corofin gaa

nice_guy80 · 22-11-2011 10:31PM

hold on.

Didn't the Corofin Club CHAIRMAN receive a ban in 2006 in the Connacht final vs Brigids for coming onto the pitch during the game and having an altercation with a Brigids player???

Lord Ned Stark · 22-11-2011 10:44PM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

hold on.

Didn't the Corofin Club CHAIRMAN receive a ban in 2006 in the Connacht final vs Brigids for coming onto the pitch during the game and having an altercation with a Brigids player???

Yeah he did with Frankie Dolan

theoneeyedman · 22-11-2011 11:04PM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

I'm not sure how its sorted but it hasn't been neutral since atleast 2006

I think he probably means on a neutral ground in one of the the counties rather than on the actual home pitch of one of the finalists.

Well Kiltoom is recognised as a county ground I believe and the pitch is twice the quality of the Hyde and not too many pitches were playable at the weekend in Ross

Yes kiltoom is a recognized county venue for years now. This is a red Herring as I said earlier a similar incident occurred in one of the finest stadium in Europe, so the venue is irrelevant! Games in connacht have been played on a home and away basis for years. A great feature of the game on Sunday was a crowd of about 4000 in a well appointment compact ground. Bringing a game like this to bigger venues like a 30k capacity Hyde park would diminish the atmosphere and be a sop to hand wringing live liners and be a kick in the balls to progressive clubs

nice_guy80 · 22-11-2011 11:21PM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Yeah he did with Frankie Dolan

thought so.
That club seems to have discipline issues.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 23-11-2011 12:19AM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Well Kiltoom is recognised as a county ground I believe and the pitch is twice the quality of the Hyde and not too many pitches were playable at the weekend in Ross

yea good point, its a great pitch

Syferus · 23-11-2011 01:14AM

I thought the Corofin chairman had a brass neck saying Connacht finals should be played at neutral venues when it was his own team and supporters that caused the problem. From the above it sounds like he's not exactly the best source for advice on safety concerns.

howiya · 23-11-2011 02:19AM

Just got to look at tg4 player there this evening as I was out at another game on Sunday afternoon.

Behaviour of Corofin supporters after the final whistle is an absolute disgrace and hopefully the club will be severely punished by Connacht GAA.

On another note without suggesting that the match shouldn't have been played in Kiltoom because it is a fine venue the stewarding is very poor. No doubt owing to the stewards being club members rather than say the Roscommon county board asking all Hyde Park stewards to volunteer and let the local lads enjoy the match

Utopia Parkway · 23-11-2011 02:24PM

Syferus wrote: »

I thought the Corofin chairman had a brass neck saying Connacht finals should be played at neutral venues when it was his own team and supporters that caused the problem. From the above it sounds like he's not exactly the best source for advice on safety concerns.

In fairness the match stewards (Who are Brigid's men I presume) were so busy celebrating on the pitch with the players straight afterwards that most of them completely forgot about crowd control and the match officials. Another reason why club finals on a competing club's home pitch are far from ideal.

h2005 · 23-11-2011 02:34PM

markie29 wrote: »

players make far more mistakes in a game than any referee does.

Not this ref!

aidan24326 · 23-11-2011 05:18PM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

I was at the match and thought that he leaned a bit towards brigids however corofins were constantly dragging and hitting off the ball .
And could you give examples of the mind boggling ones because on review there doesnt seem to be any ?

There was one well into the second half that stuck in my mind, where the Brigid's players fouled both man and ball and the ref somehow decided it was a free in for them, which they scored. I did say in my previous post that I felt Brigids were marginally the better team overall, but refs don't help their own cause when they're guilty of getting decisions wrong and giving the appearance of leaning towards one team.

Madeline Future Predator wrote: »

On another note, i wonder why kiltoom was the venue for the match? I would have thought it should have been a neutural venue for a final like that. Were the other venues unplayable?

Should be a neutral venue I think. Home advantage in a game like that gives an unfair advantage. I don't know why they brought in that home and away rule. Admittedly it did lead to a better atmosphere than you'd have had in a bigger ground like Hyde Park.

homerjay2005 · 23-11-2011 06:58PM

is this being followed up by the GAA.

maybe if they throw the book at the club, the next time somebody sees a mob heading towards the ref, they will stop him and not join in.

from the last few posts here, it seems like this club has previous. they and several clubs need to be thought a lesson. the more the game is disected, the more it becomes apparent that the ref did not screw them over. more so, the decision to disallow the goal, appears by most neutrals to be the correct decision.

MfMan · 23-11-2011 09:29PM

No. From a neighbouring club of Corofin, and would be anti-them if anything. However, they're no worse and because they win an awful lot they're quite a lot better than most other clubs, i.e. they can accept defeat when it comes because they know they'll be in contention soon enough again anyway. You'd want the patience of a saint not to take umbrage at the John Denton-like performance of the referee last Sunday.

Brigids / Corofin have previous; in '06 then Chairman Jimmy Sice and Frankie Dolan were involved in a contre-temps, but Frankie would start an argument in an empty room anyway. They also played a challenge recently that was stormy AFAIK.

