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  • #4142
    amiable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    flahavaj wrote: »
    You're being anything but your username tonight there kiddo, one shandy too many at the Christmas party perhaps?
    No


  • #4143
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    flahavaj wrote: »
    It would be travesty if LFC's official statment wasn't met with some kind of FA sanction.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4


  • #4144
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    flahavaj wrote: »
    It would be travesty if LFC's official statment wasn't met with some kind of FA sanction.


    A travesty of what exactly?

    A travesty of justice?

    A travesty of decency?


    I am just curious what exactly it is a travesty of, and why exactly should it deserve a sanction against the club.


  • #4145
    amiable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Kess73 wrote: »
    A travesty of what exactly?

    A travesty of justice?

    A travesty of decency?


    I am just curious what exactly it is a travesty of, and why exactly should it deserve a sanction against the club.
    Flah is just feeling smug and talking out his arse


  • #4146
    jank
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Liverpool FC, this is for you.

    3stooges_face_palm.jpg


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  • #4147
    amiable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    jank wrote: »
    Liverpool FC, this is for you.

    3stooges_face_palm.jpg
    Ease up on the info there


  • #4148
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oiwhDjO9c


  • #4149
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    jank wrote: »
    Liverpool FC, this is for you.

    Lay off the gargle there chief.


  • #4150
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    When it comes to liverpool and Flah i think this song is very appropriate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZDjnWtK1A


  • #4151
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Kess73 wrote: »
    A travesty of what exactly?

    A travesty of justice?

    A travesty of decency?


    I am just curious what exactly it is a travesty of, and why exactly should it deserve a sanction against the club.

    Justice.

    The fact alone that they accuse the FA of having it in for Suarez from the start alone will surely land them in hot water. Thats before you even go into the attack on Evra, the Father ted-esque family history and the fact that they rant and rave about the FA's findings while admitting they still have to read the full report.


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  • #4152
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Trilla wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oiwhDjO9c
    Christ that's more intellectual than some of the posts in here this evening :pac:


  • #4153
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    niallo27 wrote: »
    When it comes to liverpool and Flah i think this song is very appropriate.

    The only true colours being shown in the last few days have been by LFC in their desire to bizarrely pander to the most militant and dim-witted elements of their support with that statement.


  • #4154
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Gordon Taylor is a tool his statement included the line “I understand the point about cultural differences but if you come to this country all players have to abide by not just the laws of the game but the laws of the land as well. Referring to someone’s skin colour has got to be offensive — it’s self-evident.".

    The he either doesn't realise, or is will fully ignoring, is that in south america using the word Negro/Negra has nothing to do with skin colour. It's not racial at all, he wasn't refering to Evra's skin colour when he said negro, it's like an irish person saying "buck/boyo/sham/lad/dude/mate/whatever.

    The FA and The PFA have royally ****ed up in this one, and everyone (read:united fans) acting like justice has been served and Suerez is some neo-nazi, are ****ing idiots.


  • #4155
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Justice.

    The fact alone that they accuse the FA of having it in for Suarez from the start alone will surely land them in hot water. Thats before you even go into the attack on Evra, the Father ted-esque family history and the fact that they rant and rave about the FA's findings while admitting they still have to read the full report.


    A travesty of justice? Methinks you need to get a better grasp of what that actually means Fla. The FA have found Suarez guilty and have put a punishment in place pending appeal of course. Feel free to point out exactly where this travesty of justice that you feel warrants an FA sanction is, and please explain exactly how it is a travesty of justice, because what you just said shows no explain of that.

    What you are doing with your "travesty of justice" claim is the exact same pandering to the knee jerkers that you say others are doing. Personally the anti Liverpool and anti Man Utd stuff in this thread is just circle jerk stuff for the usual suspects who don't want to have any kind of sensible debate. Thought you were above that kind of braindead rubbish.


  • #4156
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Christ that's more intellectual than some of the posts in here this evening :pac:


    Nowhere near as addictive as the proper badger song though. :D


  • #4157
    jank
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Gordon Taylor, the PFA’s chief executive, who tried to bring the two clubs together in the immediate aftermath of the racism allegation, said the FA was beyond reproach. Taylor said: “This was an independent commission experienced in law and football and they must have had compelling evidence, and it sends out a very strong message to the rest of the world.
    “I understand the point about cultural differences but if you come to this country all players have to abide by not just the laws of the game but the laws of the land as well. Referring to someone’s skin colour has got to be offensive — it’s self-evident

    This is all that one needs to know about this issue.
    Liverpool have a long tradition of playing the victim and re-writing history. Disgrace of a club to be honest. So glad I dont support them.


  • #4158
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Gordon Taylor is a tool his statement included the line “I understand the point about cultural differences but if you come to this country all players have to abide by not just the laws of the game but the laws of the land as well. Referring to someone’s skin colour has got to be offensive — it’s self-evident.".

    The he either doesn't realise, or is will fully ignoring, is that in south america using the word Negro/Negra has nothing to do with skin colour. It's not racial at all, he wasn't refering to Evra's skin colour when he said negro, it's like an irish person saying "buck/boyo/sham/lad/dude/mate/whatever.

    The FA and The PFA have royally ****ed up in this one, and everyone (read:united fans) acting like justice has been served and Suerez is some neo-nazi, are ****ing idiots.

    Well if LFC are to be believed then its not what he said thats the problem its whether he said it at all.......
    LFC wrote:
    We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.


