Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

Aoifums · 27-01-2012 1:19am

Ok, that is terrifying!! Yeah, I wouldn't have used it either. I'm guessing they thought it was the right thing to do, just in case. Like if you had died then whoever tracked the IP would have felt responsible if they had done nothing.

jammstarr · 27-01-2012 1:24am

Aoifums wrote: »

I had my first counselling session today. I thought it went fine until I was halfway home and I started having mega doubts about it. j0I didn't get to mention half the things I should have so I'm dreading the second one now Stupid brain. We're supposed to be trying mindfullness, some kind of meditation type thing, next week. I'm already stressing about it. I know what happens whenever I meditate and I don't like it. Once I take my mind off it, the floodgates open and that's not something I feel like I can deal with anytime soon. Or at least not right now.

I was going to see a guy (not sure if he was a counsellor or psychotherapist or what). We'd do some hypnotherapy stuff and I'd have an aul cry too. Not too sure what to make of it all still - it was kinda awkward at the time but good to think out loud for a change.

Aoifums · 27-01-2012 1:25am

jammstarr wrote: »

I was going to see a guy (not sure if he was a counsellor or psychotherapist or what). We'd do some hypnotherapy stuff and I'd have an aul cry too. Not too sure what to make of it all still - it was kinda awkward at the time but good to think out loud for a change.

Crying??? :eek: Fair play

I think that's a couple of steps away from me yet.

jammstarr · 27-01-2012 1:36am

Aoifums wrote: »

Crying??? :eek: Fair play I think that's a couple of steps away from me yet.

I was mortified to say the least.

nesf · 27-01-2012 1:38am

jammstarr wrote: »

I was mortified to say the least.

It's hardest the first time. The strategically placed box of tissues on the desk always made me laugh a little before it happened for me.

creation mark · 27-01-2012 1:46am

thrilledskinny wrote: »

WOW congratulations on coming off tabs after all those years.

I forget how the years go by, Was only talking with my psych earlier today, have been on tabs three yrs.
But now I'm feeling much better in myself since the start of the year I'm actually happy to stay on a low dose, would be scared to go down hill again, and see my whole life go down hill, just when its on an up.

Sorry to here bout your job, hope your mood evens out soon ;-) and who know hopefully leaving your job wouldnt be the end of the world, look on it as an opertunity, to get out nad about and ecercise during the day or something, look on the bright side eh ;-)

Thanks thrilledskinny, fair play to you, i had started on the lower dose myself, down to 5mg (from 25mg to 10mg) for a couple of months,i was doing great, felt positive then got mugged & stabbed over a parking space, long story, but that knocked me for six, back to square one but i was adament i was gonna try come off them, just leaving the hospital & my missus decided to tell me we were going to have our first baby.

Best thing thats ever happened to me, Abigail was born 18th October just gone,was very emotional for a while, i'm a stocky guy, shaved head, tattoos long goatee & was crying like a baby haha.
Anyway, got let go from the job,a days notice after 17 years, that rattled me but have decided to follow the positive path & start up my own plumbing business, i'm already flat out with job offers starting next month...its all good for now lol.

You're dead on about the excercise, best advise to give, natural anti depressants!! i felt exactly the same as you going onto the lower dose,I was crapping it that i'd slip back into the gloom, just take the good with the bad, Best of luck on your lower dose, no bother to you!!

Sorry about the essay guys,stay strong me hearties!!:cool:

Mark

Temaz · 27-01-2012 12:56pm

Comfortably numb from the valium,still feel I can't cope with things at the minute.

nesf · 27-01-2012 1:06pm

Had a few hours of feeling really good* last night. T'was nice.

*Not really good for any bipolar people reading this.

thrilledskinny · 27-01-2012 2:35pm

nesf wrote: »

Had a few hours of feeling really good* last night. T'was nice.

Its a constant struggle isnt it ? ;-(

My mistake thinking you were a mod on here 'category moderator' confused me, anyway I'm sure you do a good job in politics and parenting?

