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Farming Chit Chat

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    Bodacious wrote: »
    Thanks 5live,

    I've never seen it done and have pulled a food few big lads, must look it up.. I would only ever move calving ropes above knee.. I'm not sure where I'd attach the head rope to jack
    You can use an ordinary rope with a knot at one end and tie another knot to suit the length of calf. Just remember to untie the second knot after you are finished as it can be kinda hard to do after a month or so:o. Yup, been there:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    I had to sit a theory test today for the EB licence for towing the cattle trailer. I have the practical now to do. Some crack to pull a trailer I've been pulling for years!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Thanks for replies folks. I'll pen a proper reply tomorrow evening...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    No reply from Mods, I've my new website up and running www.mayosligomart.com

    I'd appreciate any feedback on what farmers would like to see on a website from a mart.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,962 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Karen112 wrote: »
    No reply from Mods, I've my new website up and running www.mayosligomart.com

    I'd appreciate any feedback on what farmers would like to see on a website from a mart.

    Had a quick look, only suggestion would be a calendar of events, eg special sale or pedigree sale, maybe have them in as a drop box for each month? Otherwise it's fine, like the cup a tae on the counter for the boss!

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Had a quick look, only suggestion would be a calendar of events, eg special sale or pedigree sale, maybe have them in as a drop box for each month? Otherwise it's fine, like the cup a tae on the counter for the boss!

    I thought the Sales Catalogue section did that part of it. I draw up a six monthly plnner, next six months will be drawn up within the fortnight:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Karen112 wrote: »
    I thought the Sales Catalogue section did that part of it. I draw up a six monthly plnner, next six months will be drawn up within the fortnight:pac:

    LOL at cup of tae :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Karen112 wrote: »
    No reply from Mods, I've my new website up and running www.mayosligomart.com

    I'd appreciate any feedback on what farmers would like to see on a website from a mart.

    Lot numbers, what was in the lot, and how much it sold for.

    I see on one site the high prices, and having being at some of the sales I know those numbers were plucked from thin air cos they weren't right. I know that cos I was one of them selling and got more € than was put up on site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Grecco


    Had a look, and to be honest its not great in fairness. Are Blacknight hosting the site ? if so why not let them do it (and if they did do it then enough said!!)
    Anyway why not post it here
    for honest and good advise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    johngalway wrote: »
    Lot numbers, what was in the lot, and how much it sold for.

    I see on one site the high prices, and having being at some of the sales I know those numbers were plucked from thin air cos they weren't right. I know that cos I was one of them selling and got more € than was put up on site.

    I use the sales top prices & prices per kilo, then do the sales prices off them. I don't agree with putting prices up, I say as sold.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Grecco wrote: »
    Had a look, and to be honest its not great in fairness. Blacknight are hosting the site for it why not let them do it (and if they did do it then enough said!!)
    Anyway why not post it here
    for honest and good advise

    Sorry, I did ask Mods and got no reply.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Karen112 wrote: »
    Sorry, I did ask Mods and got no reply.

    You didn't ask me? :D;)

    I like the sales reports. It will be a useful resource to point people to when they enquire about cattle prices!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭snowman707


    johngalway wrote: »
    Lot numbers, what was in the lot, and how much it sold for.

    I see on one site the high prices, and having being at some of the sales I know those numbers were plucked from thin air cos they weren't right. I know that cos I was one of them selling and got more € than was put up on site.

    something like this

    http://www.farmersforum.ie/data/marts/ballymahon_mart_cattle_sheep_29_mar_2012_1333094213.pdf

    gives a far better view of the sale


    @ Karen, I am in no way being critical but you asked for opinions & TBH, I think the homepage looks a bit in the past don't know if it's the colour scheme or not,

    I have a very small interest in a company that sell on line and since we updated our website we found we are getting much more interest & enquiries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Bodacious wrote: »
    Some crack to pull a trailer I've been pulling for years!

    Congrats lad. Don't forget about the pushing either ;) Keep that trailer tidy reversing around the corner :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    Saw an odd sight yesterday. In atkins in fermoy they had a brand new four furrow non reversible plough.

    In what situation would someone choose to spend the money on a new conventional plough?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Thanks for the feedback lads, I know something doesn't look right about the homepage, sure that's why I asked ye:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Karen112 wrote: »
    ..I've my new website up and running www.mayosligomart.com ...
    Is this your project, Karen? Best of luck with it.

