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My latest arrival which I only got my hands on today.Two SMLE's,both made by Enfield with one dated 1916 which is a Mark III* without cut off plate and the other 1912.The 1912 rifle is the one on the bottom of the pic and as can be seen this one which is the Mark III has the cut off plate later done away with during the first world war only to be reinstated after wars end,also I would say this rifle is roughly about an inch longer in overall length than the other.The 1912 is marked for drill practise whilst the other I believe to have been reissued to the Indian Army sometime after WW1,on the opposite side of the rifle(not pictured)has a strengthening screw half way down the stock which was common practise for the Indian Army.
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Hey guys i am looking into starting collecting deacts myself and could use some helpful info iv called the district superintendent as it stated on the Department of Justice website that i need written authorisation of the local superintendent.
He told me that i should write out a letter explaining what it is i am planning on doing and either drop it into the local barracks or post it in and that they will have a look over it.
What it is i need help with is what do i write in the letter do i just mention that i would like to start collecting ww2 deactivated firearms and would like his permission to do also is there a form needed if i want to buy deacts from germany as iv seen alot of good condition ones at good prices over there..
All help appreciated
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Sorry to hear that. Sometimes there is a way of placating the Super if you are a serious collector and show him/her that you take security serious. I know of people who only got permission for deacts after they put similar security arrangements in place as if they have active firearms on the premises, i.e. house alarm and gun safe for all deacts.
Aw i tried my best with it and it was still not good enough i was talking to him for nearly 45min i explained that i was willing to invest in gun safes and i have an alarm on the house.
He started with why i was interested in collecting militaria and i explained that i had an interest in it from a young age as a lot of my family were in it and that i like to own a part of history then i was asked to tell all my knowledge of ww1 and what weapons they used then it went onto ww2 and what weapons each side used.
He also asked me if i had gone to the IMWM and i said i had and he asked what it was like as he has an interest in militaria himself but has not got a chance to visit it then he came to a decision that because they have expensive insurance and top of the line security that he has to refuse me because of the type of firearm it is and that if any one got there hands on it people would think its real as its very intimidating looking it was a PPS43 that i was looking at getting as my first but it looks like it will never be
He apologised to me for not been able to grant me permission as he believes i have a great interest in the military and that i should keep my interest going that there are other ways of doing it besides collecting firearms but to be honest it was a right kick been turned down 0 -
Aw i tried my best with it and it was still not good enough i was talking to him for nearly 45min i explained that i was willing to invest in gun safes and i have an alarm on the house.
He started with why i was interested in collecting militaria and i explained that i had an interest in it from a young age as a lot of my family were in it and that i like to own a part of history then i was asked to tell all my knowledge of ww1 and what weapons they used then it went onto ww2 and what weapons each side used.
He also asked me if i had gone to the IMWM and i said i had and he asked what it was like as he has an interest in militaria himself but has not got a chance to visit it then he came to a decision that because they have expensive insurance and top of the line security that he has to refuse me because of the type of firearm it is and that if any one got there hands on it people would think its real as its very intimidating looking it was a PPS43 that i was looking at getting as my first but it looks like it will never be
He apologised to me for not been able to grant me permission as he believes i have a great interest in the military and that i should keep my interest going that there are other ways of doing it besides collecting firearms but to be honest it was a right kick been turned down
What a bummer. At least he was open and genuinely took an interest in you otherwise he wouldn't have talked to you about it for 45 minutes.
There are a couple of things you can do, you could start looking into collecting militaria without the weapons part for the time being but actually make contact with him again after you have accrued some interesting items (medals, documents, etc.) and show him these with enthusiasm. It may take a while but if you keep him involved in your collecting and his own interest in militaria he may eventually come around and grant you permission for selected items.
Also, I don't want to get personal, but depending on how young you are he may also consider this as he could see you as someone who has an interest for now but may lose it and then what are you going to do with the deacts?
Or you may move to another jurisdiction/county/town at some stage in future with a different Super and could try it again.0 -
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