And like I said your posts on here help folks a lot too ;-)

nesf · 27-01-2012 2:41pm

thrilledskinny wrote: »

Had a few hours of feeling really good* last night. T'was nice.

Its a constant struggle isnt it ? ;-(

My mistake thinking you were a mod on here 'category moderator' confused me, anyway I'm sure you do a good job in politics and parenting?

And like I said your posts on here help folks a lot too ;-)

Thanks.

Aoifums · 27-01-2012 3:35pm

nesf wrote: »

Had a few hours of feeling really good* last night. T'was nice.

*Not really good for any bipolar people reading this.

I'm not sure if you intended it but I got a proper laugh out of that

nesf · 27-01-2012 4:21pm

Aoifums wrote: »

I'm not sure if you intended it but I got a proper laugh out of that

The bipolar part? Yeah, that was intended to amuse people familiar with the illness.

degausserxo · 27-01-2012 4:40pm

Parents and doctor think I should take another year out before going to college again. Dunno how I feel about this tbh.

nesf · 27-01-2012 5:00pm

degausserxo wrote: »

Parents and doctor think I should take another year out before going to college again. Dunno how I feel about this tbh.

It's not a bad idea to get your head sorted before heading back to the stress of college. It's really something you need to make the most of, scraping a lower mark because you were depressed/anxious/whatever is a bad thing.

Aoifums · 27-01-2012 5:03pm

degausserxo wrote: »

Parents and doctor think I should take another year out before going to college again. Dunno how I feel about this tbh.

What's the alternative? No matter how hard I find college sometimes, having to get up out of bed and getting my game face on is better than sitting around the house. At the very least, it forces a slightly better sleep pattern to form. Then again, it's pretty damn stressful at times. Assignments, exams and the social side of stuff all build up. It's all up to how well you think you can handle it all.

Seren_ · 27-01-2012 6:23pm

jammstarr wrote: »

I was mortified to say the least.

Don't feel too bad about it. I'd say they see it every single day! I'm a b1tch for crying during therapy sessions though

degausserxo wrote: »

Parents and doctor think I should take another year out before going to college again. Dunno how I feel about this tbh.

College can be very stressful, to say the least. I took time off during my course when I was very sick and I found it helped a lot, because I didn't have to worry about assignments and reading on top of everything else (the fact I wasn't able to concentrate at all also helped

). You still have a while to go yet (you're doing LC this year I assume?), so apply for the course you want, and see how you are when the time comes. If you think you're ready for it, go ahead! Make sure and get in touch with the disability office and other supports in college too when you go, because they are unbelievably helpful.

jammstarr · 27-01-2012 6:53pm

degausserxo wrote: »

Parents and doctor think I should take another year out before going to college again. Dunno how I feel about this tbh.

As others have said already it might not be a bad idea at all to take the time to get yourself well. I flunked out of college TWICE due to this. College won't be going anywhere and you'll get the absolute best experience of it when you're better

If you're worried about being older than the rest of the class when you do get there take heart in the fact that thanks to the way the country has gone there'll be people of all ages starting with you.

cloud493 · 27-01-2012 10:04pm

Pieta house this morning. Very nice lady.

stupidusername · 27-01-2012 10:06pm

cloud493 wrote: »

Pieta house this morning. Very nice lady.

how did you get on?

degausserxo · 27-01-2012 10:11pm

Thanks guys. I dropped out in 2009 when things started to get bad, and I really came along last year in terms of getting better. Things are starting to slip a bit at the moment and I think theyre just afraid that history'll repeat itself. I'm doing the LC again though so it might just be stress related. I'll have a think about it over the summer and see if there's any improvement. I don't mind the age thing, I won't be that much older if I end up taking a year out (I'll be 22 but really not bothered).

The alternative.. I don't know. If I do decide to take a year out, it'll obviously be to focus on getting as well as I can. Doctor recommend going back to Pieta as well as staying where I am in psychotherapy at the moment, but I'm afraid that not being involved in something full time will result in another total crash. It's like I have to keep moving and thinking and doing constantly or else I do nothing. I could make plans to join clubs or take up hobbies or whatever but to be honest, if it comes to the point where I'm not able for college I don't think I'll be able for much else either.

