corofin gaa

theoneeyedman · 21-11-2011 08:25AM

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

Yeah was reading that last week, it's a pity. If I was the new Roscommon manager I would be doing everything in my power to get him back.

He was not able to behave himself the last time he was on the Roscommon panel and thats why he was fcuked off of it and has not beend
back since. He was at the same craic for his own club too least people forget and was sent packing from there too. He played a couple of seasons with different clubs in Longford and Westmeath because his own club wanted nothing to do with him. Its only in the past few years he was allowed back. Ask Anthony Cunningham what he thinks of Frankie.

He is no loss to the county panel given what went on previously. He has had plenty of chances and far too much history now. Leave him where he is in Kiltoom playing for Brigids. He is doing a fine job for them these days and let Roscommon get on with bringing through new younger talent.

Frankie returned to the panel 2 or 3 years ago wihuout incident. He also played 1 year in ballymahon with his uncle Des and never in westmeath. Never let the facts get in the way of a good rant!

Peace · 21-11-2011 11:07AM

I only saw tha last few minutes and the scenes where the ref needed to be escorted off the pitch were disgracful.

The GAA must put better measures in to protect the referee fromt he crowd. Its only a matter of time before someone gets badly hurt.

There have been too many examples of this over the past few years and it seems to be an increasing trend. Also the fact that someone got their ear bitten off in Tyrone recently shows that the GAA crowds are devolving.

elguapo · 21-11-2011 01:33PM

aidan24326 wrote: »

Overall I thought the better team won, just about. The Corofin supporters didn't do themselves any favours at the end but I can see why they were pissed off, the referee was awful and he didn't do himself any favours. Some of his decisions were puzzling to put it mildly. At one stage in the second half Brigids fouled the man and the ball and somehow ended up having a free in. I don't like to see refs getting abused but if you perform that badly you're asking for it, and I thought the ref today was terrible.

This is classic GAA supporter stuff.

"It was terrible to see the ref getting verbally abused by those guys, but it's his own fault."

I play GAA, I love GAA, but the attitude of supporters towards referees is awful, there's no respect there. Referees have bad days, and there are decision we don't like, but there's no excuse for the level of verbal abuse that man was subjected to yesterday.

markie29 · 21-11-2011 01:58PM

elguapo wrote: »

This is classic GAA supporter stuff.

"It was terrible to see the ref getting verbally abused by those guys, but it's his own fault."

I play GAA, I love GAA, but the attitude of supporters towards referees is awful, there's no respect there. Referees have bad days, and there are decision we don't like, but there's no excuse for the level of verbal abuse that man was subjected to yesterday.

players make far more mistakes in a game than any referee does.

headmaster · 21-11-2011 02:24PM

I've seen Corofin win games they shouldn't have, thanks to refereeing decisions. What goes around comes around. The Corofin supporters were wrong in what they got involved in after the match, but the referee was never physically abused. It's not too late for the people in charge of the Corofin GAA club to issue an apology, to the referee, the St Bridgets club, the supporters, the GAA, the young players from all over that were at the match, their families, their children and everyone else and say it in such a way that they really mean it. It would go some way to make up for their bad sportsmanship, their terrible example, their language, their total lack of manners. Some of the players and supporters that were not involved should be seen to stand up and condemn it as well.

hisholinessnb · 21-11-2011 02:47PM

I don't know how many times when this crap happens people come on saying it was wrong but somehow "understandable" due to poor refereeing.

This is a huge cop out, no matter how bad you think the referee was, this behaviour is NOT acceptable. Ever.

blackbelt · 21-11-2011 04:12PM

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Ref unbeliveably crap, some Corofin supporters unbelievably crap, home club stewards unbelievably crap....they should have surrounded the ref at full time and marched the dopey cnut straight off the pitch.That would have taken about 1 minute but they started celebrating and yahooing instead of stewarding.

Only good things were Frankie Dolan who took his chances and the volunteers who did the stewards job and got that dopey cnut off the pitch for them. He should never ref anything again outside of Mayo after that.

GAA needs head stewards with designated duties and responsibilities. If they fail their club should suffer ....like playing in empty grounds for a month or three. Oh and ban the Corofin yahoos who swung at anyone of course and bring them to court and fine the bejaysus out of them .

Banned for a month.

Whatever your feelings are towards the referee,there is no need for that foul and abusive language around here.

mosstin · 21-11-2011 06:09PM

ontheditch2 wrote: »

Whats your point??
What do you consider a "Hard line"?
You making sweeping statements here and no substance.

