WeightWatchers & "How Many ProPoints?" Thread MkII

BaileyPants · 12-01-2012 04:42PM

lizlemon wrote: »

Hi All,

It's been quite a while since I posted, or even caught up on this thread and it feels good to be back.

I was doing WW's last year in the run up to my wedding in November. Managed to lose 30 pounds in total and I was really happy with my progress. So after the wedding I left everything slide, ATE myself across California on Honeymoon, ate everything I could over Christmas and New Year and I turned up at WW's last Tuesday night to check out the damage...

12 POUNDS UP!!!!

I knew by my clothes that I had put up some weight but I really didn't think it would be that much.. Any way, the damage is done. I'm really glad I went back when I did, and now it's back on the WW's wagon for me. I'm trying to feel positive but I can't say it's fun to be 'RE-losing' weight. But, I am where I am, so onwards and downwards eh?

Just thought I'd share

Well that's it, what has happened is in the past, be glad that you are now back on track & are determined to loose what needs be.

Welcome back (says me who's only a newbie lol!)

ali85 · 12-01-2012 04:44PM

BaileyPants wrote: »

Speaking of tracking, I've started using that iWatcher iPhone app. It's good so far. Anyone else using it? How you finding it?

I'm on android and I'm finding terrible apps....

One app I got is for charting your weight... so of course I stuck in my start weight last week, then last night put in my new weight... apparently there is a 2.5lb "trend variation"... which is whats showing up on the graphy thing... even though I lost 4... Now maybe i'm just a thick and its some really scientific thing... but hey! I lost 4lbs not 2.5lb!!! :P

The others like pedometers and such are rubbish.... I can't get one decent one!

Anyone find anything on Android that works?????

tiny_penguin · 12-01-2012 04:45PM

BaileyPants wrote: »

Speaking of tracking, I've started using that iWatcher iPhone app. It's good so far. Anyone else using it? How you finding it?

Yeh i swear by it. Love that it saves the commonly eaten stuff in favourites, makes it so much easier to track. My biggest downfall before was how bad at tracking I was, but with iwatcher I have no excuse not too.I have my phone 90% of the time. And the fact there is a calculator on it means you can point stuff no matter where you are!

ali85 · 12-01-2012 04:55PM

lizlemon wrote: »

Hi All,

It's been quite a while since I posted, or even caught up on this thread and it feels good to be back.

I was doing WW's last year in the run up to my wedding in November. Managed to lose 30 pounds in total and I was really happy with my progress. So after the wedding I left everything slide, ATE myself across California on Honeymoon, ate everything I could over Christmas and New Year and I turned up at WW's last Tuesday night to check out the damage...

12 POUNDS UP!!!!

I knew by my clothes that I had put up some weight but I really didn't think it would be that much.. Any way, the damage is done. I'm really glad I went back when I did, and now it's back on the WW's wagon for me. I'm trying to feel positive but I can't say it's fun to be 'RE-losing' weight. But, I am where I am, so onwards and downwards eh?

Just thought I'd share

The fact you came back so quickly shows that you are definitely in the right frame of mind... just think...by summer that 12lbs will be long gone!!!

ali85 · 12-01-2012 04:56PM

BaileyPants wrote: »

I am exactly the same. WI tonite, didn't track to well, but feel I ate much healthier etc.

Good luck tonite eeek!

Good luck Baileypants!!!!!

Good luck to everyone else having their WI's tonight!!!!

Onwards and Downwards!!!!!!

BaileyPants · 12-01-2012 05:07PM

tiny_penguin wrote: »

Yeh i swear by it. Love that it saves the commonly eaten stuff in favourites, makes it so much easier to track. My biggest downfall before was how bad at tracking I was, but with iwatcher I have no excuse not too.I have my phone 90% of the time. And the fact there is a calculator on it means you can point stuff no matter where you are!

Ah that's great then! Thanks for that. I was using a fab app 'my fitness pal' before I joined WW, and it stored all my input foods, but you could also do a search of a food you hadn't input and it would come up as someone else in the world had more than likely input it & you could just select it. Now that would be fab if only it was all pointed lol!

