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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*

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    #212
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    Whatever - we've passed the magic million mark. Time to let go of the CAPITALISATION.

    Where is the 1 million figure reported?


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    #213
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    hondasam wrote: »
    No I don't doubt it but was not aware they could take fines from your wages.
    why the need for new legislation if it's in place all ready :confused:
    Revenue have powers that weren't available to other agencies - nothing too unusual there.

    If anything is unusual, its the fact that it is taking up to now to introduce this sensible measure to normal fines.


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    #214
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    So your owed €110 and someone posts you €100 you return the cheque. Are you sure your working the private sector? LOL

    If I get an incomplete payment, I'd sort it out sharpish - I certainly don't negotiate after invoicing.


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    #215
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Ghandee wrote: »
    I would say that Ireland will invade Germany by the end of the week.

    Doesnt mean sh1t though, sorry to be blunt.

    It means Magicsean is better at predicting the future than you.


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    #216
    MisterEpicurus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MisterEpicurus


    Look, however annoying, just pay it...


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    #217
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    dvpower wrote: »
    Revenue have powers that weren't available to other agencies - nothing too unusual there.

    If anything is unusual, its the fact that it is taking up to now to introduce this sensible measure to normal fines.

    Do revenue have the power to chase you on a household charge as it is not a household tax?

    Genuine question.


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    #218
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    If I get an incomplete payment, I'd sort it out sharpish - I certainly don't negotiate after invoicing.

    €10 really? Are you sure your in the private sector and working in 2012?


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    #219
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Paddy, I hope they throw away the key.....:D

    They wont need a key, dangerous criminals like paddy are put in open prison.


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    #220
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Where is the 1 million figure reported?

    less that a million now have to pay - it's not exactly newsworthy info.


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    #221
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    dvpower wrote: »
    Revenue have powers that weren't available to other agencies - nothing too unusual there.

    If anything is unusual, its the fact that it is taking up to now to introduce this sensible measure to normal fines.

    You are saying Revenue could only take tax fines? They could not deduct just any fine, is this correct?


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    #222
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    Revenue have powers that weren't available to other agencies - nothing too unusual there.

    If anything is unusual, its the fact that it is taking up to now to introduce this sensible measure to normal fines.

    I wonder how much in 'normal fines' isn't collected each year?


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    #223
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    black francis wrote: »
    It means Magicsean is better at predicting the future than you.

    My daddys stronger than your daddy Francis.:rolleyes:


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    #224
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    €10 really? Are you sure your in the private sector and working in 2012?

    On the basis of principle - of course not.


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    #225
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    They wont need a key, dangerous criminals like paddy are put in open prison.


    Yep,its true.

    Im so dangerious that no prison cell can hold me......;):D (think about it).


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    #226
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Do revenue have the power to chase you on a household charge as it is not a household tax?

    Genuine question.

    I don't think so. I think Dvpower is trying to confuse us.

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=can%20fines%20be%20taken%20form%20wages%20ire&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CFoQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnewspaper%2Fireland%2F2012%2F0308%2F1224313004730.html&ei=I2N3T-DRBYyzhAeVwO2ODQ&usg=AFQjCNHZUg2tsuO55p-ZxOzSwMaJbZz6Yw

    See this, not implemented yet.


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    #227
    barrackali
    Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    So much for a majority not paying the charge...what a laugh. Many of the people who followed idiots like Clare Daly will be running down to pay the charge over the coming weeks/months. Property taxes are a way of life in other countries....get used to it. There is no way the government are going to forget about this charge, there will be no back down. I can't wait to hear people ringing in on Joe Duffy when they start deducting the charge from their incomes.


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    #228
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    alastair wrote: »
    less that a million now have to pay - it's not exactly newsworthy info.


    Oh but it is,if you comment on it...terminator.