Utopia Parkway · 23-11-2011 09:37PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the more the game is disected, the more it becomes apparent that the ref did not screw them over. more so, the decision to disallow the goal, appears by most neutrals to be the correct decision.

Don't know about that now. Planety of neutrals still think it was a legitimate goal or that it was certainly debatable. I actually thought some of his decisions in the 2nd half were far more baffling. At least for the goal you could half understand what he might have been looking at (even then not consulting with the umpires who were a couple of yards away was a bit odd).

h2005 · 23-11-2011 09:50PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

is this being followed up by the GAA.

maybe if they throw the book at the club, the next time somebody sees a mob heading towards the ref, they will stop him and not join in.

from the last few posts here, it seems like this club has previous. they and several clubs need to be thought a lesson. the more the game is disected, the more it becomes apparent that the ref did not screw them over. more so, the decision to disallow the goal, appears by most neutrals to be the correct decision.

Every neutral I have spoken to have said it was a good goal. This ref should really be reffing junior matches how do you not even consult your umpires? The ref didn`t screw them he`s just inept

theoneeyedman · 23-11-2011 09:56PM

Re: Neutral ground. Connacht championship games are always played in the participating counties on alternate occasions, i.e. next time Ros and Galway senior clubs meet it will be in Galway. 'Home' clubs are free to nominate an approved county ground, in Roscommon's case either Dr Hyde Park of Kiltoom, and (formerly but i don't think anymore) Elphin. Kiltoom has hosted many National League games in the past and if memory serves me right Castlerea played their connacht senior championship game there a few years back. It would be strange in these circumstances for them to not be allowed to play last Sunday's game there. Where should it have been played? Perhaps if the Connacht council Henchmen on Saturday/Sunday were less concerned about how the Bridgets club were managing the bar/Social club opening hours they might have been able to see possible flaws in the stewarding. This is a red herring!

Duckworth_Luas · 23-11-2011 10:13PM

theoneeyedman wrote: »

This is a red herring!

Total red herring. Nobody from Corofin complained about the Galway county final against Tuam Stars being played in Tuam Stadium. Perhaps they might have though had they lost that one.

deeno1975 · 23-11-2011 10:24PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

theoneeyedman wrote: »

This is a red herring!

Total red herring. Nobody from Corofin complained about the Galway county final against Tuam Stars being played in Tuam Stadium. Perhaps they might have though had they lost that one.

Not a fair point, Tuam Stars home pitch is not Tuam Stadium. They have their own pitch. Tuam stadium is a neutral venue.

headmaster · 23-11-2011 10:54PM

deeno1975 wrote: »

Not a fair point, Tuam Stars home pitch is not Tuam Stadium. They have their own pitch. Tuam stadium is a neutral venue.

Absolute bullsh1t, they might have another pitch, but don't come out with that drivel.

Fact is, Corofin got their butts kicked fair and square, they got it kicked last year as well and just cannot accept that they're not up to it. Ballintubber, the Mayo co champions should have beaten them. They got further than they should have, so go away, lick the wounds and accept that they're not capable for this higher standard. BTW, get rid of the offensive hierarchy they have in the corofin club before they bring everyone down to their level, if it's not too late already. It's a good club, with some bad apples too near the top. Get the bad apples out and see the tree flourish, I hope the club does.

deeno1975 · 23-11-2011 11:13PM

headmaster wrote: »

deeno1975 wrote: »

Not a fair point, Tuam Stars home pitch is not Tuam Stadium. They have their own pitch. Tuam stadium is a neutral venue.

Absolute bullsh1t, they might have another pitch, but don't come out with that drivel.

Fact is, Corofin got their butts kicked fair and square, they got it kicked last year as well and just cannot accept that they're not up to it. Ballintubber, the Mayo co champions should have beaten them. They got further than they should have, so go away, lick the wounds and accept that they're not capable for this higher standard. BTW, get rid of the offensive hierarchy they have in the corofin club before they bring everyone down to their level, if it's not too late already. It's a good club, with some bad apples too near the top. Get the bad apples out and see the tree flourish, I hope the club does.

You seem to have alot of issues there, Corofin must have dished a few beatings out to you. Go back to your keyboard and tap them really hard.

Ballintubber were a joke as was the Ballina referee. Common thread running there!

h2005 · 23-11-2011 11:29PM

headmaster wrote: »

Absolute bullsh1t, they might have another pitch, but don't come out with that drivel.

Fact is, Corofin got their butts kicked fair and square, they got it kicked last year as well and just cannot accept that they're not up to it. Ballintubber, the Mayo co champions should have beaten them. They got further than they should have, so go away, lick the wounds and accept that they're not capable for this higher standard. BTW, get rid of the offensive hierarchy they have in the corofin club before they bring everyone down to their level, if it's not too late already. It's a good club, with some bad apples too near the top. Get the bad apples out and see the tree flourish, I hope the club does.