Still delighted I've found the iWatcher now though! Points points points!

intouch44 · 12-01-2012 05:21PM

Had a look at some of yer blogs, they're very good, looking forward to reading more of them

Would be interested in haveing a look at Jwacqui's too if someone could direct me to it? Thanks!

BaileyPants · 12-01-2012 05:35PM

intouch44 wrote: »

Had a look at some of yer blogs, they're very good, looking forward to reading more of them

Would be interested in haveing a look at Jwacqui's too if someone could direct me to it? Thanks!

If you click on her name & go to her profile, it's under signature ;-)

hollypink · 12-01-2012 06:04PM

hollypink wrote: »

started WW last week so first WI tonight (gulp). I took a sneaky look at the scales last night and I wasn't even down half a pound so not feeling too optimistic. I didn't track my points very closely so that probably didn't help.

As I feared - sts

Not a great start but determined to track and do better next week.

BaileyPants · 12-01-2012 07:05PM

Am sitting in my class waiting for everyone else to get weighed - down 2lbs! Not a bad start. Would like to b one of those people that lost 4 or 5 but anything's better than nothing! Definitely motivated for this week now! ;-)

LizT · 12-01-2012 07:16PM

befriend1 wrote: »

Hey Guys

I have been looking through your posts the last two days and must say I am so impressed - you guys are amazing! I am back to WW for my third time and this time, I am at my BIGGEST, 19 stone and 3 and a half pounds :mad::mad: what has happened to me?! Anyway, I have to say I feel different this time..life is getting far too difficult being overweight and things have to change. I have been on my best behavior this week and even did Zumba for 30 mins for five of the days. I have my second weigh-in tonight and I really hope that a good loss will motivate me to keep going strong.

Quick question...

I have 43 points per day and use about 33 on food (including a WW microwave meal for dinner - as I am terrible at cooking, which is half the problem) and then I use most of the rest for treats. I have a VERY sweet tooth and I have been nibbling on WW bars and snacks! But still keeping within my points.. Is this OK? Or do you think it will go against me? I just find that still feeling a little bold and having the treats makes it a lot easier.

I have copied some of your recipes and food PP's from the threads, thank you! I will also be buying the Eating Out book tonight. :)

Hey, you sound a lot like me! My starting weight was 19 st 2, even though I am six foot so I can carry some extra weight but not that much!!

For my first week I pointed everything but I did still have sweets and treats. I lost 2.5 my first week and the next week I stayed the same.

One week I had barely any treats - maybe one or two biscuits during the week and that was it and I lost 5 pounds!!

Technically you should still lose weight if stay within your points but you need to think about sustainability. You will find the weight comes off easier if you cut down on the treats.

It's a dangerous trap to fall into as well 'I have 6 points left over so I can have a bag of crisps and a bar of chocolate. Speaking personally, eating junk food made me overweight. It's not going to help me lose the weight.

For the first few weeks you will probably lose weight but it will get harder and harder if you use your points for treats.

Hope I haven't come across as harsh, just sharing my experiences.

ali85 · 12-01-2012 07:40PM

BaileyPants wrote: »

Am sitting in my class waiting for everyone else to get weighed - down 2lbs! Not a bad start. Would like to b one of those people that lost 4 or 5 but anything's better than nothing! Definitely motivated for this week now! ;-)

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!! well done!!!!!!

ali85 · 12-01-2012 07:41PM

hollypink wrote: »

As I feared - sts Not a great start but determined to track and do better next week.

Well just think if you weren't doing WW you could have been up!!! You are obviously doing something right!

Don't be worryin..... You won't know yourself next week!!!!

Ellian · 12-01-2012 08:41PM

OK, so not posted here before so apologies if this is the wrong thread.

Long version of the story. Male, 40, for the last ten years, reasonably healthy, run about 15 miles a week, but fond of rich food and red wine. So for the last ten years have been sitting at about 14 stone, ten lbs, plus or minus a few pounds, and always felt I should try and get it down to the flat fourteen (which would be about right for my height and the weight I was in college) , but never really got motivated to do anything about it.

