HELP!!

Marcus95 · 26-01-2012 6:42pm #1

Hi, im 15 last may i weighed 16 stone and was 5 foot 5.
Im now 14 stone and 6 foot i have a body fat of 21% it was 46%.
Im lookin to lose more bady fat and gain muscle. I play gaa,and train 3 times a week one sprinting session,one spin class and then a farely intensive football or hurling session i also do weight trainin twice a week.
Im looking for a diet that will steadily help me drop some body fat and gain muscle.
Appreciate any help !

In a normal day i would eat; breakfast: bran flakes
lunch: chicken lettuce and cheese sandwhich
dinner : would vary but potatoes often and veg and a meat
i would snack on chocalate covered ricecakes and a nature valley bar and fruit????

Compared to most people my age i eat very well, I rarely eat any junk food maybe once a week. ive just seemed to hit a plateau and cant lose any more but i have been gaining muscle, i feel my lower body is well defined but my upper is chubby ????

Punchy1969 · 26-01-2012 6:50pm

Hi,
Your diet sounds good but cut out the snacking in the evening. Get into the habit of not eating anything after your dinner in the evening. The next food to go in your mouth should be breakfast the next morning.
For good upper body training give boxing a go. Find a club near your area and you'll find skipping and bag work (punchbag) a great workout. You'll drop pounds and tone your chest shoulders and torso.
I like to swim once or twice a week too, great. Best of luck, you're doing a great job by the sounds of things.

link_2007 · 26-01-2012 6:50pm

You've grown 7 inches in 8 months?

Marcus95 · 27-01-2012 8:12am

Will look into the boxing thanks a lot.
Can you tell me what that last comment is about ?

link_2007 · 27-01-2012 9:01am

Marcus95 wrote: »

Will look into the boxing thanks a lot.
Can you tell me what that last comment is about ?

Hi Marcus, maybe I am reading it wrong but my understanding was you turned 15 last May and you were 5ft 5 and weighed 16stone. And now you're 6ft and 14stone?

BlueIsland · 27-01-2012 9:31am

Marcus95 wrote: »

Hi, im 15 last may i weighed 16 stone and was 5 foot 5.
Im now 14 stone and 6 foot i have a body fat of 21% it was 46%.
Im lookin to lose more bady fat and gain muscle. I play gaa,and train 3 times a week one sprinting session,one spin class and then a farely intensive football or hurling session i also do weight trainin twice a week.
Im looking for a diet that will steadily help me drop some body fat and gain muscle.
Appreciate any help !

In a normal day i would eat; breakfast: bran flakes
lunch: chicken lettuce and cheese sandwhich
dinner : would vary but potatoes often and veg and a meat
i would snack on chocalate covered ricecakes and a nature valley bar and fruit????

Compared to most people my age i eat very well, I rarely eat any junk food maybe once a week. ive just seemed to hit a plateau and cant lose any more but i have been gaining muscle, i feel my lower body is well defined but my upper is chubby ????

Your main problems are in bold. No point in comparing yourself to other people's diet apart from comforting yourself.

-Work out maintenance calories,take awy 500 to loose weight.Or multiply weight in pounds by 14.

-You are eating far too much carbohydrate.sugar from poor sources (wheat primarily). ditch bran flakes- eat eggs.ditch sandwich- eat a bed of lettuce and salads. ditch potatoes- eat more veg or sweet potato. ditch the present snacks- snack on nuts and keep fruit.

- eat a gram of protein for every pound you weigh. chicken, eggs, bacon, steak, salmon, tuna etc etc.

- post your weights programme and people on here will help improve it. BUT its your diet where most improvement will be seen.

xgtdec · 27-01-2012 10:02am

Punchy1969 wrote: »

Hi,
Your diet sounds good but cut out the snacking in the evening. Get into the habit of not eating anything after your dinner in the evening. The next food to go in your mouth should be breakfast the next morning.

you have without any doubt got to be taking the p*iss

bran flakes
bread
chocolate rice cakes
nature valley bars

this is a good diet????

dont eat after your dinner.....seriously????

listen its not often i do this but if you have no clue what your talking about please dont advise anybody even if they did ask!!!

Hanley · 27-01-2012 10:07am

xgtdec wrote: »

you have without any doubt got to be taking the p*iss

bran flakes
bread
chocolate rice cakes
nature valley bars

this is a good diet????

dont eat after your dinner.....seriously????

listen its not often i do this but if you have no clue what your talking about please dont advise anybody even if they did ask!!!

Jesus christ the kid is f*cking 16 years old.

People need to get off the internet and start living in real life.

For a dude his age, it is good. Is it perfect, of course bloody not.