I hadn't even considered taking time out until it was mentioned - I know I've been having a little rough patch ATM but it's been suggested that I'm understating just how 'little' it is since it's apparently blindingly obvious to my family and doctor. Anyway. I still have exams ahead of me so I'm just going to focus on them for now and deal with the rest when the time comes.

cloud493 · 27-01-2012 11:03pm

stupidusername wrote: »

how did you get on?

The lady was very patient. Cos I kinda just exploded when I got into the room, and told her things I didn't mean to. But, unhelpful.

stupidusername · 27-01-2012 11:04pm

cloud493 wrote: »

The lady was very patient. Cos I kinda just exploded when I got into the room, and told her things I didn't mean to. But, unhelpful.

patient, but unhelpful? how was she unhelpful?

cloud493 · 27-01-2012 11:13pm

stupidusername wrote: »

patient, but unhelpful? how was she unhelpful?

Like, she didn't say hardly anything. It was just venting. Which is fine. But I could vent to myself. Or someone else. Or she said was 'oh dear, how did you do that' when I showed her the wound, and 'how do you feel about that'

stupidusername · 27-01-2012 11:18pm

cloud493 wrote: »

Like, she didn't say hardly anything. It was just venting. Which is fine. But I could vent to myself. Or someone else. Or she said was 'oh dear, how did you do that' when I showed her the wound, and 'how do you feel about that'

I know what you mean. though lots of people do just want to vent so maybe that's what she thought you needed. how did it end? have you another appointment?

cloud493 · 27-01-2012 11:22pm

stupidusername wrote: »

I know what you mean. though lots of people do just want to vent so maybe that's what she thought you needed. how did it end? have you another appointment?

Yep, same time, same place. Need to find somewhere closer than Lucan, its a pain to get to. And she was nice. I just felt like I was burdening her with my ****, but I couldn't stop

stupidusername · 27-01-2012 11:28pm

cloud493 wrote: »

Yep, same time, same place. Need to find somewhere closer than Lucan, its a pain to get to. And she was nice. I just felt like I was burdening her with my ****, but I couldn't stop

why did you feel you were burdening her?

cloud493 · 27-01-2012 11:33pm

stupidusername wrote: »

why did you feel you were burdening her?

Cos I was talking to her. And my **** doesn't really matter, cos I don't matter, and she could be talking to people who deserve help, not some stupid sex toy loser who hurts himself cos he's stupid and has a stupid english accent.

stupidusername · 27-01-2012 11:55pm

I wonder do you believe that's what any counsellor would think of you. you should try say all that next time you talk to her/somebody. confront her about it. not specifically her, but get it out there that that's the way you feel about it.

cloud493 · 27-01-2012 11:57pm

I did

its part of what I said to her. Told her she wasting her time talking to an idiot like me and she should **** off and talk to someone better.

stupidusername · 28-01-2012 12:01am

cloud493 wrote: »

I did its part of what I said to her. Told her she wasting her time talking to an idiot like me and she should **** off and talk to someone better.

and what did she say to that?

cloud493 · 28-01-2012 12:05am

stupidusername wrote: »

and what did she say to that?

She said 'its ok to feel like that matthew' then waited for me to keep talking.

stupidusername · 28-01-2012 12:09am

cloud493 wrote: »

She said 'its ok to feel like that matthew' then waited for me to keep talking.

right, well it would seem you need to get to see someone else. i don't know the difference between psychotherapist / psychologist / counsellor etc, but i'm guessing their approaches and how they deal with things are different. you need someone to engage you on what you're feeling and work through it, rather than nodding along.