  • #4159
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Kess73 wrote: »
    A travesty of justice? Methinks you need to get a better grasp of what that actually means Fla. The FA have found Suarez guilty and have put a punishment in place pending appeal of course. Feel free to point out exactly where this travesty of justice that you feel warrants an FA sanction is, and please explain exactly how it is a travesty of justice, because what you just said shows no explain of that.

    I said it would be a travesty of justice if they didn't punish Liverpool for the bullsh*t they produced last night.
    What you are doing with your "travesty of justice" claim is the exact same pandering to the knee jerkers that you say others are doing. Personally the anti Liverpool and anti Man Utd stuff in this thread is just circle jerk stuff for the usual suspects who don't want to have any kind of sensible debate. Thought you were above that kind of braindead rubbish.

    I fail to see how speaking out about how Liverpool FC have deliberatelty stoked the flames amongst an already frothing at the mouth fanbase is "braindead." Their statement is deeply irresponsible.


  • #4160
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    flahavaj wrote: »
    The only true colours being shown in the last few days have been by LFC in their desire to bizarrely pander to the most militant and dim-witted elements of their support with that statement.

    Back to your best flah, you were missed.


  • #4161
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Seaneh wrote: »
    and Suerez is some neo-nazi, are ****ing idiots.

    Whether it matters or not my personal feeling about it all is that I'm delighted for him after that World cup handball incident. Thierry Henry * 100.

    I do wish though it never happened whether he said it, meant to be racist or not.

    Lets get on with the footy!


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  • #4162
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    And even at that they are right.

    One person claims that he said something, they didn't mention it during the game and nobody else heard it, nobody else complained about it until after the game. The ref didn't caution/send off the player accused. It's Evra's word against Suerez's, which is bull**** enough. The lad is, obviously, not a racist.

    It's a bull**** accusation and a bull**** punishment.


  • #4163
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Seaneh wrote: »
    And even at that they are right.

    One person claims that he said something, they didn't mention it during the game and nobody else heard it, nobody else complained about it until after the game. The ref didn't caution/send off the player accused. It's Evra's word against Suerez's, which is bull**** enough. The lad is, obviously, not a racist.

    It's a bull**** accusation and a bull**** punishment.

    You're all over the gaffe here Seaneh, one minute you're arguing that whet he said was fine, now you're doubting whether it was said at all. Get your facts right before you go running your mouth off.


  • #4164
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Trilla wrote: »
    Whether it matters or not my personal feeling about it all is that I'm delighted for him after that World cup handball incident. Thierry Henry * 100.

    I do wish though it never happened whether he said it, meant to be racist or not.

    Lets get on with the footy!

    How was it henry by a 100, he didnt get away with it, it was a pen and he was sent off.


  • #4165
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    It's a ridiculous situation when the verdict is delivered a month before the evidence.
    A one month wait? Why?
    wrote:
    Referring to someone’s skin colour has got to be offensive — it’s self-evident

    No it isn't, tbh.


  • #4166
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    flahavaj wrote: »
    It would be travesty if LFC's official statment wasn't met with some kind of FA sanction.

    :D

    Jaysus, its a competition in going full retard in these posts.

    A fecking month? What happened the 4 days to have an iron clad ruling?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #4167
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    flahavaj wrote: »
    You're all over the gaffe here Seaneh, one minute you're arguing that whet he said was fine, now you're doubting whether it was said at all. Get your facts right before you go running your mouth off.

    back in your box, you.

    If he said it, it wasn't racist.
    Even if he'd called Evra a dirty banana eating chimp, it was one persons word against another.

    The fact that Evra waited until AFTER the game to even bring it up, to me, screams bull****.


  • #4168
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    niallo27 wrote: »
    How was it henry by a 100, he didnt get away with it, it was a pen and he was sent off.

    Intent... did him or Henry know the outcome when they did it? Also the stage of with it is done and what was at stake was a lot bigger. Why question this anyways? Will I reduce the number to 50 times, 25 times, 2 times? Figure of speech when someone says 100 times worse.

    I'll rephrase so "it was a lot worse". I don't mean to derail the thread, I was (probably wrongly) stating my feelings on the guy and what comes around goes around.
    Seaneh wrote: »
    The fact that Evra waited until AFTER the game to even bring it up, to me, screams bull****.

    I'm not sure of this, but didn't he complain to the referee during the game? He definitely had a hissy fit about something when the clashed


  • #4169
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Oh good God God of almighty, I didn't read the last page.

    Flah is playing to the lowest common denominator.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #4170
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Seaneh wrote: »
    back in your box, you.

    If he said it, it wasn't racist.
    Even if he'd called Evra a dirty banana eating chimp, it was one persons word against another.

    The fact that Evra waited until AFTER the game to even bring it up, to me, screams bull****.

    Well which was it?

    Or do you think that no matter what actually happened Evra was making it up, based on some dememted idea that complaining after the game equals lies? You're talking sh*te tbh, you haven't a clue.

    I thought we got past this pretty basic level of debate about 90 pages ago tbh, you're trotting out lines that the Suarez apologists were throwing out weeks ago....


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  • #4171
    Justin10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,248 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Just curious, as he is guilty, how can Liverpool stand by him?
    I dont understand this at all. This happens in any workplace you be sacked or suspended or punishment but not supported and wearing a tshirt with the guilty persons name and face on it.

    Think Liverpool letting the whole kick it out campaign down.


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