Passat 1.6FSI or 1.4 TSI or anything bigger?

bittihuduga · 25-09-2011 09:50AM #1

hi
in the market for a car. i have come down to Passat (purely on the decision from heart rather than brain).
looking for something 2007 and later and petrol only
i can see plenty of 1.6FSI engines.
searched through this boards forum and have seen not many good comments on it. :-( big car with small engine.
should i go for 1.8FSI or bigger?
or should i try for 1.4 TSI which has very good reviews with its Turbo engine which has fixed many of FSI defects.
also there are very few TSIs and are nearly 10k+ in price.

what about mileage on these cars?
there are 2008 cars with 190k kms. how can one drive so much in 3 years???

166man · 25-09-2011 10:04AM

There are not too many TSI engines around I think due to high demand, however there are quite a few of the 2.0 FSI engines around if tax isn't a big problem, although I have heard from people that he 1.6 is acceptable...

As for 190k km It's only about 40k miles a year which isn't too bad, could be reps driving length and breath of the country on a weekly basis. Nice car to do 190k km in though.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/VW-PASSA/201136204376653/advert?channel=CARS

bittihuduga · 25-09-2011 10:19AM

thanks for the guidance.
i believe that big motorway mileage with good handling of car is better than small city mileage with rough driving.
what kind of mileage is acceptable on a passat?
are there any known FSI problems other than small engine in big car?

L-M · 25-09-2011 10:57AM

My dad has one from 06-10, put 29,000kms on it. I drove it a good bit and found it grand. He has a 1.4 TSI and it's a better engine alright.

I wouldn't bother with a 07 2.0, they're a 150 bhp engine and I can't imagine them to have a good resale value in a few years time.

EPM · 25-09-2011 11:02AM

I've driven a few rental 1.4tsi Passats for about a thousand miles in total and never found them wanting for power. Can easily keep up with traffic and not too uneconomical driven sensibly. Feels livelier than my fathers 2 litre petrol Mondeo despite it having 20bhp more.

pajo1981 · 25-09-2011 11:08AM

From my ownership experience, the 1.6 FSI is a dog. Avoid.

-Corkie- · 25-09-2011 12:47PM

Get the 1.4 tsi. The 2.0/1.8/1.6 fsi are only pigs of things.

166man · 25-09-2011 01:33PM

Would a 1.4 TSI come under the OP's budget which I'm guessing is around 10k..

bittihuduga · 25-09-2011 01:42PM

166man wrote: »

Would a 1.4 TSI come under the OP's budget which I'm guessing is around 10k..

as of now, NO as my budget is 8k.

i heard the similar(negative reviews) on 1.6 Mondeo Zetec (new model) too.
i don't know why these car makers make these small engines :-(

si_guru · 25-09-2011 01:45PM

bittihuduga wrote: »

..i don't know why these car makers make these small engines :-(

Road tax.

166man · 25-09-2011 01:51PM

bittihuduga wrote: »

as of now, NO as my budget is 8k.

i heard the similar(negative reviews) on 1.6 Mondeo Zetec (new model) too.
i don't know why these car makers make these small engines :-(

Yeah not sure if you will find a 1.4 TSI for 8k... There are plenty of nice cars out there for 8k though!

bittihuduga · 25-09-2011 02:12PM

166man wrote: »

Yeah not sure if you will find a 1.4 TSI for 8k... There are plenty of nice cars out there for 8k though!

if you don't mind, can you please share some suggestions?

166man · 25-09-2011 02:20PM

bittihuduga wrote: »

if you don't mind, can you please share some suggestions?

You would like a petrol family saloon then with low enough tax, that right?

Something maybe like this it is a bit older though

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/C-Class/C180-AUT/131677114679137/advert?channel=CARS

bazz26 · 25-09-2011 03:12PM

Passat 1.4 TSi has a turbo and produces 122bhp. That engine is well able to move the Passat around. It replaced the 1.6 FSi which had only 115bhp. The 1.6 FSi engine was not great and really had a short shelf life in the VAG range. If looking at the 2.0 FSi just remember there is very little market for these cars in this country and they are hard to sell on, so be prepared to keep it until it dies.

Also take note that the B6 Passat suffered from alot of problems that were not really ironed out until early 2008 so 2008 should be the minimum you should be looking at. BTW you will not buy a decent 1.4 TSi Passat for €8k.

bittihuduga · 25-09-2011 06:56PM

what are your thoughts on the below? anything to look out for?
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/PASSAT-B/201135204252519/advert?channel=CARS
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/1.4-TSI-/131159952887249/advert?channel=CARS

-Corkie- · 25-09-2011 07:00PM

bittihuduga wrote: »

what are your thoughts on the below? anything to look out for?
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/PASSAT-B/201135204252519/advert?channel=CARS
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/1.4-TSI-/131159952887249/advert?channel=CARS

The second one is the base model which is poverty spec. I would have the 1.8 if the tax isnt crazy on it. On second thoughts the mileage is crazy.