Michelle K · 28-01-2012 12:14am

Hey Guys,

I am in my mid 20's and have been feeling down for quite some time. Growing up was very difficult as my father suffered from Bi Polar and never really admitted to it hence never getting help. My Childhood was difficult but who's wasnt? As i went through college the last year got very very bad, couldnt handle it as I faced horrible events throughout. I did go to the counsellor and after many meetings she suggested writing a diary about my feelings. (I felt like such a twat...) Anyway it didnt suit me so I stopped. I never went back because she said the next step was going to see the doctor to be put on anti-depressents.
Now, things are getting really bad again and I am taking it out of the nearest people around me. It doesnt help either that I hate the way I look and when I eat I regret everything and become self conscious thinking about what I just have eat. I really need your guys advice because I dont know what to do?
I am afraid to go to the doctors because I dont want to go on anti depressents because I feel like I will be defeated and such a failure as a person

Would really like peoples advice....

Seren_ · 28-01-2012 12:21am

I found psychotherapy to be much more engaging then just a regular counsellor, maybe you could try get a referral to see one cloud? You do still have to talk a lot, but the psychotherapist tends to ask a lot more questions and say what they thought.

Seren_ · 28-01-2012 12:26am

Michelle K wrote: »

Hey Guys,

I am in my mid 20's and have been feeling down for quite some time. Growing up was very difficult as my father suffered from Bi Polar and never really admitted to it hence never getting help. My Childhood was difficult but who's wasnt? As i went through college the last year got very very bad, couldnt handle it as I faced horrible events throughout. I did go to the counsellor and after many meetings she suggested writing a diary about my feelings. (I felt like such a twat...) Anyway it didnt suit me so I stopped. I never went back because she said the next step was going to see the doctor to be put on anti-depressents.
Now, things are getting really bad again and I am taking it out of the nearest people around me. It doesnt help either that I hate the way I look and when I eat I regret everything and become self conscious thinking about what I just have eat. I really need your guys advice because I dont know what to do?
I am afraid to go to the doctors because I dont want to go on anti depressents because I feel like I will be defeated and such a failure as a person

Would really like peoples advice....

The bit you mention about looks and food is the exact same for me, so I kinda know how you feel. Don't be afraid of going to the doctor, if you don't want to go on anti-depressants they can't make you. Although, there is no shame in going on them for a while to feel a bit better. The amount of people I know who have been on them at some stage or another in their lives is unreal. There's lots of different types of things that you can try to help you feel better too, exercise being a big one as it releases endorphins which lift mood.

I think making an appointment to see your doctor and have a chat about how you're feeling would be a good idea. Just say exactly what you've said here and you will be okay

This thread is a great place for venting too if you need too along the way.

fitz265 · 28-01-2012 12:42am

i hear where ur comming from lad im the same convinved tis caz of the country were living in i love this country but as a twenty year old father with no work and the government making tings harder and harder year after year budget after budget its hard to blame people for being deprest but its up to ourselves either grin and bare it or smile and repair it caz this country leaders certainly aint showing any signs of helping us all there woried about is paying back that 80 and more billion euro loan they got that whe citizans had no choice in

degausserxo · 28-01-2012 12:51am

cloud493 wrote: »

stupidusername wrote: »

how did you get on?

The lady was very patient. Cos I kinda just exploded when I got into the room, and told her things I didn't mean to. But, unhelpful.

Call them tomorrow and ask to be seen by someone else. If there's no connection between you and her then it'd be a waste of time to go back to her. I can pm you the name of the woman I saw there, who was absolutely incredible, if you want.

You said you exploded into the room, obviously (correct me if I'm wrong) an impulsive thing rather than a purpose sign of aggression. Maybe try and calm down a bit before you go in. One thing I learned there was how to phrase negatives differently- forgive me but I can't remember the exact words you used - instead of saying 'I'm x y z' 'I'm wasting your time' or whatever, say something like 'I feel like I'm x y z and I feel like I'm wasting your time'. Rather than being defiant as you previously were, it should allow a conversation to flow from that.

cloud493 · 28-01-2012 1:05am

degausserxo wrote: »

Call them tomorrow and ask to be seen by someone else. If there's no connection between you and her then it'd be a waste of time to go back to her. I can pm you the name of the woman I saw there, who was absolutely incredible, if you want.