What is bull**** about it? Tuam stadium would be as much a home venue for Corofin as it would be for Tuam

headmaster · 23-11-2011 11:37PM

deeno 1975,
the truth hurts, doesn't it. Corofin have made no friends with their attitude and terrible behaviour. One good person stood up and was counted, Ray Silke, easy known where he learned his manners, his football and his honesty. As for Corofin dishing out a few beatings to me in my time, I played with them for years dear boy, but i'm ashamed of some of them over the last few years. This is not a one off. As mentioned previously, some of the top table should go and those who don't have the guts to stand up and apologise should do the same. If you're a Corofin man with any principal, you would feel the same. You win, you win. You get beat, you get beat. Good luck to St Bridget's. End of.

headmaster · 23-11-2011 11:40PM

h2005 wrote: »

What is bull**** about it? Tuam stadium would be as much a home venue for Corofin as it would be for Tuam

That was not my point at all, I agree with you.

red bull · 24-11-2011 03:43PM

I started this,it has gone allover the place on comments. The ref got it wrong, a small minority of the supporters over reacted and did wrong. Im quite sure the club will suffer for their actions. Will there be any action on the serious mistakes by the referee, somehow I dont think so. Its over we move on and hope for better

Caiseoipe19 · 24-11-2011 03:56PM

Okay I didn't actually get to watch the match the last day but I've had this referee a few times so I'll give my opinion of him as a referee...

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

I was wondering if the ref was going to allow play to continue indefinitely until Corofin scored an equaliser. The problem was that no Corofin player had the balls to take that score.

Funny you should say that...we had the same referee for an u21 county final this year and he played up on 7mins injury time even though there should have only been two to three mins. Even the fact that he told a player that his free kink would be the last play of the game, he let play go on for another few mins. We lost after the opposition scored a free with the last kick of the game.

He also refereed the Mayo Intermediate final and was very good in that game...based on the few games I've seen him referee he is a good referee for the most part...but I can't forgive or understand why he screwed us over in the u21 game.

bruschi · 24-11-2011 04:10PM

red bull wrote: »

I started this,it has gone allover the place on comments. The ref got it wrong, a small minority of the supporters over reacted and did wrong. Im quite sure the club will suffer for their actions. Will there be any action on the serious mistakes by the referee, somehow I dont think so. Its over we move on and hope for better

doesnt sound like moving on, more like being bitter. The game was there for Corofin, and they blew it themselves. The ref was made a scapegoat. They had lots of time to equalise, and couldnt do it.

What 'action' do you think should be taken with the ref?

What 'serious mistakes' did he make?

red bull · 24-11-2011 04:23PM

They had lots of time to equalise, and couldnt do it

AGREED

headmaster · 24-11-2011 06:41PM

Wow, it's even gone into the Mayo gaa now, with some clubman ("Cygnus") or other now blaming the referee for losing a match for them as well. The club in question have had a good year because none of this sour grapes stuff is allowed on the agenda, a good Galway coach has seen to this. Perhaps Cygnus might remember that when blaming others for losing matches. Sometimes you get the run of luck, other times you don't, simples. Accept results, congratulate the winners, stop the bullsh1t. Now, we'll wait for the GAA powers that be to seriously penalise Corofin, also it would be good to see the good people involved in the Corofin club taking steps to get these club people to step down from all involvement in affairs. They're not needed, or wanted, in modern day football, there are many more good decent people ready and willing to take Corofin to further glories. Now's the time for these people to be given the reins.

fair play for ever · 24-11-2011 11:29PM

headmaster wrote: »

, also it would be good to see the good people involved in the Corofin club taking steps to get these club people to step down from all involvement in affairs. They're not needed, or wanted, in modern day football, there are many more good decent people ready and willing to take Corofin to further glories. Now's the time for these people to be given the reins.

I see in this weeks Tuam Herald that they have an agm coming up,Take it you will organise a nomination for yourself:):)

headmaster · 25-11-2011 12:19AM

fair play for ever wrote: »

I see in this weeks Tuam Herald that they have an agm coming up,Take it you will organise a nomination for yourself:):)

Been there and done all that. Hope that makes you wiser after your 1st sarcastic post.

MfMan · 25-11-2011 12:26AM

headmaster wrote: »

Wow, it's even gone into the Mayo gaa now, with some clubman ("Cygnus") or other now blaming the referee for losing a match for them as well. The club in question have had a good year because none of this sour grapes stuff is allowed on the agenda, a good Galway coach has seen to this. Perhaps Cygnus might remember that when blaming others for losing matches. Sometimes you get the run of luck, other times you don't, simples. Accept results, congratulate the winners, stop the bullsh1t. Now, we'll wait for the GAA powers that be to seriously penalise Corofin, also it would be good to see the good people involved in the Corofin club taking steps to get these club people to step down from all involvement in affairs. They're not needed, or wanted, in modern day football, there are many more good decent people ready and willing to take Corofin to further glories. Now's the time for these people to be given the reins.

What are you blathering about? You seem to imply that it was a cabal of club officers that surrounded the referee and gave him grief. What about the supporters? Do these also have to 'step down from all involvement in affairs'? You must think that the Corofin top brass are a sinister mob, constantly out for imtimidating match officials in order to suit themselves, a-la Alex Ferguson. The scenes last Sunday were a once-off by a set of justifiably very aggrieved fans.

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