L-M · 25-09-2011 09:31PM

The 1.8 looks like something that was run by a fleet company, ie. Properly maintained. Can't see any major issue once you get a warranty and the tax is cheap.

As for the BOG spec 1.4... LOL

bittihuduga · 26-09-2011 10:40AM

bittihuduga wrote: »

what are your thoughts on the below? anything to look out for?
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/PASSAT-B/201135204252519/advert?channel=CARS
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/1.4-TSI-/131159952887249/advert?channel=CARS

is this any good compared to the above?
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2207256

166man · 26-09-2011 02:58PM

bittihuduga wrote: »

is this any good compared to the above?
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2207256

To me it looks expensive for what it is though I don't know what they cost new.. It's still the most basic Mondeo that's near 5 years old with more than 100k miles on it... pricey.

bittihuduga · 26-09-2011 04:27PM

thanks for the views 166man.
the problem is all those mondeos/passats are pricey :-(
its difficult to find a low mileage car within the budget

166man · 26-09-2011 04:34PM

bittihuduga wrote: »

thanks for the views 166man.
the problem is all those mondeos/passats are pricey :-(
its difficult to find a low mileage car within the budget

This is a bit left field and the tax might be a bit high but a fine car nonetheless

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2535131

Zonda999 · 26-09-2011 05:43PM

Lads, why were some people diss'ing the 1.8TSi earlier in th thread? Afaik, that engine only launched in late 2006, does it have reliability issues or whatever. I ask, because I've driven that engine twice, both in Octavia's. Always thought it was a lovely engine, very very quiet for a petrol and not as bad on fuel as a 160bhp petrol would suggest

bittihuduga · 26-09-2011 11:20PM

166man wrote: »

This is a bit left field and the tax might be a bit high but a fine car nonetheless

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2535131

thats very cheap for that mileage.
how can i know if the mileage is genuine and not clocked?

VolvoMan · 26-09-2011 11:48PM

166man wrote: »

This is a bit left field and the tax might be a bit high but a fine car nonetheless

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2535131

+1

Excellent car.

Pisses all over the Passat. It's just the general Irish public are too stupid to know.

L-M · 26-09-2011 11:56PM

Of course it pisses all over the Passat, it's a much bigger, turbo'd version that cost alot more and is now worth even less than an equivalent Passat!

VolvoMan · 27-09-2011 12:01AM

Limerick man wrote: »

Of course it pisses all over the Passat, it's a much bigger, turbo'd version that cost alot more and is now worth even less than an equivalent Passat!

It was 35k new and is smaller than a Passat in overall length (after checking there very quickly, it is in fact over 100mm shorter). These were also turbocharged throughout the range.

I think you're thinking this is an S80.

166man · 27-09-2011 12:05AM

bittihuduga wrote: »

thats very cheap for that mileage.
how can i know if the mileage is genuine and not clocked?

I think you can run a motorcheck on it online or cartell. Or just read the service history carefully...:)

L-M · 27-09-2011 12:07AM

VolvoMan wrote: »

It was 35k new and is smaller than a Passat in overall length (after checking there very quickly, it is in fact over 100mm shorter).

I think you're thinking this is an S80.

That was 35k new? Even with the leather etc.? Jesus... Not bad value, pity it was a really old design in 06. Still looking lovely now, though.

VolvoMan · 27-09-2011 12:10AM

Limerick man wrote: »

That was 35k new? Even with the leather etc.? Jesus... Not bad value, pity it was a really old design in 06. Still looking lovely now, though.

They came down to 35k around '06 for the standard 2.0T S.

I'd still say that particular one was a bit less than 40k brand new. I think SE spec only added about 2-3k to the price.

166man · 27-09-2011 12:20AM

If that car was infact 35k new then may I reiterate my original post and say that it looks like excellent value for money and yes I second the 'pisses on a passat' statement..:D

VolvoMan · 27-09-2011 12:28AM

166man wrote: »

If that car was infact 35k new then may I reiterate my original post and say that it looks like excellent value for money and yes I second the 'pisses on a passat' statement..:D

They were indeed.

Sure I remember it was one of the reasons my father backed out of buying an 18 month old T5; it was priced more than a brand new 2.0T.

People probably remember that up until quite recently, SE spec in Volvo's got you leather and everything for a minimum outlay. It was a major selling point.

Passat 1.6FSI or 1.4 TSI or anything bigger?

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