    One bit of advice is to keep it updated. Very annoying to see a website like this that wasn't updated for a year or so. It always seems dead then.

    As for layout, I'm a big fan of Donedeal. Something very simple and easy about the way it's layed out. I think people prefer picture icons with text too, rather than just text.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Is this your project, Karen? Best of luck with it.

    One bit of advice is to keep it updated. Very annoying to see a website like this that wasn't updated for a year or so. It always seems dead then.

    As for layout, I'm a big fan of Donedeal. Something very simple and easy about the way it's layed out. I think people prefer picture icons with text too, rather than just text.

    Yea it's just a bare bones really at the moment but it's something for me to work on every now and again when I'm free for a bit.

    I'm definitely with you on the simple and easy layout, some (alot) of farmers I meet can barely google.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    Karen112 wrote: »
    Yea it's just a bare bones really at the moment but it's something for me to work on every now and again when I'm free for a bit.

    I'm definitely with you on the simple and easy layout, some (alot) of farmers I meet can barely google.

    Best of luck with it:) We used to run a mart in Fethard Co Tipperary, but closed it in Dec 2008. A mart is a great place to work in. You get to meet all sorts!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Grecco


    Karen112 wrote: »
    Thanks for the feedback lads, I know something doesn't look right about the homepage, sure that's why I asked ye:D

    You`ve made a good start though and its a great project to do. Have a look here at what is possible, and not all that hard to do


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Karen112 wrote: »
    Sorry, I did ask Mods and got no reply.
    reilig wrote: »
    You didn't ask me? :D;)

    Me neither :(


    Well done on the work so far.

    If I may make an observation, some of the images at the top of the pages look distorted.

    As Grecco suggests, there's a lot of good advice and help to be got over in the Software and Web Development > Website Reviews forum.
    I don't know that a site for a livestock mart needs to be on the cutting edge of web design; it'd be very cool if it was though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Bodacious wrote: »
    I'm sorry for your loss, I read your earlier post and when I saw 306 and FL25 I thought you'd have bother he hard enough calved.
    Yeah I know, I'd been watching her like a hawk! She's been on restricted feed though but 3 weeks overdue and FL25 bull calf didn't help!
    Head rope ? For holding the cow is it? Excuse my ignorance if it's for pulling the calf
    The head rope is for around the calves head. It's like a lasso that goes around the back of the ears and the knot tightens in the mouth above the tongue. Have you noticed your calving jack has three hooks on it for holding ropes? The third one is for the head rope. Attach it here with a little less pressure than on the legs. It keeps the head coming with the legs. But before pulling the head out make sure the shoulders coming behind it aren't too wide to come out. I like someone else's suggestion by the journal vet to only loop the rope around the back of the calf's head and pull the two ends, but you'd really want 2 lads then to calf the cow. The head rope is only really to keep the head coming with the legs, rather than "pulling" the head - if you catch my drift.

    At this stage of course you're in the grey area where maybe you should be considering a C section, so it's really only for the more confident guys at calving cows. I lost the gamble on this occassion:(.

    Hindsight of course is a great thing, and I did make a big mistake. The cow kept going down in the sitting position when I'd apply some pressure. This of course is a disaster so let off the jack, let her get up and about the 3rd time she went to go down I got her over on her side. But I didn't get the lower back leg out from under her. I should have had her completely over on her side. I put a rope on that leg and did give a bit of a pull, but I should have made sure to get that leg right out from under her. (I hope the OH doesn't read the next bit). My first born was a borderline C section due to his size and space available to come out. OH has expressly stated natural delivery unless absolutely necessary so consultant obliged. She was prep'ed in the operating theatre and ready for C section before the consultant tried to pull. He explained that he would give one pull to get a feel of the lie of the land. Then he would give a second pull, if nothing was happening on the second pull it was straight to C section. He later credited a mid-wife for the natural delivery as she had said if my OH's pelvis was tilted just a bit more in a certain direction the baby would come - and so it did! (Jeez I shouldn't be telling you all this). But my point is presentation at the time of delivery is v. important when it is a difficult delivery.