My god. I'm horrified at this.

xgtdec · 27-01-2012 10:15am

""Im lookin to lose more bady fat and gain muscle. I play gaa,and train 3 times a week one sprinting session,one spin class and then a farely intensive football or hurling session i also do weight trainin twice a week.""

but because your 16 its ok to have a ****ty diet while also having training goals??

what ever way you want to look at it its a **** diet and it was **** advice regadless of the op's age

and if this is all it takes to horrify you...i think its you that needs a trip to "real life"

Hanley · 27-01-2012 10:16am

I’ll even expand a bit. You guys heard of Dan John? One of the most respected “real world” coaches in the US? Works with a lot of high school kids?! Know what his dietary prescriptions to that population are?

1) Eat 3 meals a day
2) Eat protein at every meal
3) If you’re hungry 1-2 hours after your meal, eat more protein next time
4) If you’re sleepy an hour after your meal, look at the quality of the carbs you’re eating

Seriously people, real world. Please.

Lets avoid giving the next generation complexes about their food yah?

Hanley · 27-01-2012 10:20am

xgtdec wrote: »

""Im lookin to lose more bady fat and gain muscle. I play gaa,and train 3 times a week one sprinting session,one spin class and then a farely intensive football or hurling session i also do weight trainin twice a week.""

but because your 16 its ok to have a ****ty diet while also having training goals??

what ever way you want to look at it its a **** diet and it was **** advice regadless of the op's age

and if this is all it takes to horrify you...i think its you that needs a trip to "real life"

Ok. You're right.

Rather than pragmatic advice the OP might actually use, lets all prove how much we know by going for ideals.

This place is like a circle jerk at times. People care far more about showing everyone what they know and beating up others than they do about actually being helpful.

xgtdec · 27-01-2012 10:26am

Hanley wrote: »

Ok. You're right.

I know i am

Hanley wrote: »

Rather than pragmatic advice the OP might actually use, lets all prove how much we know by going for ideals.

who went for ideals?? The only think i claimed to know was that the advice given wasnt good advice

Hanley wrote: »

This place is like a circle jerk at times. People care far more about showing everyone what they know and beating up others than they do about actually being helpful.

Well if i have got it to that kids head that bran flakes and chocolate covered rice cakes are not the way to reach the golas that he's stated then its one of the most help things he's going to hear this year!

Spunge · 27-01-2012 10:53am

jaysus, its just a bit of bread.

Inspector Coptoor · 27-01-2012 11:04am

For a lad of 16, he can get away with a high carb diet.

The only thing that would concern me is that I don't think there's enough protein in there.

Try scrambled egg on toast the odd morning.

Bran flakes aren't the worst cereal out there.

Being some nuts like cashews or almonds with you to school, or bring a fork & the small tins of tuna that are easy to open with the ring on them.

Maybe Try to change one thing at a time. So instead of your current snack of rice cakes, have nuts or tuna.

BlueIsland · 27-01-2012 11:36am

Hanley wrote: »

Ok. You're right.

Rather than pragmatic advice the OP might actually use, lets all prove how much we know by going for ideals.

This place is like a circle jerk at times. People care far more about showing everyone what they know and beating up others than they do about actually being helpful.

Can ya read my post and tell me how i didnt try to be as helpful as I could?The chap asked for advice on how to improve his body shape. The eating what he wanted wasnt working so I gave him some practical advice on simple changes that he would reap benefits from!!!!

Hanley · 27-01-2012 11:41am

BlueIsland wrote: »

Can ya read my post and tell me how i didnt try to be as helpful as I could?The chap asked for advice on how to improve his body shape. The eating what he wanted wasnt working so I gave him some practical advice on simple changes that he would reap benefits from!!!!

Can you read my post and tell me where I said "Hey BlueIsland..."?

BlueIsland · 27-01-2012 12:19pm

Hanley wrote: »

Can you read my post and tell me where I said "Hey BlueIsland..."?

read it before...jumped the gun..read it again....apologies.

Hanley · 27-01-2012 12:20pm

BlueIsland wrote: »

read it before...jumped the gun..read it again....apologies.

What the... this doesn't usually happen on the internet...

BlueIsland · 27-01-2012 12:25pm

Hanley wrote: »

What the... this doesn't usually happen on the internet...

Does with me. wouldnt be a huge fan of the old argument for the sake of argument whilst going further and further off the point of the individual who decided to seek advice from apparently "helpful" people. defintely seems to be the way Tinternet going these days!

Marcus95 · 27-01-2012 3:58pm

Sorry...I turned 15 a few weeks ago

Marcus95 · 27-01-2012 9:50pm

No i turned 15 two weeks ago?

GASMANN · 27-01-2012 10:01pm

Marcus95 wrote: »

Hi, im 15 last may i weighed 16 stone and was 5 foot 5.
Im now 14 stone and 6 foot i have a body fat of 21% it was 46%.
Im lookin to lose more bady fat and gain muscle. I play gaa,and train 3 times a week one sprinting session,one spin class and then a farely intensive football or hurling session i also do weight trainin twice a week.
Im looking for a diet that will steadily help me drop some body fat and gain muscle.
Appreciate any help !

