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Appalling comments by the ISPCA

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Shenshen wrote: »
    And what is his attitude, do you think? Cause I can't read anything about his attitude from the article, he's only talking about attitudes he encountered in people looking to adopt a dog.
    Discodog wrote: »
    From today's Sunday Times:

    "Noel Griffin, the ISPCA's chief executive said that his group's put to sleep figures were higher than other pounds because it does not give dogs to other welfare groups to rehome in Britain. He questioned how other Irish animal-welfare groups were managing to find homes for dogs that he said were of "no value" & "not the prettiest".

    "The exporting of dogs to the UK improves the statistics but I would question where these dogs are going" said Griffin.

    Griffin questioned why rescue groups in Britain, who accept Irish strays were taking "a load of old mongrels". "With all due respect to the little dogs they are not the prettiest so what is the attraction ?. Why would someone take five or six dogs to England ?. These are not thoroughbreds that have a value. When a dog has no value I think animal welfare goes out the window".

    Griffin said that the ISPCA did not give unwanted dogs to charities like the Dog's Trust".

    I think that attitude stinks from the CEO of the organisation that is supposed to look after animal welfare in this country. You don't think that all dogs have a value? Fair enough, but the CEO of the ISPCA should think so - in my opinion. As has been pointed out before, I also think he should know that thoroughbreds are horses, and dogs are pedigrees.

    None of the dogs that go to rescues in the UK have 'value' as they will all be neutered/spayed, so they cannot be used for breeding, so surely they are all the same?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Discodog wrote: »
    "Stephen Philpott CEO of the Ulster SPCA described the ISPCA's involvement in Dog Pounds as immoral .......an animal welfare group cannot kill animals in order to generate income".

    This is ludicrous! Mr. Philpott sends undercover peeps to other rescues in NI to see if they have dogs of type! He participated in several UTV programs about *devil dogs* and seems to have no problem hunting them down and destroying them. Pot - Kettle = BLACK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Shenshen wrote: »
    And what is his attitude, do you think? Cause I can't read anything about his attitude from the article, he's only talking about attitudes he encountered in people looking to adopt a dog.

    Based on his comments I doubt if he has ever met anyone looking to adopt a dog
    Shenshen wrote: »
    But I also don't see why him asking how others rehome dogs they themselves can't rehome is such an offensive thing to say?

    Why should he have to ask ?. He is the CEO of the ISPCA. He should be an expert in rehoming dogs. The fact that he has asked & made groundless allegations it is clear that he simply doesn't have a clue. Surely as a new CEO one would want to visit the rescues that rehome well & learn from them. Instead he chooses to insult them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Definition of CEO:
    The highest ranking executive in a company whose main responsibilities include developing and implementing high-level strategies, making major corporate decisions, managing the overall operations and resources of a company, and acting as the main point of communication between the board of directors and the corporate operations. The CEO will often have a position on the board, and in some cases is even the chair.

    Board of Directors ISCPA:

    ISPCA Board of Directors
    Barbara Bent (Chairperson)
    Caoimhe Howley
    Dorothy Oakley
    Marie O'Byrne
    Noel O'Donoghue
    Florence O'Sullivan
    Dorothy Walker

    Not much noise from them, is there :D?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    In the second ST article Barbara Bent has backed up Griffin's remarks. Also she doesn't see the ISPCA's involvement in dog control as a conflict of interest. This is hardly surprising as the policy was instigated years ago.

    Bent also said that to take a dog from their Pounds "a license is needed & confirmation of the final destination of where the dogs go". A rescue can't know who they will rehome to when they take a dog from the Pound. Maybe the variance in local ISPCA policy is because of ambiguity over how they interpret this rule.

    The only argument for the ISPCA getting involved in running Pounds is if they can save more dogs than the Local Authority. The ISPCA have been a total failure in this respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Discodog wrote: »
    Bent also said that to take a dog from their Pounds "a license is needed & confirmation of the final destination of where the dogs go". A rescue can't know who they will rehome to when they take a dog from the Pound. Maybe the variance in local ISPCA policy is because of ambiguity over how they interpret this rule.