Anyway, about three months ago, we revamped the ground floor of our house. Which was three months without a kitchen. And getting less exercise because there was always wallpaper stripping, or painting or skirting boards. Three months of microwave meals, and take aways and pub grub. And then it was straight into Christmas. So when I measured up on the 28th, I was up nearly a stone.

Right, so that's it. Final straw. My wife feels the same, and we join weight watchers. I start running again. I end up with 44 propoints and she gets 26. Since I do most of the cooking, I generally cook for both of us, and we're coming in at the 26 mark most days (I occasionally bump mine to 30) Also back to running which buys me a few more points.

But two weeks in and I have actually gained a pound, while the missus has dropped two. So I suppose the short version of the question is

Do I have to use all the alloted points, and how does that work, or is it just that it takes a bit of time, to kick in and my body is hoarding because of my sudden change in calorie intake? I am actually really enjoying the new diet (the one good thing is that I feel less bloated all the time) and I really don't want to go back to nose bagging just to make up points that I really don't want to onboard anyway.

fionas046 · 12-01-2012 08:49PM

Ellian wrote: »

OK, so not posted here before so apologies if this is the wrong thread.

Long version of the story. Male, 40, for the last ten years, reasonably healthy, run about 15 miles a week, but fond of rich food and red wine. So for the last ten years have been sitting at about 14 stone, ten lbs, plus or minus a few pounds, and always felt I should try and get it down to the flat fourteen (which would be about right for my height and the weight I was in college) , but never really got motivated to do anything about it.

Anyway, about three months ago, we revamped the ground floor of our house. Which was three months without a kitchen. And getting less exercise because there was always wallpaper stripping, or painting or skirting boards. Three months of microwave meals, and take aways and pub grub. And then it was straight into Christmas. So when I measured up on the 28th, I was up nearly a stone.

Right, so that's it. Final straw. My wife feels the same, and we join weight watchers. I start running again. I end up with 44 propoints and she gets 26. Since I do most of the cooking, I generally cook for both of us, and we're coming in at the 26 mark most days (I occasionally bump mine to 30) Also back to running which buys me a few more points.

But two weeks in and I have actually gained a pound, while the missus has dropped two. So I suppose the short version of the question is

Do I have to use all the alloted points, and how does that work, or is it just that it takes a bit of time, to kick in and my body is hoarding because of my sudden change in calorie intake? I am actually really enjoying the new diet (the one good thing is that I feel less bloated all the time) and I really don't want to go back to nose bagging just to make up points that I really don't want to onboard anyway.

The short answer is yes, you need to use all or most of your allocated points every day. If you don't it means your body is not getting enough of the nutrients it needs and therefore goes into starvation mode. It basically hangs onto to fat 'just in case' instead of getting rid of it.
If you doing intensive excercise like running you actually need to eat more! God I wish I was a man!!!

username2010 · 12-01-2012 08:58PM

befriend1 wrote: »

Hey Guys

I have been looking through your posts the last two days and must say I am so impressed - you guys are amazing! I am back to WW for my third time and this time, I am at my BIGGEST, 19 stone and 3 and a half pounds :mad::mad: what has happened to me?! Anyway, I have to say I feel different this time..life is getting far too difficult being overweight and things have to change. I have been on my best behavior this week and even did Zumba for 30 mins for five of the days. I have my second weigh-in tonight and I really hope that a good loss will motivate me to keep going strong.

Quick question...

I have 43 points per day and use about 33 on food (including a WW microwave meal for dinner - as I am terrible at cooking, which is half the problem) and then I use most of the rest for treats. I have a VERY sweet tooth and I have been nibbling on WW bars and snacks! But still keeping within my points.. Is this OK? Or do you think it will go against me? I just find that still feeling a little bold and having the treats makes it a lot easier.

I have copied some of your recipes and food PP's from the threads, thank you! I will also be buying the Eating Out book tonight. :)

Best of luck with it! Once you get into the swing of it, you'll be grand....

I am also my biggest ever at 15st 2....Last time I did WW, I was 13st 9, and I couldn't believe I was that....
Still though...I know we can do it.....