    Anyway, I'm posting this in the hope it helps someone else. I love calving cows and never fail to enjoy a healthy newborn hitting the ground. Conversely I take it a bit too much to heart when it goes wrong, and I'm glad to say that is rarely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    whelan1 wrote: »
    sorry for the loss, a neighbour lost their 8 year old son on monday, i was talking to someone this morning and they where saying, we are always giving out about loosing calves etc but when you see what other people have to deal with you just move on, could be worse
    I agree completely whelan1 and I wouldn't have posted except I'd already highlighted I was watching her. Jeez I know there are alot worse things going on and once it's outside the door it's not so bad. I hope it didn't come across as giving out as that wasn't the intention, I was just relaying an event as it happened. I had hoped to be posting a picture of my brand new fantastic calf! I have no doubt as to who is responsible for the loss of the calf - me. It's only human that I'd mull over it and look for the lessons to learn from it. If I can, don't want it to happen again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    pakalasa wrote: »
    On the head rope - the Vet that writes for Journal was saying that he uses an ordinary rope just going back over the head, behind the ears, with both ends loose. He just pulls then on both ends together.
    Agree that not that much pressure should be put on the head, but he must also have someone on the jack as well? Maybe not.
    Just wondering how did you do the CPR? I revived a calf 2 wks ago by blowing up a nostril with the mouth held close and the other nostril covered. Inflate the lungs then and allow to deflate with slight pressure on the side. I got a heartbeat first and then one breath. I was just chancing my arm really, but it worked. I know there are risks etc with Lepto and all that.
    I wasn't that optimistic to be honest as the eye looked poor if you know what I mean. For humans it's 15 chest compressions followed by 2 deep breaths if doing it by yourself, so that's what I did. I closed the mouth, blocked one nostril and blew in the other nostril - same as what you did. You can see the chest inflate and then deflate. I've had one before come back after 5-10 minutes but I was never too optimistic about this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    do you ever hang the calf over a gate? i appreciate the weight of the calf can be a factor, but i have done it a few times before and it got rid of alot of that fluid that they get caught up with, also a piece of straw up the nose or water in the ear can help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Karen112 wrote: »
    No reply from Mods, I've my new website up and running www.mayosligomart.com

    I'd appreciate any feedback on what farmers would like to see on a website from a mart.

    Fair duece Karen, you're taking the critical feedback on the chin!;). First can I say it's very good - is this your first attempt at putting together a website?

    Alot of good points already so just to add my thoughts! Who are you targeting with this website? Not your regulars as they'll keep coming, so new or infrequent buyers/ sellers that use other marts. What do they want when they visit it? I don't know your mart so a few things spring to mind for me - do you sell only beef or do you sell dairy stock as well? Do you sell cows? How does your booking system work? Add in a picture of the digital display you have over the selling pen (I'm sure you have one;)). I like the way you've the map on the bottom - good touch.

    Best of luck with it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    whelan1 wrote: »
    do you ever hang the calf over a gate? i appreciate the weight of the calf can be a factor, but i have done it a few times before and it got rid of alot of that fluid that they get caught up with, also a piece of straw up the nose or water in the ear can help
    Yeah those things help and have done them. This calf was dead on arrival though, not just failing to take a breath. I did get him so he's head was lower than his body but not hanging on the gate. That in particular I think is helpful. I just got going with the CPR and when I felt the heart responding to it I kept going at what I was at.

    You win some, you lose some!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    has anyone heard of turning a cow on her back when in difficulty calving? it was an old woman who told me who knows stock pretty well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    just do it wrote: »
    Fair duece Karen, you're taking the critical feedback on the chin!;). First can I say it's very good - is this your first attempt at putting together a website?

    Alot of good points already so just to add my thoughts! Who are you targeting with this website? Not your regulars as they'll keep coming, so new or infrequent buyers/ sellers that use other marts. What do they want when they visit it? I don't know your mart so a few things spring to mind for me - do you sell only beef or do you sell dairy stock as well? Do you sell cows? How does your booking system work? Add in a picture of the digital display you have over the selling pen (I'm sure you have one;)). I like the way you've the map on the bottom - good touch.

    Best of luck with it!

    Very first attempt!:o It's more so for the adverts that we put in the journal etc so I can see why it would be a good idea to put numbers of stock in etc. Problem is that our sales are Monday & Tuesday so numbers wouldn't be high then.
    We do a mixture of all stock, had a Dairy sale there recently and some made over 2k. Booking system is a strange one, I've to fix that yet...
    I've a Bull Sale Saturday so loads more stuff will be added in. As I've said, it's just new up. I'm thinking about pics like this on the sides- http://www.agriimages.co.uk/blog/
    as it would take out the blank spaces. Better than no website for the moment to be honest!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    KAREN
    you should organise a boards day down there with special discounts on all stock:D


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