    Does anyone have an idea of the regulation/law that is based on. I'm pretty sure rescues are getting dogs from pounds without purchasing licenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭Toulouse


    pH wrote: »
    Does anyone have an idea of the regulation/law that is based on. I'm pretty sure rescues are getting dogs from pounds without purchasing licenses.

    I think in the case of rescues she means general licenses which any rescue I know of would have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    The Control of Dogs Act requires everyone to have a license so you are supposed to have a license before you take a dog from the Pound. It's a bit silly as a license is supposed to be specific to the dog so, in theory, you would need to choose a dog & then get a license before going back to collect it. But as other posters have stated a rescue may well have a general license that covers all dogs in it's care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Discodog wrote: »
    The Control of Dogs Act requires everyone to have a license so you are supposed to have a license before you take a dog from the Pound. It's a bit silly as a license is supposed to be specific to the dog so, in theory, you would need to choose a dog & then get a license before going back to collect it. But as other posters have stated a rescue may well have a general license that covers all dogs in it's care.

    As the pounds are run for councils, most (if not all?) of them are able to issue a licence when you take a dog from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Every single dog I take from the Pound is signed out to EGAR and obviously I can account for every dog I take in as I rehome them in Ireland.

    However, once a dog is passed on to another rescue it is up to the other rescue to provide info where the dog has ended up, no?

    I quite often take dogs from other rescues in the UK, most of them are not interested where the dog ends up here in Ireland once he/she has been released into my care. Very few follow up on the dog.

    I don't know how it works the other way around. I do know that the dogs sent from rescues (not DT Ireland itself) to DT UK usually are divided between different DT shelters across the UK and don't all go to the same DT centre in the UK.

    And as I posted before some Irish rescues send to Italy and the Tchech Republic, Germany, Switzerland etc. Often to small rescues with no shelter but foster families.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    ISDW wrote: »
    As the pounds are run for councils, most (if not all?) of them are able to issue a licence when you take a dog from it.

    Good argument for putting the word Mongrel on your license or leaving the breed blank, so it can cover any breed :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Discodog wrote: »
    Good argument for putting the word Mongrel on your license or leaving the breed blank, so it can cover any breed :D

    Well if taking a dog from the pound, its always been my experience that they fill the licence out for that dog, so the description is up to them. But, when I took Max out of Dundalk pound, I didn't get a reminder for him the next year, because it was Louth Council who issued the licence, and I live in Sligo, so it is a very fragmented system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    So what would happen if you turned up with a license for an existing dog & said that it had died ?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Discodog wrote: »
    So what would happen if you turned up with a license for an existing dog & said that it had died ?.

    I imagine they'd offer their condolences and then charge you for a new licence for the dog you're taking out of the pound. Although I may be wrong - they may not offer their condolences:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭salsagal


    While I don't condone the ignorance shown by the CEO, nor his ambiguous comments, I have to say that on my first reading of the quote pasted in this thread, it seemed that he was hinting that dogs with little adoption "appeal" might end up being sold on to the huge animal testing companies that exist.

    As a vegan, I've discovered that a common practice is for pounds and rehoming services to sell on animals to be used in horrifically cruel and often wastefully unnecessary testing.

    I don't know if this practice is common in Ireland or the UK though.

    Just my 5cents worth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 CuireadhCrainn


    salsagal wrote: »
    ...I have to say that on my first reading of the quote pasted in this thread, it seemed that he was hinting that dogs with little adoption "appeal" might end up being sold on to the huge animal testing companies that exist.
    ...

    Just my 5cents worth.

    Having read this debate and the associated articles, I'm inclined to agree. He seems to be hinting at something he obviously cannot state specifically without proof.

    I hate the thought of animals being pts - and the statistics make it look like some of the smaller organisations have a lot more success re-homing.

    However, I wonder what would happen if the ISPCA disappeared in the morning. I'll bet all those other organisations would either be overwhelmed or their pts rates would go up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang


    Other rescues have a "no kill" policy. To the best of my knowledge, the ISPCA (in their role as pound operators) are the only Irish animal welfare organisation that euthanise healthy animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    salsagal wrote: »
    I don't know if this practice is common in Ireland or the UK though.