No substance? Which part didn't you understand? The GAA has long since had a tradition of post-match pitch invasions by an angry throng seeking out the scapegoat in black. No referees, no match, simple as that. Refs need to be protected in all codes - especially GAA matches - and if that means bringing people in to line through the courts then that's what should be done. It's assault or attempted assault and if it happened anywhere but the football pitch it would be treated as such. That's what I mean about a 'hard line'.

homerjay2005 · 21-11-2011 06:28PM

i came on here to start a thread about what happened and at the top of the pile i see "corofin", so i think "oh great, its already there".

but instead of seeing the expected lashing of the thuggish behavior of a select few, i am shocked to see somebody not even mention it. on top of that, all the op does is to bemoan the goal that wasnt give.

and that, in one post, sums up the vile, viscious and backwards nature the is ruining the game in this country. i am as big a fan of the gaa as anybody on here. i take alot of stick from my dublin based anti gaa colleagues who dismiss the game as one played and more so followed, by neanderthals.

with every passing incident, i am beginning to think they are right. year after year, high profile incident after another are happening and it mostly happens in the bigger club scene. refs are being abused left right and center and the gaa is standing by and letting it happen. why oh why was that game yesterday, not played on an enclosed pitch? that is step one, step 2 is court action and life time bannings from members of the associated clubs.

corofin should be fined 5000 for this as has been a precedent in some counties before.next time they play a game, their fans may bahave better. f*ck this craic where people excuse it as "sure they have nothing to do with the club", yes they do, they are the ones who are supporting the teams and if they cant behave themselves, then the club should suffer too. that is the only way clubs will rid this element from the game and its about time, clubs are held responsible. another sad day for the game, it doesnt happen in other games in any form as near as much as the gaa.

and how sad is it to see people on here, same as the clowns from louth last year, totally ignore it and deem it to be justified.

its time for the gaa to finally make a stance against gaa thugs. and for what its worth, if they are complaining over the square ball, i felt it was 50-50 and alot of refs would have given it. they were in control of the game at that stage and left it slip.

i didnt see all the game, but i am sure the ref was bad for both teams.

mosstin · 21-11-2011 06:48PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i came on here to start a thread about what happened and at the top of the pile i see "corofin", so i think "oh great, its already there".

but instead of seeing the expected lashing of the thuggish behavior of a select few, i am shocked to see somebody not even mention it. on top of that, all the op does is to bemoan the goal that wasnt give.

and that, in one post, sums up the vile, viscious and backwards nature the is ruining the game in this country. i am as big a fan of the gaa as anybody on here. i take alot of stick from my dublin based anti gaa colleagues who dismiss the game as one played and more so followed, by neanderthals.

with every passing incident, i am beginning to think they are right. year after year, high profile incident after another are happening and it mostly happens in the bigger club scene. refs are being abused left right and center and the gaa is standing by and letting it happen. why oh why was that game yesterday, not played on an enclosed pitch? that is step one, step 2 is court action and life time bannings from members of the associated clubs.

corofin should be fined 5000 for this as has been a precedent in some counties before.next time they play a game, their fans may bahave better. f*ck this craic where people excuse it as "sure they have nothing to do with the club", yes they do, they are the ones who are supporting the teams and if they cant behave themselves, then the club should suffer too. that is the only way clubs will rid this element from the game and its about time, clubs are held responsible. another sad day for the game, it doesnt happen in other games in any form as near as much as the gaa.

and how sad is it to see people on here, same as the clowns from louth last year, totally ignore it and deem it to be justified.

its time for the gaa to finally make a stance against gaa thugs. and for what its worth, if they are complaining over the square ball, i felt it was 50-50 and alot of refs would have given it. they were in control of the game at that stage and left it slip.

i didnt see all the game, but i am sure the ref was bad for both teams.

Not sure if you've read the thread but several posters have alluded to the violence after the match.

forfcksake · 21-11-2011 07:47PM

it was a disgrace what they did to the ref, he was fair on both sides, Corofin fouled more therefore Brigids got more frees! just because he gave Brigids more frees doesn't mean he sided with them and he got the goal call right in my opinion it was square ball & he jumped up on the full backs back which was a free out anyway

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homerjay2005 · 21-11-2011 07:50PM

forfcksake wrote: »

it was a disgrace what they did to the ref, he was fair on both sides, Corofin fouled more therefore Brigids got more frees! just because he gave Brigids more frees doesn't mean he sided with them and he got the goal call right in my opinion it was square ball & he jumped up on the full backs back which was a free out anyway

that appears to be as blatant a square ball as you will find. what do the corofin boys make of that then?

