is fine, is it a problem with the manager so? which makes me think we should give Dalglish another year to see what he can do.

As a Liverpool fan would have to dis agree with most of this...

Reina has been a great keeper for us but has been a bit off this year,
Johnson has been a decent player for us,
Enrique has shown promise but has shown a few flaws as well,
Agger I would agree,
Skrtel has had a great year but he needs to keep it up now
Henderson has much to prove to justify his transfer
Lucas is beginning to show he is one of the best DM in the world, not there yet.
Gerrard is far from his best, but still an asset to us.
Downing has had 1 or 2 decent performances for us thats it.
Suarez great player but his finishing stats could be better.
Carroll Just has not lived up to expectations, anywhere near.

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'll admit that Liverpool are playing some some of the most pleasant football for a long time under Dalglish, I remember the Pool vs Arsenal game and liverpool absolutely dominated but lost 2-1 after playing some very attractive football.

I look at the Liverpool and I dont know what's wrong? Some very good players:

Reina - One of the best keepers in the world.
Johnson - Best english right back and one of the best in England.
Enrique - World class.
Agger - very good but injury prone.
Skrtel - World class.
Henderson - Has a lot of potential.
Lucas - Best DM in the world.
Gerrard - World class.
Downing - Very good professional.
Suarez - Football legend, Children of El Salvador will be singing his name to the ends of dawn.
Carroll - Very good squad player.

So the team is fine, is it a problem with the manager so? which makes me think we should give Dalglish another year to see what he can do.

Indeed.
Be interesting to see how many fall for it.

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'll admit that Liverpool are playing some some of the most pleasant football for a long time under Dalglish, I remember the Pool vs Arsenal game and liverpool absolutely dominated but lost 2-1 after playing some very attractive football.

I look at the Liverpool and I dont know what's wrong? Some very good players:

Reina - One of the best keepers in the world.
Johnson - Best english right back and one of the best in England.
Enrique - World class.
Agger - very good but injury prone.
Skrtel - World class.
Henderson - Has a lot of potential.
Lucas - Best DM in the world.
Gerrard - World class.
Downing - Very good professional.
Suarez - Football legend, Children of El Salvador will be singing his name to the ends of dawn.
Carroll - Very good squad player.

So the team is fine, is it a problem with the manager so? which makes me think we should give Dalglish another year to see what he can do.

Funniest post i've ever read on boards!!

Apparently Fergie rang Kenny up to offer him some sympathy

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'll admit that Liverpool are playing some some of the most pleasant football for a long time under Dalglish, I remember the Pool vs Arsenal game and liverpool absolutely dominated but lost 2-1 after playing some very attractive football.

I look at the Liverpool and I dont know what's wrong? Some very good players:

Reina - One of the best keepers in the world.
Johnson - Best english right back and one of the best in England.
Enrique - World class.
Agger - very good but injury prone.
Skrtel - World class.
Henderson - Has a lot of potential.
Lucas - Best DM in the world.
Gerrard - World class.
Downing - Very good professional.
Suarez - Football legend, Children of El Salvador will be singing his name to the ends of dawn.
Carroll - Very good squad player.

So the team is fine, is it a problem with the manager so? which makes me think we should give Dalglish another year to see what he can do.

They didn't bite as much as I thought!

Reina - been dodgy enough lately, many said it on the superthtead, was great when Lucas was playing, Reina played the Beckanbaur role!

Johnson actually has been very good.

Enrique was over rated because of the other transfers, I'm in a minority opinion on the superthread. Not a bad signing though.

Henderson - I don't have a clue, I suspect he doesn't either. Tidy footballer and that's about it for £16 Million.

Agger - true, he is very, very good but injury prone.

Skrtel - LOL, He's like an endearing puppy, needs a good trainer, in other words, needs a brains of the operation.

Lucas - well he was supposed to be crap a couple of years ago, now World class, so somewhere in the middle, though further from the crap opinion.

Gerrard - in wrong position, probably due to injuries and lack of alternatives.

Downing - tell him what to do and keep doing it, like Rafa would have.

Otherwise it's a Dougal and Damo run around on the front lawn.

The other 2 are just too obvious, though not enough for some!

K-9 wrote: »

Johnson actually has been very good.

Only one I could nitpick at out of your post but I disagree big time

Don't think you can do well in the EPL these days without a Michael Owen/Alan Shearer/Wayne Rooney/RVP/Peak Torres to get you minimum 20+ league goals a season.

Massive season next season for Suarez to prove he has what it takes to succeed as a top class finisher, which probably demands at least 15 EPL goals.

In terms of Pool buying another striker, why not Carlos Tevez, seems a straightforward buy to me, or else an offer for Balotelli or some other striker whose out of favour with a manager.

I don't think the lack of CL football would bother either of these too much.

plasmaguy wrote: »

Don't think you can do well in the EPL these days without a Michael Owen/Alan Shearer/Wayne Rooney/RVP/Peak Torres to get you minimum 20+ league goals a season.

Massive season next season for Suarez to prove he has what it takes to succeed as a top class finisher, which probably demands at least 15 EPL goals.

In terms of Pool buying another striker, why not Carlos Tevez, seems a straightforward buy to me, or else an offer for Balotelli or some other striker whose out of favour with a manager.

I don't think the lack of CL football would bother either of these too much.

Cant see Tevez coming to Liverpool, and as for Balotelli a definite no for me - what ever about his ability Liverpool have had enough controversy this year without having to babysit that lunatic!!

Morricone wrote: »

Its kind of like robbing Peter to pay Paul. You play to Carroll's stengths and players like Bellamy and Suarez become ineffective. You play to Suarez strengths and Carroll is ineffective.

To play to Carroll you need 2 class wingers like Tonio Valencia and a left footed version of him and an ace set piece taker. Liverpool don't have 1 decent winger never mind 2 class one's and our best set piece taker, Gerrard has been out most of the season.

The player bought in the summer who was renowned for his set pieces has been shíte, almercifully shíte.

Carroll should never have been bought and in order for the club to move forward they may just have to cut their losses.

In fairness to Bellamy, he can suit Carroll or Suarez, he's that technically good and intelligent. Gerrard can suit both as well, hard to know with Shelvey yet.