    Just my 5cents worth.

    Totally unheard of as far as I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Having read this debate and the associated articles, I'm inclined to agree. He seems to be hinting at something he obviously cannot state specifically without proof.

    I hate the thought of animals being pts - and the statistics make it look like some of the smaller organisations have a lot more success re-homing.

    However, I wonder what would happen if the ISPCA disappeared in the morning. I'll bet all those other organisations would either be overwhelmed or their pts rates would go up!

    I don't have any issues with the ISPCA as a welfare organisation, but I do have issues with them running council pounds, getting paid for it and then killing dogs without trying too hard to find them homes. If the ISPCA disappeared in the morning, then other organisations would take over the running of the pounds and who knows, maybe they could do a better job of it, like the people who run other pounds around the country, such as Leitrim.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    ISDW wrote: »
    I don't have any issues with the ISPCA as a welfare organisation, but I do have issues with them running council pounds, getting paid for it and then killing dogs without trying too hard to find them homes.

    But doesn't this question their real desire to improve animal welfare ?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Discodog wrote: »
    But doesn't this question their real desire to improve animal welfare ?.

    Yes, you're absolutely right, but their inspectors on the whole do a brilliant job, probably despite the management of the organisation rather than because of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    They don't just pts dogs in pounds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Dolliepop


    So he was a banker before he became the CEO of the ISPCA, I really believe the ISPCA is all about money these days, they don't really care about the animals. And its a shame that because of this the other SPCA's all over the country get bad publicity when really they have NOTHING to do with the ISPCA.

    GRR!


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 aidan203


    "After a period of investigation, last week ISPCA Inspector Lisa O’Donovan and the Gardai closed in on a self-styled animal rescue centre in County Cork. Twenty seven dogs of various breeds were removed from the property while three dead dogs were also found on site."

    Full story: http://ispca.newsweaver.co.uk/newsletter/c3cmeuwrl04x4curduxs8m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Interesting use of the word "rescue" in the article & no mention of the name. Convenient "validates" Griffin's comments.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Shanao


    Discodog wrote: »
    Interesting use of the word "rescue" in the article & no mention of the name. Convenient "validates" Griffin's comments.

    Well if the name of the rescue had been mentioned, surely that could have compromised any conviction if they take them to court? Which they hopefully will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Well we will have to see what develops but this "incident", which may or may not be related, was referred to as a "dog breeding facility"

    http://www.corkindependent.com/local-news/local-news/ispca-remove-dogs-from-inadequate-breeding-facility-in-cork/

    There is an obvious concern that the PR dept may start using the word "rescue" for incidents that may not be in any way linked to bona fide rescues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Candc


    Just to add my two cents worth - the Laois Dog Pound has now started a facebook campaign to rehome any dogs they can. It's how I got my dog and from what I see on FB every day it is very successful. So not all ISPCA pounds are the same and some are trying their best to rehome as many dogs as they.

    My Dog is a large dog and I literally got her out a few hours before they were due to put her to sleep as no one wanted to take her - and only for FB would never have known about her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    I know the name of the person raided by the ISPCA and trust me, she is no more a rescue than I am Irish. She is a mad woman and whoever gave her animals should have their heads examined.

    She was a member on the EGAR FB and she offered for nearly every dog I put up for rehoming to *take it off my hands*. Utter nutter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Candc wrote: »
    Just to add my two cents worth - the Laois Dog Pound has now started a facebook campaign to rehome any dogs they can. It's how I got my dog and from what I see on FB every day it is very successful. So not all ISPCA pounds are the same and some are trying their best to rehome as many dogs as they.

    My Dog is a large dog and I literally got her out a few hours before they were due to put her to sleep as no one wanted to take her - and only for FB would never have known about her.

    Hi CandC, I posted about Laois Pound on this thread can't remember which page it was. What a difference ONE person can make ;).

    She contacted me about a Boxer at the pound with growths in his mouth and he came here and we are awaiting biopsy results.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Candc


    I thought I'd read all of thread must have missed that post because I was looking to see if someone had mentioned the Laois pound.