You said you exploded into the room, obviously (correct me if I'm wrong) an impulsive thing rather than a purpose sign of aggression. Maybe try and calm down a bit before you go in. One thing I learned there was how to phrase negatives differently- forgive me but I can't remember the exact words you used - instead of saying 'I'm x y z' 'I'm wasting your time' or whatever, say something like 'I feel like I'm x y z and I feel like I'm wasting your time'. Rather than being defiant as you previously were, it should allow a conversation to flow from that.

Oh yeah, it wasn't aggressive. Normally, when I go in, I... what's the word. measure my responses, if that makes sense. but today, I was tired, and down, and when you she asked 'how have you been?' I just started talking and didn't stop hardly at all for an hour.

nesf · 28-01-2012 1:12am

Night could have gone better. Anxious, too many people in the pub, my Akathisia started up again after being gone for 3 months.

Temaz · 28-01-2012 11:44am

Stayed in last night watching mindless drivel on tv. Feeling ok so far today.

Aoifums · 28-01-2012 8:31pm

My family's reaction to my aunt going into hospital for depression... There's a reason I don't tell them things and that reason just punched me in the stomach

cloud493 · 28-01-2012 8:41pm

Aoifums wrote: »

My family's reaction to my aunt going into hospital for depression... There's a reason I don't tell them things and that reason just punched me in the stomach

Didn't react well?

Seren_ · 28-01-2012 9:13pm

Aoifums wrote: »

My family's reaction to my aunt going into hospital for depression... There's a reason I don't tell them things and that reason just punched me in the stomach

Sh1t, I assume they didn't take it very well

*hug*

That sort of thing really annoys me. If someone had to go into hospital because they broke a leg, people would be all over them wishing them a speedy recovery, bringing them in grapes and magazines and what not. But if someone goes into hospital for a mental health problem, it's treated totally different. I don't get it

Aoifums · 28-01-2012 9:15pm

cloud493 wrote: »

Didn't react well?

Could be better. My mam could barely say the word 'depression'. Not as if half her family don't suffer from it :rolleyes: At least she acknowledged it this time. My aunt had a breakdown (or something) and I wasn't even told about it. :mad: You know, because depression is totally contagious!!

Aoifums · 28-01-2012 9:16pm

Your Text Here wrote: »

Sh1t, I assume they didn't take it very well *hug*

That sort of thing really annoys me. If someone had to go into hospital because they broke a leg, people would be all over them wishing them a speedy recovery, bringing them in grapes and magazines and what not. But if someone goes into hospital for a mental health problem, it's treated totally different. I don't get it

Sorry, didn't see this before I posted. Thanks

I know! It drives me up the wall!! It probably annoys just about everyone who posts here too.

cloud493 · 28-01-2012 9:21pm

Aoifums wrote: »

Could be better. My mam could barely say the word 'depression'. Not as if half her family don't suffer from it :rolleyes: At least she acknowledged it this time. My aunt had a breakdown (or something) and I wasn't even told about it. :mad: You know, because depression is totally contagious!!

That sucks

ah well, least your aunts getting the help she needs, eventually the family will rally for her eventually.

jammstarr · 28-01-2012 9:23pm

I think people genuinely don't understand mental problems and can react wrongly to them due to the sigma of such problems. Not condoning it at all - it's a well shitty situation to be in

Aoifums · 28-01-2012 9:23pm

Yeah I hope she gets help. From what the parents were saying when they didn't think I could hear ( :mad::mad::mad:) makes it sound like it's not her first time in hospital.

cloud493 · 28-01-2012 9:43pm

Aoifums wrote: »

Yeah I hope she gets help. From what the parents were saying when they didn't think I could hear ( :mad::mad::mad:) makes it sound like it's not her first time in hospital.

Well, they should be more supportive(if you don't mind my saying so) but eventually, they'll come round to her

Aoifums · 28-01-2012 9:53pm

cloud493 wrote: »

Well, they should be more supportive(if you don't mind my saying so) but eventually, they'll come round to her

Of course I don't mind. I really wanted to tell my mam to cop the f on. I didn't so I just posted here instead.

Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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