mosstin wrote: »

Not sure if you've read the thread but several posters have alluded to the violence after the match.

im talking about the man who started the thread.

rpurfield · 21-11-2011 08:10PM

i used to referee and to be honest this sort of **** is one of the reasons im glad i quit.i sent a guy off in an u21 final a few years back for breaking a lads jaw with a swing of an elbow,two of my brothers happen to live in the area of the team i supposedly wronged and neighbours of theirs were hunting me down at a do for one of my brothers that i couldnt make.i also had parents have goes at me for having the gall to send off their sons for fighting(one was a former inter county ref, even made the back page of the indo at the time).

for all this im glad im out of it especially when you see the rubbish that goes on now like this and the stuff in tyrone etc.ive two young kids now im still young enough to play if id the time and to be honest couldve made it to inter county reffing if i put in the effort but im glad now i didnt because i couldnt subject my family to the sort of rubbish lads get for going out and refereeing a sport they no doubtedly care about.people give out about the standard of reffing but its never going to improve because lads that are reasonably fit and are able to keep a clear head in situations where everyone else is heated(essential on the pitch if you ask me) are going to reason that its not worth being abused and possibly physically attacked on the field.

no doubt some of these corofin fans wont be members of the club,thats always the defence in these cases but names should be got and they should be banned from every gaa ground for a few years.the powers in croker need to get tough or noone will be refereeing games in a few years

Utopia Parkway · 21-11-2011 08:46PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

that appears to be as blatant a square ball as you will find. what do the corofin boys make of that then?

Looking at that the ball is already well inside the box dropping down. You would have to take it back a bit as the player is allowed to arrive at the same time as the ball.

And in fairness the square ball was only one of a multitude of bad decisons. I actually think it was more the refereeing in the 2nd half that was so frustrating for the crowd.

theoneeyedman · 21-11-2011 08:52PM

Someone mentioned why was game not played on an 'enclosed pitch '? There is a 4 ft high fence around pitch and the suitability of kiltoom should not come into this. If lads want to act the bo/lix they will regardless of the venue as demonstrated in the case of Mr sludden in Croker last year.
The ref wasn't faultless but IMO he wasn't the worse I've seen. I was on kiltoom as a neutral and the abuse he was getting from galwaymen for correct decisions was very bad. In keeping with a lot of big clubs (and I'd include St Bridget's in this) they are used to bullying refs and getting the big calls in their favour and like spoiled kids they couldn't handle it when they were pulled on yesterday. I'm old enough to be scarred by refs favouring galway teams over the years (I'm looking at you Mr prior) so I'd say to corofin "suck it up lads! "

padd b1975 · 21-11-2011 09:03PM

Fair play to Shane Curran for stepping in to protect the ref.
He cleared out about 40 Corofin supporters without so much as raising his hands.

He just swung his massive hooter in their direction.

Lord Ned Stark · 21-11-2011 09:15PM

Honestly watched the match back again this evening on Sky Plus thought the ref was even enough on both sides disected all the frees given and only two weren't actually frees Senan Kilbride kicked one wide and the other was at midfield and as for the goal watched it over and over again paused it at many different times and it looks like it was a square ball and IMO he fouled number 3 anyway

theoneeyedman · 21-11-2011 10:29PM

Good to see balanced post match analysis on Galway bay TV TG4 just now.....all both managers were asked about in edited package was the referee's performance!?! Give it a rest boys:o

forfcksake · 22-11-2011 12:22AM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Honestly watched the match back again this evening on Sky Plus thought the ref was even enough on both sides disected all the frees given and only two weren't actually frees Senan Kilbride kicked one wide and the other was at midfield and as for the goal watched it over and over again paused it at many different times and it looks like it was a square ball and IMO he fouled number 3 anyway

Did the same & came away with the exact same thoughts, actually thought he reffed it very well, just very much to the book but that's what he is suppose to do

homerjay2005 · 22-11-2011 12:23AM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Looking at that the ball is already well inside the box dropping down. You would have to take it back a bit as the player is allowed to arrive at the same time as the ball.

you cannot say that for 100%, the ball is well in the air and it not conclusive. if we cant agree with a still shot, how is the ref supposed to know in live action with the ball travelling at full speed?

the more i look at this, the more appalled i am. if the ref let people away with thing, they would be moaning, gives out cards they would be moaning too.

it brings me back to the WC final, when i thought howard webb was top class, yet people slagged him cos he handed out 12 cards. when the players want to act like hatchet men, what can he do. maybe he shouldnt have booked so many players,but i think the reaction of the corofin supporters was a disgrace.

he got one decision wrong, which was to leave de jong on the pitch, but you can understand that he didnt want to send somebody off so early in the match.