Ellian · 12-01-2012 08:58PM

But surely the body can't hang onto the fat indefinitely. I mean instead of looking at this as propoints and look at calories, if I am using about 2000 a day and maybe another 300 if I go for a run and only taking onboard 1500, then surely eventually my body has to reluctantly start to burn into the fat reserves to make up the balance. I know this is not following the weight watchers bible but I really don't think I can go back to eating bacon sandwiches just to add another 14 points to my daily intake. (I think I am getting enough nutrients by the way because I am being very careful about protiens, carbs, fibre, and vitamins - I worked out a weekly diet and am sticking to it) And I apologise also if turning up and having a moan about not being able to use up my points is considered really bad form. Although I imagine it goes at the end of a long list of biological reasons why women got the fuzzy end of the lollipop.

ynul31f47k6b59 · 12-01-2012 09:19PM

Monife wrote: »

What are the Aldi skinless sausages like? Sounds brill. Was just in Aldi today Will get them in next weeks shop. I always got the bacon medallions because I actually hate fat on anything (ha you wouldn't think that from the size of me lol). My fave weekend brekkie is 2 bacon medallions, 1 fried egg (in low cal spray), some fried potatoes (in 1 tsp oil) and half tin of beans. Lovely huge brekkie for also 9PP (depending on how much potatoes you use, 150g is enough when they are sliced thinly). Nom nom nom

Apologies for the awful delay in replying to this, Monife! I actually like the Aldi sausages, while the OH wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. I think it's all down to taste, but to me, they don't taste much different to any other skinless brand!

MILF wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good weighing scales that doesn't cost a bomb? Need to weigh up properly and I dropped my one this morning and cracked the bloody thing! :mad:

I got mine in Argos ages back, the brand is Salter and it wasn't too expensive (can't remember actual price, apologies) and it's 100% bang on accurate. Had a little packet weighing session just to make sure!

Ellian wrote: »

But surely the body can't hang onto the fat indefinitely. I mean instead of looking at this as propoints and look at calories, if I am using about 2000 a day and maybe another 300 if I go for a run and only taking onboard 1500, then surely eventually my body has to reluctantly start to burn into the fat reserves to make up the balance. I know this is not following the weight watchers bible but I really don't think I can go back to eating bacon sandwiches just to add another 14 points to my daily intake. (I think I am getting enough nutrients by the way because I am being very careful about protiens, carbs, fibre, and vitamins - I worked out a weekly diet and am sticking to it) And I apologise also if turning up and having a moan about not being able to use up my points is considered really bad form. Although I imagine it goes at the end of a long list of biological reasons why women got the fuzzy end of the lollipop.

I have to confess, I've no idea about calories any more since I started WW. I just know that you're given a points allowance based on your current weight, height, sex and age, and that will decrease once you begin losing weight. You do have to eat your daily allowance, but there are ways to do that without grazing on stuff you don't want - bulk out your meals with more carbohydrates or proteins, or bulk up wraps/salads with healthy fats like avocados. Just another small thing - you said that you've worked out a weekly diet and are sticking to it - vary it up a bit because there's potential there for you to get really sick of that after a few weeks, it happened to me and I was flying with the weight loss before hand. Anyway - I'm not a leader, so don't take my word as gospel, but if I were you I'd have a chat with your leader at the end of your next class and see if he/she has anything that would help you. Best of luck!

Had WI tonight, was down 2.5 - that's the Christmas weight plus another half pound gone. Phew! Doing out my shopping list tonight - I made a rule last week that I was not going to have bloody lemon sole or chicken fillets for the week (so sick of them), have replaced them with turkey steaks and fresh coley - lovely for a change. Only 2lbs more to go and I'll be into the 13s for the first time in years!!!!!!!

Sorry for the he-uge rant, I always go into super-hyper-motivated mode on Thursday evenings

Best of luck for the week everyone, we can do it :Dxxx

Kay_80 · 12-01-2012 09:28PM

Based on you generally eating 26pp per day there is no wayuou are consuming 2000 calories. Roughly speaking 1pp = 40 calories which is 1040.... I'm sure you are eating zero pointed foods too so that would add more cals.