In a normal day i would eat; breakfast: bran flakes
lunch: chicken lettuce and cheese sandwhich
dinner : would vary but potatoes often and veg and a meat
i would snack on chocalate covered ricecakes and a nature valley bar and fruit????

Compared to most people my age i eat very well, I rarely eat any junk food maybe once a week. ive just seemed to hit a plateau and cant lose any more but i have been gaining muscle, i feel my lower body is well defined but my upper is chubby ????

Marcus95 wrote: »

Sorry...I turned 15 a few weeks ago

Marcus95 wrote: »

No i turned 15 two weeks ago?

benjamin button

metamorphosis · 28-01-2012 11:28am

I think there was meant to be a comma after 15 in the OPs original post,

Marcus95 · 28-01-2012 4:09pm

I taught this forum was for experienced people to give advice...

metamorphosis · 29-01-2012 1:52pm

Marcus95 wrote: »

I taught this forum was for experienced people to give advice...

You would think so, wouldn't you?

Unfortunately that doesn't always happen.

Well done on the weight loss so far.

At your age, do not be overly focused or too restrictive on your food - eat a little bit of what you fancy. You are still growing and your body requires more than an average adult.

Remember your body is also still growing a LOT at your age. With your activity level, you will need food for energy to keep you going in sports and school.

Like I said, for the moment, eat a little of what you fancy, don't do the dog, don't be too restrictive, there is ALWAYS a middle common ground.

If you want to slowly make improvements (i would strongly underline the word SLOWLY) then eat whole foods, foods that could be eaten when your parents and grandparents were small, foods that can be grown and killed. Base most of your food on decent things and then you will have some to spend on what you fancy.

Marcus95 · 29-01-2012 5:06pm

if i want to lose body fat i cnt really eat what i fancy, like before i went back to school i was on 1300 calories a day,i wasnt doing weights then,but i picked them up around late september and just ate the way i had previously posted ???

Inspector Coptoor · 29-01-2012 5:09pm

Read back through the thread Marcus,

Your diet isn't the worst ever. Not the best either.

Get more protein in through eggs, tuna, chicken & beef.
Train hard & consistently

Marcus95 · 29-01-2012 5:27pm

After reading the nutrition thread, the last two days this is how i have ate;
Breakfast: 3 egg omelette(minus one egg yolk) with mushrooms and tomatoes.
Lunch: 2 small tins of tuna,apple,banana and yoghurt.
Dinner; today i had: wholegrain pasta chicken and boiled sweet potato.
yesterday : grilled sea bass and boiled vegetables and potato.

Any good ???

Inspector Coptoor · 29-01-2012 5:29pm

Marcus95 wrote: »

After reading the nutrition thread, the last two days this is how i have ate;
Breakfast: 3 egg omelette(minus one egg yolk) with mushrooms and tomatoes.
Lunch: 2 small tins of tuna,apple,banana and yoghurt.
Dinner; today i had: wholegrain pasta chicken and boiled sweet potato.
yesterday : grilled sea bass and boiled vegetables and potato.

Any good ???

Looks good.
Throw in a few snacks like nuts & peanut butter and you're all set

Marcus95 · 29-01-2012 5:43pm

im allergic,what can i have instead ?
thanks a lot btw

Marcus95 · 29-01-2012 5:45pm

GASMANN wrote: »

benjamin button

Cheers for the advice..

Inspector Coptoor · 29-01-2012 5:46pm

Marcus95 wrote: »

im allergic,what can i have instead ?
thanks a lot btw

Milk, cottage cheese & more tuna maybe

Marcus95 · 29-01-2012 5:47pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

Milk, cottage cheese & more tuna maybe

by eating them am i just trying to add protein ???

Inspector Coptoor · 29-01-2012 5:51pm

Marcus95 wrote: »

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

Milk, cottage cheese & more tuna maybe

by eating them am i just trying to add protein ???

You're trying to add some more protein, some fat & some more calories.

Marcus95 · 29-01-2012 6:13pm

whats your view on protein supplements,as theres a lot of pressure now for my generation to take them,i dont really agree with them but i dont know much ?

Inspector Coptoor · 29-01-2012 6:36pm

Whey Protein is just food.
It's what left over from the cheese making industry.

So that's all they are. Food.

Can be handy if you're short on time.
But not a magical potion or anything & shouldn't be relied upon to replace a good solid diet.

Marcus95 · 29-01-2012 10:35pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

Whey Protein is just food.
It's what left over from the cheese making industry.

So that's all they are. Food.

Can be handy if you're short on time.
But not a magical potion or anything & shouldn't be relied upon to replace a good solid diet.

i see< thanks !! so if i keep eating as i said earlier i should see fat loss and muscle gain ?

HELP!!

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