Syferus · 22-11-2011 12:26AM

The footage was as conclusive as I've seen with a square ball controversy and he decked his defender with his elbow so no, there's not much to debate about the referee's decision on that play.

Strongbow10 · 22-11-2011 02:57AM

lads whats the specific rule on the square ball?

if the ref blew for a foul he got it wrong, the brigids goalkeeper fell and injured his own defender if ya look at it again.

does the forward have to be in the square when the ball is kicked into him first?

aidan24326 · 22-11-2011 03:01AM

The Corofin supporters shouldn't have done what they did but it doesn't change the fact that the ref had a bad day at the office. All you ask of a ref is that he be fair and in in this case I don't think that happened. A couple of his decisions were mind boggling. I'm not a Corofin man so I'm not biased but I do think they have cause to feel robbed.

Lord Ned Stark · 22-11-2011 09:13AM

aidan24326 wrote: »

The Corofin supporters shouldn't have done what they did but it doesn't change the fact that the ref had a bad day at the office. All you ask of a ref is that he be fair and in in this case I don't think that happened. A couple of his decisions were mind boggling. I'm not a Corofin man so I'm not biased but I do think they have cause to feel robbed.

I was at the match and thought that he leaned a bit towards brigids however corofins were constantly dragging and hitting off the ball .
And could you give examples of the mind boggling ones because on review there doesnt seem to be any ?

rossie1977 · 22-11-2011 02:41PM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

lads whats the specific rule on the square ball?

if the player is in the square before the ball arrives in the square its a free-out

galwayboss · 22-11-2011 04:58PM

Its not the first time corofin supporters attacked a ref after the u21 co final in 1996 after being defeted by Killanin a number of supporters attacked the ref and a umpire got struck on the same occasion aswell

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 22-11-2011 06:53PM

Kojak wrote: »

I don't condone the scenes at the final whistle, but its a wonder he blew up the match when he was in the middle of the field. Why not blow the final whistle when he was near the sideline. Surely he should have copped what the feeling of the players/supporters would have been feeling, and tried to avoid that. It showed a lack of common sense/realism imo.

If the ref has to think of his position of the field at the end of a game, incase he gets a punch from the loosing supporters, i think the GAA has a massive problem on their hands. This is twice within 17 months this has happened on live tv.

My club won a underage connaght final around years ago by a point, the ref was surrounded after the game by parents for "not playing enough injury time". Hardly a great example to be setting to an underage team. The GAA really need to stamp this out

On another note, i wonder why kiltoom was the venue for the match? I would have thought it should have been a neutural venue for a final like that. Were the other venues unplayable?

Lord Ned Stark · 22-11-2011 07:42PM

Madeline Future Predator wrote: »

Kojak wrote: »

I don't condone the scenes at the final whistle, but its a wonder he blew up the match when he was in the middle of the field. Why not blow the final whistle when he was near the sideline. Surely he should have copped what the feeling of the players/supporters would have been feeling, and tried to avoid that. It showed a lack of common sense/realism imo.

If the ref has to think of his position of the field at the end of a game, incase he gets a punch from the loosing supporters, i think the GAA has a massive problem on their hands. This is twice within 17 months this has happened on live tv.

My club won a underage connaght final around years ago by a point, the ref was surrounded after the game by parents for "not playing enough injury time". Hardly a great example to be setting to an underage team. The GAA really need to stamp this out

On another note, i wonder why kiltoom was the venue for the match? I would have thought it should have been a neutural venue for a final like that. Were the other venues unplayable?

I'm not sure how its sorted but it hasn't been neutral since atleast 2006

Utopia Parkway · 22-11-2011 08:56PM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

I'm not sure how its sorted but it hasn't been neutral since atleast 2006

I think he probably means on a neutral ground in one of the the counties rather than on the actual home pitch of one of the finalists.

Lord Ned Stark · 22-11-2011 09:53PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

I'm not sure how its sorted but it hasn't been neutral since atleast 2006

I think he probably means on a neutral ground in one of the the counties rather than on the actual home pitch of one of the finalists.

Well Kiltoom is recognised as a county ground I believe and the pitch is twice the quality of the Hyde and not too many pitches were playable at the weekend in Ross

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