Yes if you eat less you will eventually lose but it will be extremely slow & you may find your body hanging onto the fat. The biggest issue as I would see it would be the types of food you are eating if you are eating so little relative to the pp you have been allocated. I'm surprised a man would feel fully satisfied on 26pp. If I was you I'd up my protein ( great for ppl who run alot as well) I'd also really examine what I'm eating. You haven't given much of an example so I can't be more helpful here.

Me personally im female on 29pp per day & I have found my weightloss slow generally 0.5 -1lb per week in 11 months I've lost 33lbs ( I took 1 mth off) & I'm happy with that pace I want to lose 21 more. Based on What you've said you have about 2 stone to lose is that right? That's not a huge amount for a man if you are happy to lose it slowly. But to be honest if I was at this 2 weeks with no loss I would be examining my tracker to see what's wrong. Be sure to eat plenty of whole grains fruit veg & protien & definitely drink alot of water 2 ltrs a day if possible. I would never advocate junk food treats or a Bacon sambo to use up my dailies but I would maybe add an avocado to a salad for 8-9pp use olive oil for say 1pp instead of that additive in a can spray oil which is zero an extra portion of say chicken for 2-3 & maybe an extra 20g of brown rice or something for 2.

Are you using your weeklies?

Monife · 12-01-2012 09:29PM

Ellian wrote: »

But surely the body can't hang onto the fat indefinitely. I mean instead of looking at this as propoints and look at calories, if I am using about 2000 a day and maybe another 300 if I go for a run and only taking onboard 1500, then surely eventually my body has to reluctantly start to burn into the fat reserves to make up the balance. I know this is not following the weight watchers bible but I really don't think I can go back to eating bacon sandwiches just to add another 14 points to my daily intake. (I think I am getting enough nutrients by the way because I am being very careful about protiens, carbs, fibre, and vitamins - I worked out a weekly diet and am sticking to it) And I apologise also if turning up and having a moan about not being able to use up my points is considered really bad form. Although I imagine it goes at the end of a long list of biological reasons why women got the fuzzy end of the lollipop.

You could try bulking up your meals with high point healthy proteins and fats. I understand your logic and I would be of the opinion that the body eventually will have to lose the fat, but WW does say you need to eat all your points to lose weight and especially if you are exercising. Even if you eat all your points, you are only consuming approximately 1800 calories (I worked out that approx 40 calories is equal to 1PP). That is not including fruit and veg though. Try eating at least 40 of your PP this week and see what happens.

Also, are you drinking enough water?

ShindyB · 12-01-2012 09:31PM

BaileyPants wrote: »

Am sitting in my class waiting for everyone else to get weighed - down 2lbs! Not a bad start. Would like to b one of those people that lost 4 or 5 but anything's better than nothing! Definitely motivated for this week now! ;-)

Well done you! Great motivation! keep it up! Just back in from a walk now!

Kay_80 · 12-01-2012 09:42PM

Congrats on all the great losses on here ye are all doing great fair play & great motivation for all you newbies

I would suggest that if you're looking for tips or some recipes do s search on this thread & our old WW thread which g'em has linked in the first post of this thread there are some lovely soup & lunch ideas & tasty dinners if ppl get bored!

I would definitely vary up the foods you're eating not only will you get bored (LOL at the lemon sole & chicken comment ^ up there) but your body will get bored & as some of us veterans have found will not shift the bloody weight! Variety I'd the spice of life & all that jazz

So good week so far exercised alot I've ran 20k so far this week & I'll prob do another 5 tomorrow tracked everything so Hopi g for a loss when I WI @ the weekend.

The even better part is I was at my Dr's this week I had blood pressure monitoring for 24 hrs ( I've had high bp in the past) & all my resdings were in the normal range. I also got bloods done for diabetes & cholestrol & they all came back perfect - so relieved but also delighted to know that my change in lifestyle is having a positive effect on my health

newbee22 · 12-01-2012 09:43PM

It's my one year weight watchers anniversary this week:) Have lost over 6stone now, haven't been to a meeting since October*literally have been up the walls!) but have managed to keep it off and lose more! Still sticking to my 29 points but reading here( well scanning through the posts!) I see there's changes to the points?