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    #229
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    MagicSean wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure you know what happens to someone who doesn't pay a court fine. Penal warrant followed by three hots and a pot. That's just the fine. There is still the original charge pluse interest and penalty. They will likely deduct this at source for social welfare and public sector employees and through tax credits for everyone else. And I've no doubt that they will use the level of non payment as an excuse for some more cuts in the next budget.

    That will not help their cause one iota. It will just turn more people against them and lead to a bitter campaign where the people will eventually turn against them and protests will occur.
    Attacking the ownership of a man's home is not the way.
    I know most of you Public Servants have to pay because you fear the consequences but the rest of us will fight this.


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    #230
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    barrackali wrote: »
    So much for a majority not paying the charge...what a laugh. Many of the people who followed idiots like Clare Daly will be running down to pay the charge over the coming weeks/months. Property taxes are a way of life in other countries....get used to it. There is no way the government are going to forget about this charge, there will be no back down. I can't wait to hear people ringing in on Joe Duffy when they start deducting the charge from their incomes.

    Wonder will Ray Darcy pay the fines for all his listeners, who he urged to send the money to Crumlin Hospital instead!


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    #231
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    black francis wrote: »
    Wonder will Ray Darcy pay the fines for all his listeners, who he urged to send the money to Crumlin Hospital instead!


    Crumlin Hospital actually NEEDS the money to help save childrens lives.



    But you would rather line Endas pockets than save a childs life.

    You have a heart of gold..


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    #232
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    barrackali wrote: »
    So much for a majority not paying the charge...what a laugh. Many of the people who followed idiots like Clare Daly will be running down to pay the charge over the coming weeks/months. Property taxes are a way of life in other countries....get used to it. There is no way the government are going to forget about this charge, there will be no back down. I can't wait to hear people ringing in on Joe Duffy when they start deducting the charge from their incomes.

    Blah, blah, blah. Majority didn't pay. Get over it.


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    #233
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    hondasam wrote: »
    I don't think so. I think Dvpower is trying to confuse us.

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=can%20fines%20be%20taken%20form%20wages%20ire&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CFoQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnewspaper%2Fireland%2F2012%2F0308%2F1224313004730.html&ei=I2N3T-DRBYyzhAeVwO2ODQ&usg=AFQjCNHZUg2tsuO55p-ZxOzSwMaJbZz6Yw

    See this, not implemented yet.

    Hence why he hasnt ansered the last two questions I put to him.


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    #234
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    200,000 homes have gone missing. LOL

    Mine is one of them ha ha


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    #235
    Le_Dieux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Le_Dieux


    thebostoncrab wrote: »
    The website is the buisiest tonight it has ever been, there are huge numbers registering for the charge. Before midnight you're looking at almost 800,000 at this rate.

    And there will be no extension period. Come midnight it's a fine for late pay, simple as.

    I don't care. For a 'man' to make the patriotic reference statement he did on tv tonight, is an abomination. I'm no less patriotic by not paying this HT as the bloke who has paid it.


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    #236
    barrackali
    Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    squod wrote: »
    Blah, blah, blah. Majority didn't pay. Get over it.


    Have you not seen the latest stats????? I think you need to do some research.


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    #237
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Crumlin Hospital actually NEEDS the money to help save childrens lives.

    That's hardly my point now Paddy, though I suspect you know this already.


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    #238
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    less that a million now have to pay - it's not exactly newsworthy info.

    But you said 1 million had paid. Are you now backtracking?


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    #239
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    barrackali wrote: »
    I can't wait to hear people ringing in on Joe Duffy when they start deducting the charge from their incomes.

    God, you must have a really sad life!


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    #240
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    paddy147 wrote: »

    But you would rather line Endas pockets than save a childs life.

    You have a heart of gold..

    :rolleyes:


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    #241
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Do revenue have the power to chase you on a household charge as it is not a household tax?

    Genuine question.
    No. The Revenue have no part to play in this at all (apart from sharing databases).
    My only reason for introducing the Revenue is as an example of where attachment orders are routine.


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