    I saw you had taken the Boxer on the FB page - poor guy. Glad that he is being looked after though. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭mosi


    The 2010 statistics have been published. Still a poor showing for the ISPCA
    http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/StatisticsandRegularPublications/DogControl/
    The greyhound stats are particularly shocking - 100% pts in some pounds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    But it is good to actually see the Greyhound figures for the first time. After all the IGB would have us believe that none end up in Pounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Compiled info for 2010, for anyone who's interested:

    All Dogs:
    157415.jpg

    Greyhounds only:
    157416.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 aidan203


    http://www.madra.ie/


    MADRA is a volunteer-run organisation under the management of registered dog trainers Marina Fiddler and Tara Nic Dhiarmada.
    We are dedicated to finding new homes for unwanted, neglected, abused and abandoned dogs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 nissan14


    The ispca are useless I took on a stray dog as a pup with the agreement that they get her spaded at six months I said I would make a donation (I was on social welfare)
    when the time came I rang them and I explained the situation to them. She told me on the phone that it would be 70 euro I asked could I pay that of weekly she said yes
    then the day came i rang and was told it was postponed till the next week I told them i would be out of the country visiting relations she then turned around a said in a nasty tone if ya can afford to go to England you can afford to pay it all up front 190 euro they wanted
    i rang a private vet and the quoted 160 so I rang about 10 more and they did not even come close to that
    i got my dog done in the end for 20 euro (twenty euro )
    Thanks to my local vet
    The ISPCA is a Waste of time !!
    look after your pets please :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    nissan14 wrote: »
    The ispca are useless I took on a stray dog as a pup with the agreement that they get her spaded at six months I said I would make a donation (I was on social welfare)
    when the time came I rang them and I explained the situation to them. She told me on the phone that it would be 70 euro I asked could I pay that of weekly she said yes
    then the day came i rang and was told it was postponed till the next week I told them i would be out of the country visiting relations she then turned around a said in a nasty tone if ya can afford to go to England you can afford to pay it all up front 190 euro they wanted
    i rang a private vet and the quoted 160 so I rang about 10 more and they did not even come close to that
    i got my dog done in the end for 20 euro (twenty euro )
    Thanks to my local vet
    The ISPCA is a Waste of time !!
    look after your pets please :)

    You got the dog spayed for €20 because the vets would have got the rest from the Dogs Trust, it is a scheme that they run. So it was a charity that paid for you to get the dog spayed, just a different one, not the ISPCA, but Dogs Trust.

    Sorry, but I can partly understand the ISPCA person's attitude, you got a pup and agreed to pay towards the cost of spaying it when the time came. Then you ask if you can pay it off weekly, but yet go off on holiday. Both organisations can only do the spaying and neutering at discounted rates because members of the public make donations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 nissan14


    ISDW wrote: »
    You got the dog spayed for €20 because the vets would have got the rest from the Dogs Trust, it is a scheme that they run. So it was a charity that paid for you to get the dog spayed, just a different one, not the ISPCA, but Dogs Trust.

    Sorry, but I can partly understand the ISPCA person's attitude, you got a pup and agreed to pay towards the cost of spaying it when the time came. Then you ask if you can pay it off weekly, but yet go off on holiday. Both organisations can only do the spaying and neutering at discounted rates because members of the public make donations.

    Yes I understand those of you are quick to judge, The holiday was a gift and i explained that to the ISPCA plus the ISPCA that the dogs trust system was not running any more explain that?? That is a joke I they looked for a payment that was over the top
    so what I go to see family at Christmas as a gift and they punish me and go back on a deal that is stupid and unfair i would not have taken that dog otherwise I wanted a boy dog pup but she persuaded me to take the bitch :confused: please reply :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    nissan14 wrote: »
    Yes I understand those of you are quick to judge, The holiday was a gift and i explained that to the ISPCA plus the ISPCA that the dogs trust system was not running any more explain that?? That is a joke I they looked for a payment that was over the top
    so what I go to see family at Christmas as a gift and they punish me and go back on a deal that is stupid and unfair i would not have taken that dog otherwise I wanted a boy dog pup but she persuaded me to take the bitch :confused: please reply :D

    I'll reply alright.

