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leg wax · 16-03-2012 10:15AM

whelan1 wrote: »

had a dry cow calved in the cubicle shed , decided iwould leave them there til the end of milking, calf was gone, no sign at all.... fecker got under the gate and went with the milkers , who are in the furthest field away:o anyways he's back now and fast asleep

follow the boobs :P

royaler83 · 16-03-2012 11:50AM

Muckit wrote: »

Let a batch of weanling heifers out yesterday evening. Had them in a well fenced gathering area for about an hour until they had let off steam. They got a few rattles of the mains (nice snap off it ) so I felt they were ready for the field I wanted to put them in :rolleyes: .... but oh no... two of them decided they liked the other side of the fence more... and the rest followed!

Now they were still on our own land and nobody died, but there's nothing that boils my blood more than cattle breaking through elec fence! :mad: :mad: :mad:

They would need more than an hour to settle, at least a day and a night imo, they can be a nightmare. Also morning would be better time to move them, they'l have more chance to get their bearings before dark

pakalasa · 16-03-2012 12:52PM

Less likely to get pneumonia too when let out early.

blue5000 · 16-03-2012 01:42PM

Can't do the tune but

'Oh it's such a perfect day'

For registering calves online:)

lakill Farm · 16-03-2012 02:55PM

Bizzum wrote: »

Are you thinking of selling a trailer?:D

No :rolleyes:.

But id be interested in advertising a bit of accountancy work for farmers.

Special price boss

redzerologhlen · 17-03-2012 12:34PM

Whats the story regarding the new rules for tb testing where if you are bounding someone who has 2 or more reactors that your herd is automatically restricted until you have a clear test. The auld lad is bulling because we are bounding 17 different people. Is it just proposed or is it in already?

whelan1 · 17-03-2012 12:38PM

vet was telling us aload of stuff that is proposed, seems mad.... also you are not supposed to treat animals when testing, like sometimes we would lepto etc when testing, this is not allowed, only on welfare grounds can you treat them at test- if its a life or death situation

snowman707 · 17-03-2012 01:01PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Whats the story regarding the new rules for tb testing where if you are bounding someone who has 2 or more reactors that your herd is automatically restricted until you have a clear test. The auld lad is bulling because we are bounding 17 different people. Is it just proposed or is it in already?

you cannot be restricted unless you have reactors or if you sold stock recently that subsequently went down, or killed out with lesions

however the dept may decide to spot test you and in this case if you have an inclusive animal then you are automatically locked if you are bounding a restricted herd

different dvo's and indeed different dept vets within a dvo interpretive the rules differently

redzerologhlen · 17-03-2012 01:11PM

snowman707 wrote: »

you cannot be restricted unless you have reactors or if you sold stock recently that subsequently went down, or killed out with lesions

however the dept may decide to spot test you and in this case if you have an inclusive animal then you are automatically locked if you are bounding a restricted herd

different dvo's and indeed different dept vets within a dvo interpretive the rules differently

It was always that way around here snowman. Thats what I read in this weeks journal, on page 9.

redzerologhlen · 18-03-2012 10:13AM

Had this monster yesterday :rolleyes:

He must be a good bit premature because he is tiny and the cow never sprung, not a tint of milk, anything I can do to get her to come into it?

whelan1 · 18-03-2012 10:19AM

some dairy nuts and good grass

redzerologhlen · 18-03-2012 10:36AM

whelan1 wrote: »

some dairy nuts and good grass

There wont be grass here for a while yet whelan!! Gave her about 4kg today and yesterday and shes getting 2kg with the last couple of months.

Finno59 · 19-03-2012 12:45PM

Do i have to become a member of the ihfa to register an animal?

whelan1 · 19-03-2012 01:32PM

Finno59 wrote: »

Do i have to become a member of the ihfa to register an animal?

i would reckon so, give them a ring

sea12 · 19-03-2012 05:48PM

Went to bring in the ewes today for lambing. There due in about 10 days time. Hogget lambed last night but lost the lamb. Lamb was small but fully formed. Bad start. Wouldn't mind but if it was tonight at least the lamb but have been in and would have had a chance.

Hopefully it gets better from here on in!

Cran · 19-03-2012 06:02PM

sea12 wrote: »

Went to bring in the ewes today for lambing. There due in about 10 days time. Hogget lambed last night but lost the lamb. Lamb was small but fully formed. Bad start. Wouldn't mind but if it was tonight at least the lamb but have been in and would have had a chance.

Hopefully it gets better from here on in!

Always starts bad, that's what I tell myself each year. Keep the chin up as problems usually come early, doubt would have had a chance 10 days early.