Kay_80 · 12-01-2012 09:46PM

Ps sorry for all the typos! I'm typing on my iPhone - I may be 33lb down but I still got me some fat fingers!

Kay_80 · 12-01-2012 09:51PM

Hey newbee good to see you again & happy anniversary!

fair play on the maintenance!

Yes some changes on the pp for new members starting the minimum can now be set at 26 ( they reccomend 23 for food & 3 for milk) ppl who were already on 29 & finding their weightloss slow have the option of dropping down to 26 if they wish.

I'm sticking to my 29 yes my loss is slow but it's steady & manageable & I don't feel deprived or on a diet so if it ain't broke!

tiny_penguin · 12-01-2012 10:27PM

BaileyPants wrote: »

Am sitting in my class waiting for everyone else to get weighed - down 2lbs! Not a bad start. Would like to b one of those people that lost 4 or 5 but anything's better than nothing! Definitely motivated for this week now! ;-)

Well done! 2lbs is great

And onto a new week and another loss now!

Ellian · 12-01-2012 11:02PM

Kay_80 wrote: »

Based on you generally eating 26pp per day there is no wayuou are consuming 2000 calories. Roughly speaking 1pp = 40 calories which is 1040.... I'm sure you are eating zero pointed foods too so that would add more cals.

Yes if you eat less you will eventually lose but it will be extremely slow & you may find your body hanging onto the fat. The biggest issue as I would see it would be the types of food you are eating if you are eating so little relative to the pp you have been allocated. I'm surprised a man would feel fully satisfied on 26pp. If I was you I'd up my protein ( great for ppl who run alot as well) I'd also really examine what I'm eating. You haven't given much of an example so I can't be more helpful here.

Me personally im female on 29pp per day & I have found my weightloss slow generally 0.5 -1lb per week in 11 months I've lost 33lbs ( I took 1 mth off) & I'm happy with that pace I want to lose 21 more. Based on What you've said you have about 2 stone to lose is that right? That's not a huge amount for a man if you are happy to lose it slowly. But to be honest if I was at this 2 weeks with no loss I would be examining my tracker to see what's wrong. Be sure to eat plenty of whole grains fruit veg & protien & definitely drink alot of water 2 ltrs a day if possible. I would never advocate junk food treats or a Bacon sambo to use up my dailies but I would maybe add an avocado to a salad for 8-9pp use olive oil for say 1pp instead of that additive in a can spray oil which is zero an extra portion of say chicken for 2-3 & maybe an extra 20g of brown rice or something for 2.

Are you using your weeklies?

You're right on the zero calories. Lots of fruit and veg in the diet which is probably why I am struggling to meet the points (I eat fish but generally not meat unless it's a special occasion) Breakfast is a bowl of porridge with blueberries or a boiled egg and a slice of toast. Lunch is a salad - one of ten different types usually in the five-seven point range and dinner is usually rice, couscous or pasta based with veggies. Usually comes in around the 10-12 point mark. add in a couple of cups of tea with semi skimmed milk with no sugar and as I said, it is usually around the 26-30 mark. I usually end up supplementing those meals with a couple of pieces of fruit a day, but overall I have not found myself feeling hungry at all.

Mumof3andboy · 12-01-2012 11:10PM

New to the ProPoints system for ww and I'm on my first week. Don't know if I'm eating too much but sure we'll see at the first weigh in next week.

Mumof3andboy · 12-01-2012 11:10PM

New to the ProPoints system for ww and I'm on my first week. Don't know if I'm eating too much but sure we'll see at the first weigh in next week.

fussyonion · 13-01-2012 12:11AM

Biggest tip I could give anyone new or anyone wondering why they're gaining instead of losing,,is track EVERYTHING!
I know it sounds cliched but I hadn't been tracking everything, then one week I tracked absolutely every single thing..I even managed to have wine all weekend and I lost 4 and a half pounds.
I'd done nothing different, food-wise, just tracked everything.
Dont be afraid to write it all down-nobody's going to look at your book!
Good luck everyone.I hope this year is the year I do it

WeightWatchers & "How Many ProPoints?" Thread MkII

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