    You are now saying something that you didn't say in your original post, and that I'm guessing you didn't say to the ISPCA woman.

    The Dogs Trust scheme has been cut back drastically, each vet practice now only gets one book of vouchers (if that), they usually come out around March each year and are gone very quickly. You were obviously incredibly lucky to find a vet that still had some at Christmas, probably the only vet in the country to do so, so well done.

    So now you are saying that you were going to the UK at Christmas, and the ISPCA wanted to spay your dog during Christmas week? Wow, now thats service.

    I'm not quick to judge at all, but I don't like when people take advantage of charities that other people donate to, people who are probably in the same situation as you, but want to do their bit. From what you've posted, it appears that you didn't give them a donation when you got your pup, but agreed to help towards the cost of spaying? Which you then didn't do? I don't think it was them that went back on the deal was it? They are a charity, not a business, do you not understand that? They didn't breed your puppy, they took her, or her mother whilst in pup, into one of their centres, fed them, probably vaccinated them etc, the money that cost them didn't come out of thin air.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 nissan14


    ISDW wrote: »
    I'll reply alright.

    You are now saying something that you didn't say in your original post, and that I'm guessing you didn't say to the ISPCA woman.

    The Dogs Trust scheme has been cut back drastically, each vet practice now only gets one book of vouchers (if that), they usually come out around March each year and are gone very quickly. You were obviously incredibly lucky to find a vet that still had some at Christmas, probably the only vet in the country to do so, so well done.

    So now you are saying that you were going to the UK at Christmas, and the ISPCA wanted to spay your dog during Christmas week? Wow, now thats service.

    I'm not quick to judge at all, but I don't like when people take advantage of charities that other people donate to, people who are probably in the same situation as you, but want to do their bit. From what you've posted, it appears that you didn't give them a donation when you got your pup, but agreed to help towards the cost of spaying? Which you then didn't do? I don't think it was them that went back on the deal was it? They are a charity, not a business, do you not understand that? They didn't breed your puppy, they took her, or her mother whilst in pup, into one of their centres, fed them, probably vaccinated them etc, the money that cost them didn't come out of thin air.
    i did tell the Ispca woman about the holiday and she suggested Xmas week not me and she insisted on it i was willing to wait till after
    I did donate to the Ispca but not any more I Helped any chance I could get and I yes I PAYED for the vaccinations myself and since when does it cost 190 to vaccinate a pup of 6 months answer that


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Shanao


    nissan14 wrote: »
    i did tell the Ispca woman about the holiday and she suggested Xmas week not me and she insisted on it i was willing to wait till after
    I did donate to the Ispca but not any more I Helped any chance I could get and I yes I PAYED for the vaccinations myself and since when dose it cost 190 to vaccinate a pup of 6 months answer that

    I'm going to assume you mean neuter. It cost me 140 to neuter my male dog, will be considerably more to neuter a female so yeah, would easily cost 190euro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 nissan14


    Shanao wrote: »
    I'm going to assume you mean neuter. It cost me 140 to neuter my male dog, will be considerably more to neuter a female so yeah, would easily cost 190euro.
    what WEIGHT was your dog
    this contributes allot to the cost the heavier the dog etc.
    i was quoted not more than 165 euro for my bitch who was probably a little over 20 kg at 6 months old and 140 to do a male that is a high price did ya look around at all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    nissan14 wrote: »
    i did tell the Ispca woman about the holiday and she suggested Xmas week not me and she insisted on it i was willing to wait till after
    I did donate to the Ispca but not any more I Helped any chance I could get and I yes I PAYED for the vaccinations myself and since when does it cost 190 to vaccinate a pup of 6 months answer that

    Gosh, you are an aggressive person aren't you, I can understand why the phone conversation with the woman from the ISPCA might have got a bit heated if you were talking to her the way you are typing here.

    As you asked so nicely though, I will answer that:D It depends on the weight of the dog as to the cost of spaying, I'll assume as Shanao did that you meant spay, and not vaccinate? If you did mean vaccinate, then I don't understand your question.