Had two prolapsed here Friday first in 3 years don't think 1 is going to make it. 2 lambed today 4 lambs hope they don't really get going until sat/sun as not off work till then. Theyre due Saturday usually don't get really going till couple of days later!!!:eek:

johngalway · 19-03-2012 07:13PM

In a typical year I've always found the problems come early, then it gets a lot better quickly, just part of the job IMO.

pakalasa · 19-03-2012 09:09PM

Had a really bad night last night calving. Cow and heifer calving together. Cow calved ok but calf would not drink even though full of life. Had to stomach tube him.
Had to use jack on heifer, heavy pull. Got calf out but had to rescusitate him. Got a heartbeat first and then one heavy breath. Heifer wouldn't get up then. She went beserk then and I had to tie her down with halter, to get calf away. Had to take beastings then from cow and tube heifers calf. What a night. At least all still alive.

Bizzum · 19-03-2012 09:24PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Had a really bad night last night calving. Cow and heifer calving together. Cow calved ok but calf would not drink even though full of life. Had to stomach tube him.
Had to use jack on heifer, heavy pull. Got calf out but had to rescusitate him. Got a heartbeat first and then one heavy breath. Heifer wouldn't get up then. She went beserk then and I had to tie her down with halter, to get calf away. Had to take beastings then from cow and tube heifers calf. What a night. At least all still alive.

Big ordeal on a heifer this calving lark! If you can get a day or two behind them you'll be flying.

just do it · 19-03-2012 11:00PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Had a really bad night last night calving. Cow and heifer calving together. Cow calved ok but calf would not drink even though full of life. Had to stomach tube him.
Had to use jack on heifer, heavy pull. Got calf out but had to rescusitate him. Got a heartbeat first and then one heavy breath. Heifer wouldn't get up then. She went beserk then and I had to tie her down with halter, to get calf away. Had to take beastings then from cow and tube heifers calf. What a night. At least all still alive.

Well done, Pak - sounds like you'll get a result out of a bad night i.e. 2 cows and calves. Fingers crossed.

How's the heifer now? Has she gotten up and settled down?

whelan1 · 20-03-2012 09:20AM

fantastic day here, you can nearly feel the growth

pakalasa · 20-03-2012 11:35AM

just do it wrote: »

Well done, Pak - sounds like you'll get a result out of a bad night i.e. 2 cows and calves. Fingers crossed.

How's the heifer now? Has she gotten up and settled down?

Oh, she's up alright. Doing her best to get me. I have a halter on her, so when she comes for me over the gate, I can grab it and tie her up. Never realsied till now how handy the halters can be. Calf is getting stronger, trying to stand but still too weak. I milked the heifer and tubed the calf this morning. BTW, this bull calf is by NHL and the mother is 3 year old HKG from a big red lim I had. I should have used FL22 on her, like the other heifers. But she was a lot older than the rest when I AI'd them.

whelan1 · 20-03-2012 11:49AM

had a pb aa cow that was forcing alot last week, handled her but she was very tight, got vet , she said she wasnt ready to calve... settled down over the weekend and we said that we would let her back down to the rest of the cows this morning, when we got there she had a set of angus twin bulls beside her:eek: she calved last year on may 31! so she didnt waste any time.... these are the moments that make farming worthwhile:)

whelan1 · 20-03-2012 09:15PM

things not going great, cow knocking the crap out of both twins- suckling is not easy:cool: left them seperated for the night, she will let them drink but can beat the crap out of them with her head.... patience

Richk2012 · 20-03-2012 09:24PM

Lambing started today to a wretched start :mad: . Ive 8 triplet ewes who have been kept seperate from twins and singles are seperate again from both. The triplets , like the twins are been fed 18% nuts twice daily but bigger amounts and very limited access to haylage.
Despite this , four of these eight triplet ewes have prolapsed on me over the last two weeks , along with two twins . As frustrating as this is all the ewes are doing fine with save-ewes inserted in them and two being stitched .
However I fed twins and triplets this morning at 7.30 paying extra attention for lambs or indeed lamb-beds as their due date is tomorrow. Everything fine at that time .
I returned to the yard at 12 o clock to find possibly the best strongest triplet ewe (who had no prolapse or any other proplems) stretched out gasping in pain. I walk behind her to see she has pushed out most of her insides . Intestines , Kidneys all lay on the ground . I ran and fetched the gun and a sharp blade . All three lambs dead when i got them out .
Why has this happened , Iv heard of it but never dealt with it before?????

just do it · 20-03-2012 09:30PM

Richk2012 wrote: »