    You need to remember what you say in your posts, as you are contradicting yourself, in your first post you said you would make a donation, nowhere did you say you have made a donation.

    nissan14 wrote: »
    The ispca are useless I took on a stray dog as a pup with the agreement that they get her spaded at six months I said I would make a donation (I was on social welfare)
    when the time came I rang them and I explained the situation to them. She told me on the phone that it would be 70 euro I asked could I pay that of weekly she said yes
    then the day came i rang and was told it was postponed till the next week I told them i would be out of the country visiting relations she then turned around a said in a nasty tone if ya can afford to go to England you can afford to pay it all up front 190 euro they wanted
    i rang a private vet and the quoted 160 so I rang about 10 more and they did not even come close to that
    i got my dog done in the end for 20 euro (twenty euro )
    Thanks to my local vet
    The ISPCA is a Waste of time !!
    look after your pets please :)

    I won't be as rude as you, you can answer if you like, but you don't have to if you don't want to:)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Shanao


    nissan14 wrote: »
    what WEIGHT was your dog
    this contributes allot to the cost the heavier the dog etc.
    i was quoted not more than 165 euro for my bitch who was probably a little over 20 kg at 6 months old and 140 to do a male that is a high price did ya look around at all

    No i didn't look around because I'm an idiot:rolleyes: Yes i looked around and got the same price from all of my local vets. I chose to go with my vet who I trusted and I had saved up for it (even if it meant our next grocery shops for a while were done in aldi). He was coming up 40kgs, but as I said, its considerably more to get a female dog neutered as it is a much more invasive operation. My female is 44kgs, I'm expecting it to cost over two hundred to spay her. You're talking an operation, anasthetic, antibiotics, pain killers, and after care and it does add up.

    The ISPCA are completely swamped with cruelty cases and dumped/stray animals in the past year, they need all the help they can get. You have to look at it from their perspective too; I'm willing to bet they constantly have people trying to get discounted rates for neutering/ops etc even though those people can afford it. I'm certainly not saying that's the case with you, but with the situation Ireland is in, a lot of people will try anything to get out of spending money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    My dog is 5kg and it cost €187 to have her neutered about 2 weeks ago. And i only earn about €20 more than the dole a week, also had her chipped at the same time. I didnt ask anyone to pay for it, I saved for months and got it done myself. You got something for next to nothing, stop complaining.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 nissan14


    sambuka41 wrote: »
    My dog is 5kg and it cost €187 to have her neutered about 2 weeks ago. And i only earn about €20 more than the dole a week, also had her chipped at the same time. I didnt ask anyone to pay for it, I saved for months and got it done myself. You got something for next to nothing, stop complaining.

    that included the chip


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    sambuka41 wrote: »
    My dog is 5kg and it cost €187 to have her neutered about 2 weeks ago. And i only earn about €20 more than the dole a week, also had her chipped at the same time. I didnt ask anyone to pay for it, I saved for months and got it done myself. You got something for next to nothing, stop complaining.

    that included the chip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    nissan14 wrote: »
    that included the chip

    NO the chip was an extra €30, it was half price, should have been €60 but because she already had the anesthetic it was half (its the most expensive part). The €187 was just for the spaying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 nissan14


    ISDW wrote: »
    Gosh, you are an aggressive person aren't you, I can understand why the phone conversation with the woman from the ISPCA might have got a bit heated if you were talking to her the way you are typing here.

    As you asked so nicely though, I will answer that:D It depends on the weight of the dog as to the cost of spaying, I'll assume as Shanao did that you meant spay, and not vaccinate? If you did mean vaccinate, then I don't understand your question.

    You need to remember what you say in your posts, as you are contradicting yourself, in your first post you said you would make a donation, nowhere did you say you have made a donation.




    I won't be as rude as you, you can answer if you like, but you don't have to if you don't want to:)

    i have made donations in the past before i got the dog or even it was an agreement when i took on the pupppy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 nissan14


    sambuka41 wrote: »
    NO the chip was an extra €30, it was half price, should have been €60 but because she already had the anesthetic it was half (its the most expensive part). The €187 was just for the spaying.

    that was expensive sorry my vet is 140 for a lab bitch


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