Lambing started today to a wretched start :mad: . Ive 8 triplet ewes who have been kept seperate from twins and singles are seperate again from both. The triplets , like the twins are been fed 18% nuts twice daily but bigger amounts and very limited access to haylage.
Despite this , four of these eight triplet ewes have prolapsed on me over the last two weeks , along with two twins . As frustrating as this is all the ewes are doing fine with save-ewes inserted in them and two being stitched .
However I fed twins and triplets this morning at 7.30 paying extra attention for lambs or indeed lamb-beds as their due date is tomorrow. Everything fine at that time .
I returned to the yard at 12 o clock to find possibly the best strongest triplet ewe (who had no prolapse or any other proplems) stretched out gasping in pain. I walk behind her to see she has pushed out most of her insides . Intestines , Kidneys all lay on the ground . I ran and fetched the gun and a sharp blade . All three lambs dead when i got them out .
Why has this happened , Iv heard of it but never dealt with it before?????

I'd hazard a guess that when she started pushing a lamb was presented the wrong way and a leg went through the uterus. Now a bit of intestine slipped into the hole and a few more pushes and the whole lot came tumbling out. Not a pretty sight and even if you were with her it possibly was just as likely to happen. Just one of those things.

blue5000 · 20-03-2012 09:30PM

Richk2012 wrote: »

Lambing started today to a wretched start :mad: . Ive 8 triplet ewes who have been kept seperate from twins and singles are seperate again from both. The triplets , like the twins are been fed 18% nuts twice daily but bigger amounts and very limited access to haylage.
Despite this , four of these eight triplet ewes have prolapsed on me over the last two weeks , along with two twins . As frustrating as this is all the ewes are doing fine with save-ewes inserted in them and two being stitched .
However I fed twins and triplets this morning at 7.30 paying extra attention for lambs or indeed lamb-beds as their due date is tomorrow. Everything fine at that time .
I returned to the yard at 12 o clock to find possibly the best strongest triplet ewe (who had no prolapse or any other proplems) stretched out gasping in pain. I walk behind her to see she has pushed out most of her insides . Intestines , Kidneys all lay on the ground . I ran and fetched the gun and a sharp blade . All three lambs dead when i got them out .
Why has this happened , Iv heard of it but never dealt with it before?????

sh1t, and I thought I was having a bad day, sorry I've no answer, but could there be too much or not enough fibre in their diet, sorry I know sfa about sheep.

Richk2012 · 20-03-2012 09:40PM

just do it wrote: »

I'd hazard a guess that when she started pushing a lamb was presented the wrong way and a leg went through the uterus. Now a bit of intestine slipped into the hole and a few more pushes and the whole lot came tumbling out. Not a pretty sight and even if you were with her it possibly was just as likely to happen. Just one of those things.

Yea sounds a reasonable explanation . At least i put the poor lady out of her misery and she wasnt left linger on . Suppose as the saying goes "as long as you have livestock you'l have deadstock"

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rancher · 20-03-2012 10:27PM

Richk2012 wrote: »

Lambing started today to a wretched start :mad: . Ive 8 triplet ewes who have been kept seperate from twins and singles are seperate again from both. The triplets , like the twins are been fed 18% nuts twice daily but bigger amounts and very limited access to haylage.
Despite this , four of these eight triplet ewes have prolapsed on me over the last two weeks , along with two twins . As frustrating as this is all the ewes are doing fine with save-ewes inserted in them and two being stitched .
However I fed twins and triplets this morning at 7.30 paying extra attention for lambs or indeed lamb-beds as their due date is tomorrow. Everything fine at that time .
I returned to the yard at 12 o clock to find possibly the best strongest triplet ewe (who had no prolapse or any other proplems) stretched out gasping in pain. I walk behind her to see she has pushed out most of her insides . Intestines , Kidneys all lay on the ground . I ran and fetched the gun and a sharp blade . All three lambs dead when i got them out .
Why has this happened , Iv heard of it but never dealt with it before?????

Was she a texel by any chance? They seem prone to that, don't think it has anything to do with lambing. I get one or two like that every year, I'm having a lot of trouble too this year with ordinary prolapses, I use the harnesses as well and then take out the internal retainer after 24 to 48 hrs.I find the internal one causes infections and irritation making them force whereas you can leave the harness on for weeks if you have to, these are just my observations.....not really veterinary advice

porter shark · 21-03-2012 12:03AM

problems here with scouring calves. its always the same this time of the year, i'm forever asking advice... this year two of the farmers i would look up to have advised me to dose back the mouth, one reccommends 5mls of fromamycin or marbocyl and the other swears by 20mls of penicillin.
has anyone here given eitherof these to calves orally?

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